How many of you carry a gun as part of your cycling equipment?



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JCarlos61 said:
because our constitution brings so much rigths to the individual.
That problem must be more world-wide that I thought. Here the criminal has full experience of his 'rights' because he goes to court many times and knows how to play the system. The good citizen who never goes to court is a beginner and falls into many traps if he ever goes to court. In a self defense situation, the criminal and the victim are both prosecuted equally, previous convictions are not allowed to be seen, so the criminal has a clear advantage. We are just too civilized for our own good.
 

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Akadat said:
That problem must be more world-wide that I thought. Here the criminal has full experience of his 'rights' because he goes to court many times and knows how to play the system. The good citizen who never goes to court is a beginner and falls into many traps if he ever goes to court. In a self defense situation, the criminal and the victim are both prosecuted equally, previous convictions are not allowed to be seen, so the criminal has a clear advantage. We are just too civilized for our own good.
You got the point ! Im with you 200% on this my friend . Where do you live ? I think you are in U.S. because you know how the system works very well.:)
 

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4. I believe it was wrong for America's founding fathers to use guns to overthrow the rule of the British. We should have stayed a colony.
Funny how Gandhi managed it without guns, isn't it.
 

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I have only 2 comments to make in relation to this thread-

1) I am never visiting america again. If this is a representative cross-section of society then you have put me off America for life. Thank God all Americans are 1000 miles from me! :D

Seriously though, if you're country is so anarchic that you need to carry a conclealed weapon on a bike ride in your local area, perhaps you need to pay slightly higher taxes so the police can do the job that they are TRAINED to do. I know this takes away part of your freedom, as any tax is obviously an incursion on liberty, but maybe it's worth paying so that you can walk around and go to the cinema without feeling the need to be armed.


2) There is violence in the UK as people have said, obivously there is violence! People are evil (original sin etc.. ) and will commit evil acts. However in the UK it was on the national news the other day that a person was shot dead. 1 mans gun death hit the national news, and although the UK isn't as big as America, we're still a country of some 60,000,000. This gives an indication of how little gun violence we have. If you allow every person to bear arms you will have MORE gun crime not LESS. We have stabbings etc in the UK, but to kill some1 with a knife is a heck of a lot harder to do than a gun kill. You don't get a 30 year old wacko walking into a school and stabbing a bunch of children to death! Although knives are still dangerous they are nowhere near as dangerous. The UK shows that in a country where you limit the ownership of guns to very few people, your country benefits! And yes we are just as free as you, more free in fact as we have an entitlement to free healthcare. If you die of cancer you won't bankrupt your family in the process!

I also resent the implication that the bible holds a position on this issue. Being brought up in a chrsitian home I wholeheartedly object to the American way of linking the church and state and political issues. The new testament is about spreading the word of God, I don't quite see how that squares with gun culture. But neither does it reject it! I'm just saying that it doesn't hold an opinion on this. Any attempt to use God to answer this kind of issue is wrong! It's equivalent to trying to use the bible to establish which bike you should buy! If you base your whole life around God then it isn't really your job to interfere with decisions of such minor importance as this, when much larger issues such as the anarchy in Iraq and the saving of people is at stake! Focus on the important things like sending missionaries to countries that need them- e.g Iraq, Iran, Saudi Arabia and improving the quailities of the church at home! I.e Lose the american flags in church- God never had an American flag! Also it could be offensive to a Muslim or who shows interest but is put off by signs of nationalism. They might never show an interest in christainty again because of overt acts of nationalism!



BTW all gun nuts you will find plenty of support here-

www.conservapedia.com
 

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Unfortunately I just can't fit my Sawed off Shotgun in my spandex I already carry one weapon in there. Really isn't room for another:)
 

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M22CY said:
wow... I've never thought of carrying ony of my handguns while cycling... never even entered my mind! I don't want a handgun on me while I am out for a nice ride.. it's big, bulky and hard to conceal with bike clothing.
***** bags are great for that! Also my hidration pack is good!
 

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Joshua.Arnold said:
I have only 2 comments to make in relation to this thread-

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Seriously though, if you're country is so anarchic that you need to carry a conclealed weapon on a bike ride in your local area, perhaps you need to pay slightly higher taxes so the police can do the job that they are TRAINED to do. I know this takes away part of your freedom, as any tax is obviously an incursion on liberty, but maybe it's worth paying so that you can walk around and go to the cinema without feeling the need to be armed.

