How many TdF Lance will win?

Discussion in 'Professional Cycling' started by allgoo19, Oct 12, 2003.

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Will Lance win more titles?

  1. 5 meaning he won't win again.

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  2. 6

    39 vote(s)
    28.1%
  3. 7

    76 vote(s)
    54.7%
  4. 8

    24 vote(s)
    17.3%
  1. Memphmann

    Memphmann New Member

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    Only if the parties don't involve white sheets.... :)

    Memph
     


  2. 62vette

    62vette Well-Known Member

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    What's so special about toga parties?
     
  3. gntlmn

    gntlmn New Member

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    What I like about toga parties is that there aren't any burning crosses.:D
     
  4. RacinGator

    RacinGator New Member

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    LOL:p
     
  5. Memphmann

    Memphmann New Member

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    Did you say toga or orgy parties????

    The only thing on fire at my parties is the roof...

    Memph
     
  6. gntlmn

    gntlmn New Member

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    I don't want your house to burn down, but it's a relief there aren't any flames coming off the lawn.;)
     
  7. Memphmann

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    When your parties are awesome, they say your roof is on fire. It is a hip hop thing.....

    Memph
     
  8. gntlmn

    gntlmn New Member

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    It's a bigger relief that you don't know what I'm referring to. There's hope for you yet.:)
     
  9. Tuschinski

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    Yes, I agree...

    Shall we steer Memph towards cycling again? :)
    *sidesteps can of worms*
     
  10. gntlmn

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    If we can catch up to him. I understand his attacks (on the bike) are pretty wicked. He's known to leave the pack in the dust.:D
     
  11. Memphmann

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    You would have better luck in making me beleive that LA is a great rider, then catching me on a bike. Maybe if I fell off or had a flat..... :)

    Memph
     
  12. limerickman

    limerickman Moderator

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    What was the original question again ?
    Something about will LA win another TDF, I think !
    Instead, this thread meandered off to such great topics like
    cultural/racial profiling !
    My humble opinion : I think Armstrong will be doubly motivated this year to win his 6th.
    His team though is currently being whittled away (Heras, Valverde
    have both left).
    Telekom and CSC have said that this years TDF is their respective
    targets.
    Der Kaiser has a very strong Telekom team with him and CSC look
    strong too, with Sergant Major Riis bellowing at them.
    Armstrong was definitely in 2003 TDF.
    Ullrich and Vino etc know that he is beatable :
    On the other hand, the Texan only cycles the Tour each season so
    perhaps he will be able to muster one final victory.
    My heart says know but my brain says a victory is a distinct possibility.
    (Oh Jan, the natural and rightful successor to Indurain, Hinault,
    Merckx and Anqueteil, don't let it happen in 04 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
     
  13. gntlmn

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    The thing about this game is that you don't know what I look like. You might think you're up against me, but after you get hopelessly dropped, you may begin to wonder if the guy you were racing against is really me or some retired Euro Pro rider who's read some of your posts here and wants to fill in like a pinch hitter albeit incognito.:D
     
  14. Memphmann

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    True enough....

    Memph
     
  15. Rudy

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    what we have here is a failure to communicate!!!
     
  16. whitejersey007

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    For me, I don't see him as a cyclist anymore. He's now some big shot. I guess for me when somebody becomes like he has, its done. Now he's just a jerk that won the TdF, if he really wanted to be impressive he oughtta go and win all three Grand Tours in a year, make some cycling news instead of in the gossip mags..
     
  17. limerickman

    limerickman Moderator

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    I never rated him !
     
  18. apolack1

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    Will lance win 6? Maybe, but i think it will not depend on him, but t-mobile. If they cant work together as a team, i.e. if the other greats on the teams dont sacrifice for jan, jan will lose (it'll be like riding alone), and lance might win. Virenque (sp?) already said he will go for the polka-dot jersey. Thats one less good climber helping jan. One of the reasons lance has won is because his team supports him 100%. No member of the team has ever won a stage while lance has been winning (ignoring the TTT). If jan can get the same support from his allstar cast, lance is sunk. But, a more important question is what the hell is going on in cycling. No one races for the sake of racing anymore. It all about the win. For example:
    "In 1969, Eddy Merckx, already a lock for the yellow jersey with an eight minute lead a week away from Paris, dropped the hammer, and the peloton on the 6,935 ft. Tourmalet, and two other climbs and finished seven minutes over his chasers. Thanks to this strategically senseless attack, Merckx took the race's yellow, green, and polka-dot jersey."
    Eddy took a chance, and might have bonked and lost the tour because of it, but it made for the most amazing tour in history. Lance got tons of coverage for his avoidance of beloki. Imagine how crazy people would go for this sort of attack. We need more champions like Merckx. All the big racers look for now is the win, and thats all sponsors care about. I want more crazy gambles, some great racing. I want to see racers throw caution to the wind, and produce some legendary races. Most off all, i wanna see racers race more than just the tour. This focus on the tour is killing cycling, sponsors soon will pull out of every other race, cuz the greats never go to these races. Hopefully the proposed pro-tour will help things out, even though i think it is fatally flawed (thats another thread). Until these tour divas (lance, jan, tyler...) get out and race all the time, i dont care if lance or anyone wins 10 tours in a row, it will never mean as much as the wins of Merckx, Lemond, or even the unknown racers who only one once, then faded into obscurity.
     
  19. apolack1

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    oh yeah, Im an american, if that makes a difference... Anyway, just so you euros know, outside of cyclist, lance isnt really that popular in the States. Even though he keeps making all these best athlete awards, most americans dont know who he is (im talking about the average american, not those who are cultured, or cyclists, the everyman i.e. 90% of America), and almost no one knows anything about cycling. I would say that no one except cyclists (who are still rare in this country) understand that cycling is a team event. I almost cracked up when one of the euro mags said lance was a US sex symbol. The only place his love life makes headlines is in europe. The US is in love with actors with chisled abs, and big muscles, not skinny cyclists. Some of the best cyclists may be Americans, but US cycling is in the toilet. There are no major races (i.e. Coors Cup), like twenty years ago, and no real way for the average american to acend to professional status. Remember, the US has a population similar to that of all of western europe. Now compare how many major races are in europe, then how many are in the US. Thats how much the average american pays attention to cycling.
     
  20. limerickman

    limerickman Moderator

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    I agree 100% : this sport of ours has become too specialised.
    Of course, some people will say that the sport has changed and that it's impossible to race more races in the season.
    I'm afraid I don't agree.
    In 1992/1993, Miguel Indurain went out and did the double double : against much tougher opposition when compared to what's around these days.
    Marco Pantani in 1998 did the double also.

    I think Armstrong may regret the fact that he has chosen to solely
    concentrate on the TDF to the exclusion of everything else because I believe that he was good enough to win more than the TDF in one season, in 2000,2001 and 2002.
    Obviously he feels TDF takes priority over everything else which is
    a pity.
    Also Ullrich isn't blameless either but at least Ullrich has a more varied palmares.
     
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