How to ride in the winter!



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Tom Sherman

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See <http://de.sevenload.com/videos/pBHx94k/Leitra-Sport-auf-Schnee>.
[1] I plan on getting one of these (or a similar velomobile) if and when
I can afford housing with proper storage space.

[1] Ignore opening commercial.

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On Dec 27, 7:17 pm, Tom Sherman <[email protected]>
wrote:
> See <http://de.sevenload.com/videos/pBHx94k/Leitra-Sport-auf-Schnee>.
> [1] I plan on getting one of these (or a similar velomobile) if and when
> I can afford housing with proper storage space.
>
> [1] Ignore opening commercial.


Neat!

I'd have to be at least a little drunk, but ... since the guy in the
video seems to be, too ... I assume that's a given.
 
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* * Chas

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"Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> See <http://de.sevenload.com/videos/pBHx94k/Leitra-Sport-auf-Schnee>.
> [1] I plan on getting one of these (or a similar velomobile) if and when
> I can afford housing with proper storage space.
>
> [1] Ignore opening commercial.
>
> --
> Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
> POST FREE OR DIE!


Zu viel Biertrinken!

I thought the way to ride in winter is get a big pile of snacks in front
of you, turn on the tube and relax. ;-)

Chas.
 
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Scott Gordo

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On Dec 27, 10:17 pm, Tom Sherman <[email protected]>
wrote:
> See <http://de.sevenload.com/videos/pBHx94k/Leitra-Sport-auf-Schnee>.
> [1] I plan on getting one of these (or a similar velomobile) if and when
> I can afford housing with proper storage space.
>
> [1] Ignore opening commercial.
>
> --
> Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
> POST FREE OR DIE!


That is awesome.

...

Where do I get one?

/s
 
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Scott Gordo

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On Dec 28, 10:41 am, Scott Gordo <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Dec 27, 10:17 pm, Tom Sherman <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > See <http://de.sevenload.com/videos/pBHx94k/Leitra-Sport-auf-Schnee>.
> > [1] I plan on getting one of these (or a similar velomobile) if and when
> > I can afford housing with proper storage space.

>
> > [1] Ignore opening commercial.

>
> > --
> > Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
> > POST FREE OR DIE!

>
> That is awesome.
>
> ...
>
> Where do I get one?
>
> /s


Found it.

http://www.leitra.dk/news.php

Unfortunately, flying to Denmark to pick up my 4500 euro bike just
isn't in the budget, and craigslist isn't turning up anything :(

But it will be mine. Even if I have to build one out of washing
machine parts and plastic garbage cans. Oh yes, it will be mine.

/s
 
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gotbent

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"Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> See <http://de.sevenload.com/videos/pBHx94k/Leitra-Sport-auf-Schnee>. [1]
> I plan on getting one of these (or a similar velomobile) if and when I can
> afford housing with proper storage space.
>
> [1] Ignore opening commercial.
>
> --
> Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
> POST FREE OR DIE!


Just the vehicle to have when riding home from one of Amsterdam's coffee
shops.

Here's one I wish I could afford.
http://www.youtube.com:80/watch?v=gdyV6cZ4ZMg&feature=related

gotbent



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landotter

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On Dec 28, 12:03 am, "* * Chas" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]
>
> > See <http://de.sevenload.com/videos/pBHx94k/Leitra-Sport-auf-Schnee>.
> > [1] I plan on getting one of these (or a similar velomobile) if and when
> > I can afford housing with proper storage space.

>
> > [1] Ignore opening commercial.

>
> > --
> > Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
> > POST FREE OR DIE!

>
> Zu viel Biertrinken!
>
> I thought the way to ride in winter is get a big pile of snacks in front
> of you, turn on the tube and relax. ;-)


Mmmm, cheesy poofs!
http://tinyurl.com/2ydypj (scroll down for serving suggestion)
 
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Tom Sherman

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Scott Gordo wrote:
> On Dec 28, 10:41 am, Scott Gordo <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Dec 27, 10:17 pm, Tom Sherman <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> See <http://de.sevenload.com/videos/pBHx94k/Leitra-Sport-auf-Schnee>.
>>> [1] I plan on getting one of these (or a similar velomobile) if and when
>>> I can afford housing with proper storage space.
>>> [1] Ignore opening commercial.