Yeah! that way we will have millions of cops! One for every person! We respect your desire to become another one on statistics.I will not be one ,or my loved ones if Im present that will not happen.


2) There is violence in the UK as people have said, obivously there is violence! People are evil (original sin etc.. ) and will commit evil acts. However in the UK it was on the national news the other day that a person was shot dead. 1 mans gun death hit the national news, and although the UK isn't as big as America, we're still a country of some 60,000,000. This gives an indication of how little gun violence we have. If you allow every person to bear arms you will have MORE gun crime not LESS. We have stabbings etc in the UK, but to kill some1 with a knife is a heck of a lot harder to do than a gun kill. You don't get a 30 year old wacko walking into a school and stabbing a bunch of children to death! Although knives are still dangerous they are nowhere near as dangerous. The UK shows that in a country where you limit the ownership of guns to very few people, your country benefits! And yes we are just as free as you, more free in fact as we have an entitlement to free healthcare. If you die of cancer you won't bankrupt your family in the process!

An island w/o neithbors sharing borders! Just sea Around .But if uk Shared borders with other countries it will be diferent .How many ethnics groups Uk have , a few I think.Lots of cultures means people not thinking the same way. And freedom yeah I feel so free that I can not need to hide my location to others on this board when I post.
I also resent the implication that the bible holds a position on this issue. Being brought up in a chrsitian home I wholeheartedly object to the American way of linking the church and state and political issues. The new testament is about spreading the word of God, I don't quite see how that squares with gun culture. But neither does it reject it! I'm just saying that it doesn't hold an opinion on this. Any attempt to use God to answer this kind of issue is wrong! It's equivalent to trying to use the bible to establish which bike you should buy! If you base your whole life around God then it isn't really your job to interfere with decisions of such minor importance as this, when much larger issues such as the anarchy in Iraq and the saving of people is at stake! Focus on the important things like sending missionaries to countries that need them- e.g Iraq, Iran, Saudi Arabia and improving the quailities of the church at home!
Go with your holy book to Iraq and tell them that your faith is the one to believe and Im sure you will be wishing an Ak-47 with lots of ammo and a bulletproof vest!

I.e Lose the american flags in church- God never had an American flag! Also it could be offensive to a Muslim or who shows interest but is put off by signs of nationalism. They might never show an interest in christainty again because of overt acts of nationalism! Again diferent cultures few times agree with their traditions. Well I think that you agree with those people that say this is a sacred war lets go and kill everybody including yourself and others in name of their god. and you in the middle oy the situation would not take a firearm thats near to you (not yours of course) and defend yourself and your family??? Just my 2 cents:D :D :D :D



BTW all gun nuts you will find plenty of support here-

www.conservapedia.com
thats all wow!
 

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what does ghandi have to do with our right to keep 'n bear?

if he lived near here both he and bhudda would be packin'.



jowie said:
Funny how Gandhi managed it without guns, isn't it.
 

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JCarlos61 said:
I think you are in U.S. because you know how the system works very well.:)
I live in Australia, but you are correct because Australia is a U.S. protectorate.

With our current liberal attitudes towards criminals, ie they deserve lenient treatment because they are deprived/abused/poor/drug addicts etc etc, crime will continue to rise despite government claims to the contrary. Right now criminals are laughing and the 'civil rights' people are dupes who can't tell the diffenence between criminals and non-criminals.

The day will come when we have to take tough action just as the U.S. has done; three strikes and you're out, mandatory sentences, but not much hope for CCW. Too many people are simply horrified by guns and cannot see any reason why a non-criminal would ever need one.
 

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jowie said:
Funny how Gandhi managed it without guns, isn't it.
Gandi remains in our minds because the people of the West were astounded by a non-violent policy. What we forget is the mutiny by the Indian navy and army 14 years after Gandi, that finally forced the British to quit India.

The non-violent leaders including Gandi and a huge number of non-violent participants were imprisoned during those 14 years.
 

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Akadat said:
I live in Australia, but you are correct because Australia is a U.S. protectorate.
Is Australia the 53rd or 54th state? I always forget.

I think it goes:
51. Puerto Rico
52. Canada
53. Britain
54. Australia

Now on to New Zealand. That's some prime land there. We need that. With the gun restrictions it should go better than Iraq--hopefully.

:D
 

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Joshua.Arnold said:
Lose the american flags in church- God never had an American flag! Also it could be offensive to a Muslim or who shows interest but is put off by signs of nationalism. They might never show an interest in christainty again because of overt acts of nationalism!
I once worked for an English firm SW of London and spent about 1/3 time in the Farnham area. When English colleagues would comes to the US, we would take them to football/baseball/hockey games, Indepnedence Day fireworks and such public events. They were, to a one, singularly impressed at how many people could be gathered in one place - up to 10s of thousands - who all stand, cover their heart with palm, and maybe even sing along as our national anthem was played. Yes, we still wave the flag in the US - maybe a little more during the Gulf War and since 9-11, but we alway have. From Kindergarten onwards, children stand and say the pledge.

I talk with a lot of immigrants who come to the USA for better jobs, conditions, etc., and they often speak of wanting to see more of select parts of what they are used to in their home-countires, be they socialist, total or near dictatorships, etc. I enjoy talking with them, but always ask how much of the US can we change before they might find it's not the country they want to be a citizen of anymore? I have a pile of little Declaration of Independence/US Constitution booklets that I hand out and ask them to redline with a pen for discussion. We usually have very good discussions, as it often becomes clear that a lot what they want isn't prohibited - we just are not doing it now by choice. The notion that the government will not force a change on the people, but the people will force a change on the government - is an eye-opener.

Our hardest struggle has been to live up to the words of our Declaration of Independence and US Constitution. We have slowly evolved our practical use of the term "people" to include indentured servants, so-called freed-men, women, Irish, Chinese, Italians, Japanese & Germans (during & following World Wars), Africans & African Americans (and decendents of slaves) and now illegal 'aliens' working in the US (primarily Mexicans and Latin Americans). We struggle with differentiation of church and state, but only to the degree that we work to keep church out of state. If churches want to adopt state to different degrees, by displaying flags, etc., those are the decisions of independent congregations of people - not government imposing on church. We struggle with how to deal with religion where church and state are often inseperable - Islam comes to the front of the list.

So if England is heading the way that you and your countrymen like - keep it up. If you do decide to get over to the states and attend a church - go ahead and ask about the flags.
 

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jowie said:
Funny how Gandhi managed it without guns, isn't it.
True enough, for awhile; but that was then, this is now and a really screwed-up world. Today, Mahatma would be deader-than-your-sprocket in a couple months, likely whacked by a mad religious nut case! You do know how he changed lanes, right? Bullet in head!

I read most notes,and some are really funny. Interesting, the number of comments; too bad we don't get as riled up about current government tracks. Anyway, choice is to prevent something or not. It is a personal decision and one sure would know if he or she did the right thing when that moment arrives. To some, an easy choice, life is good; for others maybe not for long; well, that is it, isn't it?

Great reading ...
 

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cbjesseeNH said:
So if England is heading the way that you and your countrymen like - keep it up. If you do decide to get over to the states and attend a church - go ahead and ask about the flags.
Now the dude who wants to carry guns so he can shoot at children throwing rocks is definitely a nut, but I was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt. But when people start talking about guns and god and flags, it sets my nut meter off, big time.
 

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I live in Texas. The people here are crazy. I mean it.

In November, I was assaulted while riding my bike. Last week I was walking my dogs. They were both on leash. A pick up truck came up the dirt road I was walking my dogs on. I moved the dogs and myself off the road to allow the truck to pass. The truck stopped. The driver got out, charged at me, and told him he didn't want me walking my dogs there because, and these are the exact words he screamed, "You should acknowledge me when I drive by! He was in a rage because I didn't acknowledge him. This man is an upstanding member of the local community. I am white, I dress like a farmer, and I am middle aged(52). I look respectable.Nothing about me should have triggered his biases. I called the police as soon as I got home.

I bought my first shotgun for home protection last year. Now I'm thinking I need a handgun to carry at all times. I have never had these things happen before in my life, and I lived for decades in the LA/San Diego metro plex, and I grew up in a midwestern state.