>>
>> That is awesome.
>>
>> ...
>>
>> Where do I get one?
>>
>> /s

>
> Found it.
>
> http://www.leitra.dk/news.php
>
> Unfortunately, flying to Denmark to pick up my 4500 euro bike just
> isn't in the budget, and craigslist isn't turning up anything :(


The chance of finding a used velomobile outside of Northern Europe is
very slim. The recent drop in the dollar versus the Euro has made
importing anything from CE much more expensive. :(

> But it will be mine. Even if I have to build one out of washing
> machine parts and plastic garbage cans. Oh yes, it will be mine.


If you are looking for inspiration to build a velomobile [1] from spare
bits and scrap, check out this web-page:
<http://www.outsideconnection.com/gallant/hpv/joe/>.

Here is a homemade velomobile starting with a commercial trike for a
total cost of approximately $2900 plus labor:
<http://members.impulse.net/~dms/newfaird.html>.

[1] The generic name for fully-faired human powered vehicles intended
for practical street use.

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M-gineering

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Tom Sherman wrote:
> See <http://de.sevenload.com/videos/pBHx94k/Leitra-Sport-auf-Schnee>.
> [1] I plan on getting one of these (or a similar velomobile) if and when
> I can afford housing with proper storage space.
>
> [1] Ignore opening commercial.
>


Do not waste your money on a Leitra unless you need something to match
your split personality disorder: it is an interesting blend of sound
engineering and the worst build quality I've ever set eyes upon. When
you have spent another fortune to make it usable it is still noisy and
slow and difficult to get out off when it has toppled over again
--
/Marten

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Tom Sherman

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gotbent aka FVTR wrote:
> "Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
>> See <http://de.sevenload.com/videos/pBHx94k/Leitra-Sport-auf-Schnee>. [1]
>> I plan on getting one of these (or a similar velomobile) if and when I can
>> afford housing with proper storage space.
>>
>> [1] Ignore opening commercial.

>
> Just the vehicle to have when riding home from one of Amsterdam's coffee
> shops.


Or one in Geneva.

> Here's one I wish I could afford.
> http://www.youtube.com:80/watch?v=gdyV6cZ4ZMg&feature=related


Less than $12K US with tax: <http://www.go-one.us/Buying_a_go-one3.html>!

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On Dec 28, 6:26 pm, Tom Sherman <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Scott Gordo wrote:
> > On Dec 28, 10:41 am, Scott Gordo <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> On Dec 27, 10:17 pm, Tom Sherman <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:

>
> >>> See <http://de.sevenload.com/videos/pBHx94k/Leitra-Sport-auf-Schnee>.
> >>> [1] I plan on getting one of these (or a similar velomobile) if and when
> >>> I can afford housing with proper storage space.
> >>> [1] Ignore opening commercial.

>
> >> That is awesome.

>
> >> ...

>
> >> Where do I get one?

>
> >> /s

>
> > Found it.

>
> >http://www.leitra.dk/news.php

>
> > Unfortunately, flying to Denmark to pick up my 4500 euro bike just
> > isn't in the budget, and craigslist isn't turning up anything :(

>
> The chance of finding a used velomobile outside of Northern Europe is
> very slim. The recent drop in the dollar versus the Euro has made
> importing anything from CE much more expensive. :(
>
> > But it will be mine. Even if I have to build one out of washing
> > machine parts and plastic garbage cans. Oh yes, it will be mine.