I live in Texas. The people here are crazy. I mean it.
 

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derby said:
I live in Texas. The people here are crazy. I mean it.
Some say the States are United because we can't get away from one another. - at least the 48 of them.

Others say there's only 3 states - California, Texas and the Rest. Some Texans say the Republic of Texas is still trying out this statehood thing and it ain't looking good...
 

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Bro Deal said:
But when people start talking about guns and god and flags, it sets my nut meter off, big time.
Maybe guns and god, god and flags, flags and god, but never all three at once...that would be extreme.:D

But then again, the middle is defined by the extremes - lose either extreme and the middle starts looking far left/right. As long as there's a bell-curve, the extremes may make noise but don't count for many votes.

So I look to see what the Guns, God and The Flag people, and the Peace, Cosmic Love and We're-All-One-Nation-of-Earth people are saying so I can set my nuttso regulator far enough away from them.

So nuts serve a purpose.
 

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Dead link.
At least you haven't quoted an April Fools Day joke this time.
That was a classic.
More please.
:D :D :D
Since this is a subject that the British don't take lightly provide evidence other than the date that this was an april fools joke.

Here is another link to show you how well gun control is working:
www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article1499060.ece
Criminals love people like you that give them a safer working enviroment where they don't have to worry about suffering serious consequences for thier actions so they can work with impunity.
 

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40 Reasons to Ban Guns

1. Banning guns works, which is why New York, DC, Detroit & Chicago cops need guns.

2. Washington DC's low murder rate of 69 per 100,000 is due to strict gun control, and Indianapolis' high murder rate of 9 per 100,000 is due to the lack of gun control.

3. Statistics showing high murder rates justify gun control but statistics showing increasing murder rates after gun control are "just statistics."

4. The Brady Bill and the Assault Weapons Ban, both of which went into effect in 1994 are responsible for the decrease in violent crime rates,which have been declining since 1991.

5. We must get rid of guns because a deranged lunatic may go on a shooting spree at any time and anyone who would own a gun out of fear of such a lunatic is paranoid.

6. The more helpless you are the safer you are from criminals.

7. An intruder will be incapacitated by tear gas or oven spray, but if shot with a .357 Magnum will get angry and kill you.

8. A woman raped and strangled is morally superior to a woman with a smoking gun and a dead rapist at her feet.

9. When confronted by violent criminals, you should "put up no defense - give them what they want, or run" (Handgun Control Inc. Chairman Pete Shields, Guns Don't Die - People Do, 1981, p. 125).

10. The New England Journal of Medicine is filled with expert advice about guns; just like Guns & Ammo has some excellent treatises on heart surgery.

11. One should consult an automotive engineer for safer seat belts, a civil engineer for a better bridge, a surgeon for internal medicine, a computer programmer for hard drive problems, and Sarah Brady for firearms expertise.

12. The 2nd Amendment, ratified in 1787, refers to the National Guard, which was created 130 years later, in 1917.

13. The National Guard, federally funded, with bases on federal land, using federally-owned weapons, vehicles, buildings and uniforms, punishing trespassers under federal law, is a "state" militia.

14. These phrases: "right of the people peaceably to assemble," "right of the people to be secure in their homes," "enumerations herein of certain rights shall not be construed to disparage others retained by the people," and "The powers not delegated herein are reserved to the states respectively, and to the people" all refer to individuals, but "the right of the people to keep and bear arms" refers to the state.

15. "The Constitution is strong and will never change." But we should ban and seize all guns thereby violating the 2nd, 4th, and 5th Amendments to that Constitution.

16. Rifles and handguns aren't necessary to national defense! Of course, the army has hundreds of thousands of them.

17. Private citizens shouldn't have handguns, because they aren't "military weapons'', but private citizens shouldn't have "assault rifles'', because they are military weapons.

18. In spite of waiting periods, background checks, fingerprinting,government forms, etc., guns today are too readily available, which is responsible for recent school shootings. In the 1940's, 1950's and 1960's,anyone could buy guns at hardware stores, army surplus stores, gas stations,variety stores, Sears mail order, no waiting, no background check, no fingerprints, no government forms and there were no school shootings.

19. The NRA's attempt to run a "don't touch" campaign about kids handling guns is propaganda, but the anti-gun lobby's attempt to run a "don't touch" campaign is responsible social activity.

20. Guns are so complex that special training is necessary to use them properly, and so simple to use that they make murder easy.

21. A handgun, with up to 4 controls, is far too complex for the typical adult to learn to use, as opposed to an automobile that only has 20.

22. Women are just as intelligent and capable as men but a woman with a gun is "an accident waiting to happen" and gun makers' advertisements aimed at women are "preying on their fears."

23. Ordinary people in the presence of guns turn into slaughtering butchers but revert to normal when the weapon is removed.

24. Guns cause violence, which is why there are so many mass killings at gun shows.

25. A majority of the population supports gun control, just like a majority of the population supported owning slaves.

26. Any self-loading small arm can legitimately be considered to be a "weapon of mass destruction" or an "assault weapon."

27. Most people can't be trusted, so we should have laws against guns, which most people will abide by because they can be trusted.

28. The right of Internet pornographers to exist cannot be questioned because it is constitutionally protected by the Bill of Rights, but the use of handguns for self defense is not really protected by the Bill of Rights.

29. Free speech entitles one to own newspapers, transmitters, computers, and typewriters, but self- defense only justifies bare hands.

30. The ACLU is good because it uncompromisingly defends certain parts of the Constitution, and the NRA is bad, because it defends other parts of the Constitution.

31. Charlton Heston, a movie actor as president of the NRA is a cheap lunatic who should be ignored, but Michael Douglas, a movie actor as a representative of Handgun Control, Inc. is an ambassador for peace who is entitled to an audience at the UN arms control summit.

32. Police operate with backup within groups, which is why they need larger capacity pistol magazines than do "civilians" who must face criminals alone and therefore need less ammunition.

33. We should ban "Saturday Night Specials" and other inexpensive guns because it's not fair that poor people have access to guns too.

34. Police officers have some special Jedi-like mastery over handguns that private citizens can never hope to obtain.

35. Private citizens don't need a gun for self- protection because the police are there to protect them even though the Supreme Court says the police are not responsible for their protection.

36. Citizens don't need to carry a gun for personal protection but police chiefs, who are desk-bound administrators who work in a building filled with cops, need a gun.

37. "Assault weapons" have no purpose other than to kill large numbers of people. The police need assault weapons. You do not.

38. When Microsoft pressures its distributors to give Microsoft preferential promotion, that's bad; but when the Federal government pressures cities to buy guns only from Smith & Wesson, that's good.

39. Trigger locks do not interfere with the ability to use a gun for defensive purposes, which is why you see police officers with one on their duty weapon.

40. Handgun Control, Inc., says they want to "keep guns out of the wrong hands." Guess what? You have the wrong hands.
 

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Except for that one time...


missing said:
40 Reasons to Ban Guns

1. Banning guns works, which is why New York, DC, Detroit & Chicago cops need guns.

2. Washington DC's low murder rate of 69 per 100,000 is due to strict gun control, and Indianapolis' high murder rate of 9 per 100,000 is due to the lack of gun control.

3. Statistics showing high murder rates justify gun control but statistics showing increasing murder rates after gun control are "just statistics."

4. The Brady Bill and the Assault Weapons Ban, both of which went into effect in 1994 are responsible for the decrease in violent crime rates,which have been declining since 1991.

5. We must get rid of guns because a deranged lunatic may go on a shooting spree at any time and anyone who would own a gun out of fear of such a lunatic is paranoid.

6. The more helpless you are the safer you are from criminals.

7. An intruder will be incapacitated by tear gas or oven spray, but if shot with a .357 Magnum will get angry and kill you.

8. A woman raped and strangled is morally superior to a woman with a smoking gun and a dead rapist at her feet.

9. When confronted by violent criminals, you should "put up no defense - give them what they want, or run" (Handgun Control Inc. Chairman Pete Shields, Guns Don't Die - People Do, 1981, p. 125).

10. The New England Journal of Medicine is filled with expert advice about guns; just like Guns & Ammo has some excellent treatises on heart surgery.

11. One should consult an automotive engineer for safer seat belts, a civil engineer for a better bridge, a surgeon for internal medicine, a computer programmer for hard drive problems, and Sarah Brady for firearms expertise.