>
> If you are looking for inspiration to build a velomobile [1] from spare
> bits and scrap, check out this web-page:
> <http://www.outsideconnection.com/gallant/hpv/joe/>.
>
> Here is a homemade velomobile starting with a commercial trike for a
> total cost of approximately $2900 plus labor:
> <http://members.impulse.net/~dms/newfaird.html>.
>
> [1] The generic name for fully-faired human powered vehicles intended
> for practical street use.
>
> --
> Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
> POST FREE OR DIE!



I'd go with a wire frame for the fairings with some sort of model (or
real) airplane fabric covering to keep it cheap and repairable.

It must be possible to make a velomobile for way cheaper than $2900.
Making a light one might be a different story.

Joseph
 
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gotbent

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"Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> gotbent aka FVTR wrote:
>> "Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]
>>> See <http://de.sevenload.com/videos/pBHx94k/Leitra-Sport-auf-Schnee>.
>>> [1] I plan on getting one of these (or a similar velomobile) if and when
>>> I can afford housing with proper storage space.
>>>
>>> [1] Ignore opening commercial.

>>
>> Just the vehicle to have when riding home from one of Amsterdam's coffee
>> shops.

>
> Or one in Geneva.


Well, if you're talking about Geneva, Illinois, I don't think a spliff is
gonna be on the menu; don't know about Geneva, Switzerland. Certainly would
be in Amsterdam.

>
>> Here's one I wish I could afford.
>> http://www.youtube.com:80/watch?v=gdyV6cZ4ZMg&feature=related

>
> Less than $12K US with tax: <http://www.go-one.us/Buying_a_go-one3.html>!
>


Not enough less, sadly.

> --
> Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
> POST FREE OR DIE!


gotbent



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Tom Sherman

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M-gineering aka Marten Gerritsen wrote:
> Tom Sherman wrote:
>> See <http://de.sevenload.com/videos/pBHx94k/Leitra-Sport-auf-Schnee>.
>> [1] I plan on getting one of these (or a similar velomobile) if and
>> when I can afford housing with proper storage space.
>>
>> [1] Ignore opening commercial.
>>

>
> Do not waste your money on a Leitra unless you need something to match
> your split personality disorder: it is an interesting blend of sound
> engineering and the worst build quality I've ever set eyes upon. When
> you have spent another fortune to make it usable it is still noisy and
> slow and difficult to get out off when it has toppled over again


The reports I have read claimed the Leitra was quite fast on flat terrain.

Is this toppling due to wind or too high of CG relative to the track? My
experience with recumbent tadpole trikes is that quite extreme maneuvers
beyond normal riding are needed to even raise one wheel off the ground.

What is your opinion (if any) of the build quality and handling of the
Quest and Mango?

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* * Chas

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"landotter" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]m...
> On Dec 28, 12:03 am, "* * Chas" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > "Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >
> > news:[email protected]
> >
> > > See

<http://de.sevenload.com/videos/pBHx94k/Leitra-Sport-auf-Schnee>.
> > > [1] I plan on getting one of these (or a similar velomobile) if and

when
> > > I can afford housing with proper storage space.

> >
> > > [1] Ignore opening commercial.

> >
> > > --
> > > Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
> > > POST FREE OR DIE!

> >
> > Zu viel Biertrinken!
> >
> > I thought the way to ride in winter is get a big pile of snacks in

front
> > of you, turn on the tube and relax. ;-)

>
> Mmmm, cheesy poofs!
> http://tinyurl.com/2ydypj (scroll down for serving suggestion)


I kind of liked the chopsticks bra better - less fattening... ;-)

Chas.
 