12. The 2nd Amendment, ratified in 1787, refers to the National Guard, which was created 130 years later, in 1917.

13. The National Guard, federally funded, with bases on federal land, using federally-owned weapons, vehicles, buildings and uniforms, punishing trespassers under federal law, is a "state" militia.

14. These phrases: "right of the people peaceably to assemble," "right of the people to be secure in their homes," "enumerations herein of certain rights shall not be construed to disparage others retained by the people," and "The powers not delegated herein are reserved to the states respectively, and to the people" all refer to individuals, but "the right of the people to keep and bear arms" refers to the state.

15. "The Constitution is strong and will never change." But we should ban and seize all guns thereby violating the 2nd, 4th, and 5th Amendments to that Constitution.

16. Rifles and handguns aren't necessary to national defense! Of course, the army has hundreds of thousands of them.

17. Private citizens shouldn't have handguns, because they aren't "military weapons'', but private citizens shouldn't have "assault rifles'', because they are military weapons.

18. In spite of waiting periods, background checks, fingerprinting,government forms, etc., guns today are too readily available, which is responsible for recent school shootings. In the 1940's, 1950's and 1960's,anyone could buy guns at hardware stores, army surplus stores, gas stations,variety stores, Sears mail order, no waiting, no background check, no fingerprints, no government forms and there were no school shootings.

19. The NRA's attempt to run a "don't touch" campaign about kids handling guns is propaganda, but the anti-gun lobby's attempt to run a "don't touch" campaign is responsible social activity.

20. Guns are so complex that special training is necessary to use them properly, and so simple to use that they make murder easy.

21. A handgun, with up to 4 controls, is far too complex for the typical adult to learn to use, as opposed to an automobile that only has 20.

22. Women are just as intelligent and capable as men but a woman with a gun is "an accident waiting to happen" and gun makers' advertisements aimed at women are "preying on their fears."

23. Ordinary people in the presence of guns turn into slaughtering butchers but revert to normal when the weapon is removed.

24. Guns cause violence, which is why there are so many mass killings at gun shows.

25. A majority of the population supports gun control, just like a majority of the population supported owning slaves.

26. Any self-loading small arm can legitimately be considered to be a "weapon of mass destruction" or an "assault weapon."

27. Most people can't be trusted, so we should have laws against guns, which most people will abide by because they can be trusted.

28. The right of Internet pornographers to exist cannot be questioned because it is constitutionally protected by the Bill of Rights, but the use of handguns for self defense is not really protected by the Bill of Rights.

29. Free speech entitles one to own newspapers, transmitters, computers, and typewriters, but self- defense only justifies bare hands.

30. The ACLU is good because it uncompromisingly defends certain parts of the Constitution, and the NRA is bad, because it defends other parts of the Constitution.

31. Charlton Heston, a movie actor as president of the NRA is a cheap lunatic who should be ignored, but Michael Douglas, a movie actor as a representative of Handgun Control, Inc. is an ambassador for peace who is entitled to an audience at the UN arms control summit.

32. Police operate with backup within groups, which is why they need larger capacity pistol magazines than do "civilians" who must face criminals alone and therefore need less ammunition.

33. We should ban "Saturday Night Specials" and other inexpensive guns because it's not fair that poor people have access to guns too.

34. Police officers have some special Jedi-like mastery over handguns that private citizens can never hope to obtain.

35. Private citizens don't need a gun for self- protection because the police are there to protect them even though the Supreme Court says the police are not responsible for their protection.

36. Citizens don't need to carry a gun for personal protection but police chiefs, who are desk-bound administrators who work in a building filled with cops, need a gun.

37. "Assault weapons" have no purpose other than to kill large numbers of people. The police need assault weapons. You do not.

38. When Microsoft pressures its distributors to give Microsoft preferential promotion, that's bad; but when the Federal government pressures cities to buy guns only from Smith & Wesson, that's good.

39. Trigger locks do not interfere with the ability to use a gun for defensive purposes, which is why you see police officers with one on their duty weapon.

40. Handgun Control, Inc., says they want to "keep guns out of the wrong hands." Guess what? You have the wrong hands.
 

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