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Tom Sherman

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[email protected] aka Joseph Santaniello wrote:
> On Dec 28, 6:26 pm, Tom Sherman <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>> Scott Gordo wrote:
>>> On Dec 28, 10:41 am, Scott Gordo <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> On Dec 27, 10:17 pm, Tom Sherman <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> See <http://de.sevenload.com/videos/pBHx94k/Leitra-Sport-auf-Schnee>.
>>>>> [1] I plan on getting one of these (or a similar velomobile) if and when
>>>>> I can afford housing with proper storage space.
>>>>> [1] Ignore opening commercial.
>>>> That is awesome.
>>>> ...
>>>> Where do I get one?
>>>> /s
>>> Found it.
>>> http://www.leitra.dk/news.php
>>> Unfortunately, flying to Denmark to pick up my 4500 euro bike just
>>> isn't in the budget, and craigslist isn't turning up anything :(

>> The chance of finding a used velomobile outside of Northern Europe is
>> very slim. The recent drop in the dollar versus the Euro has made
>> importing anything from CE much more expensive. :(
>>
>>> But it will be mine. Even if I have to build one out of washing
>>> machine parts and plastic garbage cans. Oh yes, it will be mine.

>> If you are looking for inspiration to build a velomobile [1] from spare
>> bits and scrap, check out this web-page:
>> <http://www.outsideconnection.com/gallant/hpv/joe/>.
>>
>> Here is a homemade velomobile starting with a commercial trike for a
>> total cost of approximately $2900 plus labor:
>> <http://members.impulse.net/~dms/newfaird.html>.
>>
>> [1] The generic name for fully-faired human powered vehicles intended
>> for practical street use.

>
>
> I'd go with a wire frame for the fairings with some sort of model (or
> real) airplane fabric covering to keep it cheap and repairable.


What a dopey idea! ;)

Doped aircraft quality Dacron would likely be the best choice. Composite
materials (similar to modern tent poles) could be used for the fairing
frame.

> It must be possible to make a velomobile for way cheaper than $2900.
> Making a light one might be a different story.


See the Joe Kochanowski's page for construction on a low budget:
<http://www.outsideconnection.com/gallant/hpv/joe/>.

However, when a mid-level road bicycle is $1500 US, it would be
unreasonable to expect to build a similar quality velomobile for
anywhere near the same price, considering the greater complexity of the
velomobile.

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landotter

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On Dec 28, 12:23 pm, "* * Chas" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "landotter" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]m...> On Dec 28, 12:03 am, "* * Chas" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > "Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message

>
> > >news:[email protected]

>
> > > > See

>
> <http://de.sevenload.com/videos/pBHx94k/Leitra-Sport-auf-Schnee>.
>
>
>
> > > > [1] I plan on getting one of these (or a similar velomobile) if and

> when
> > > > I can afford housing with proper storage space.

>
> > > > [1] Ignore opening commercial.

>
> > > > --
> > > > Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
> > > > POST FREE OR DIE!

>
> > > Zu viel Biertrinken!

>
> > > I thought the way to ride in winter is get a big pile of snacks in

> front
> > > of you, turn on the tube and relax. ;-)

>
> > Mmmm, cheesy poofs!
> >http://tinyurl.com/2ydypj (scroll down for serving suggestion)

>
> I kind of liked the chopsticks bra better - less fattening... ;-)


Mmmmm, miso hungry! :-3>
 
On Dec 28, 7:26 pm, Tom Sherman <[email protected]>
wrote:
> [email protected] aka Joseph Santaniello wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Dec 28, 6:26 pm, Tom Sherman <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >> Scott Gordo wrote:
> >>> On Dec 28, 10:41 am, Scott Gordo <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>> On Dec 27, 10:17 pm, Tom Sherman <[email protected]>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>> See <http://de.sevenload.com/videos/pBHx94k/Leitra-Sport-auf-Schnee>..
> >>>>> [1] I plan on getting one of these (or a similar velomobile) if and when
> >>>>> I can afford housing with proper storage space.
> >>>>> [1] Ignore opening commercial.
> >>>> That is awesome.
> >>>> ...
> >>>> Where do I get one?
> >>>> /s
> >>> Found it.
> >>>http://www.leitra.dk/news.php
> >>> Unfortunately, flying to Denmark to pick up my 4500 euro bike just
> >>> isn't in the budget, and craigslist isn't turning up anything :(
> >> The chance of finding a used velomobile outside of Northern Europe is
> >> very slim. The recent drop in the dollar versus the Euro has made
> >> importing anything from CE much more expensive. :(

>
> >>> But it will be mine. Even if I have to build one out of washing
> >>> machine parts and plastic garbage cans. Oh yes, it will be mine.
> >> If you are looking for inspiration to build a velomobile [1] from spare
> >> bits and scrap, check out this web-page:
> >> <http://www.outsideconnection.com/gallant/hpv/joe/>.

>
> >> Here is a homemade velomobile starting with a commercial trike for a
> >> total cost of approximately $2900 plus labor:
> >> <http://members.impulse.net/~dms/newfaird.html>.

>
> >> [1] The generic name for fully-faired human powered vehicles intended
> >> for practical street use.

>
> > I'd go with a wire frame for the fairings with some sort of model (or
> > real) airplane fabric covering to keep it cheap and repairable.

>
> What a dopey idea! ;)
>
> Doped aircraft quality Dacron would likely be the best choice. Composite
> materials (similar to modern tent poles) could be used for the fairing
> frame.
>
> > It must be possible to make a velomobile for way cheaper than $2900.
> > Making a light one might be a different story.

>
> See the Joe Kochanowski's page for construction on a low budget:
> <http://www.outsideconnection.com/gallant/hpv/joe/>.
>
> However, when a mid-level road bicycle is $1500 US, it would be
> unreasonable to expect to build a similar quality velomobile for
> anywhere near the same price, considering the greater complexity of the
> velomobile.
>
> --
> Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
> POST FREE OR DIE!


I was thinking along the lines of a "velomobile shaped object"...

Joseph
 
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* * Chas

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"gotbent" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
>
> "Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
> > gotbent aka FVTR wrote:
> >> "Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >> news:[email protected]
> >>> See

<http://de.sevenload.com/videos/pBHx94k/Leitra-Sport-auf-Schnee>.
> >>> [1] I plan on getting one of these (or a similar velomobile) if and

when
> >>> I can afford housing with proper storage space.
> >>>
> >>> [1] Ignore opening commercial.
> >>
> >> Just the vehicle to have when riding home from one of Amsterdam's

coffee
> >> shops.

> >
> > Or one in Geneva.

>
> Well, if you're talking about Geneva, Illinois, I don't think a spliff

is
> gonna be on the menu; don't know about Geneva, Switzerland. Certainly

would
> be in Amsterdam.
>


There's always the Amsterdam Cafe up in Vancouver, BC....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iY1Cl5vCDuM&NR=1

Chaaasssss.......
 
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A Muzi

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>>> "Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> See <http://de.sevenload.com/videos/pBHx94k/Leitra-Sport-auf-Schnee>.
>>>> [1] I plan on getting one of these (or a similar velomobile) if and when
>>>> I can afford housing with proper storage space.
>>>> [1] Ignore opening commercial.


>> gotbent aka FVTR wrote:
>>> Just the vehicle to have when riding home from one of Amsterdam's coffee
>>> shops.


> "Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote
>> Or one in Geneva.


gotbent wrote:
> Well, if you're talking about Geneva, Illinois, I don't think a spliff is
> gonna be on the menu; don't know about Geneva, Switzerland. Certainly would
> be in Amsterdam.

-snip-

The real Geneva is of course in Wisconsin, just east of Delavan on the
way to Tom Sherman.
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Tom Sherman

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Andrew Muzi wrote:
> ...
> gotbent wrote:
>> Well, if you're talking about Geneva, Illinois, I don't think a spliff
>> is gonna be on the menu; don't know about Geneva, Switzerland.
>> Certainly would be in Amsterdam.

> -snip-
>
> The real Geneva is of course in Wisconsin, just east of Delavan on the
> way to Tom Sherman.


That is the "City of Lake Geneva", not just plain "Geneva". Of course,
there is the "Town of Geneva" in Walworth County, which includes parts
of the City of Elkhorn, City of Lake Geneva and Village of Williams Bay.

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