HRM advice...

Discussion in 'Australia and New Zealand' started by Trevor S, Apr 25, 2003.

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  1. Trevor S

    Trevor S Guest

    I have been thinking about getting one for awhile, mainly for curiosity, am I working as hard as I
    think I am :)

    Anyhoo... Not particularly after anything "flash", I do the HR check manually, when I remember and
    when I can.

    What I don't want to do is purchase something and then 6 months later, regret it and wish I had
    gotten something with more features, so I am looking for advice from any "casual" riders out there,
    like myself, who may have already gone down this path. eg logging of heart rates to computer is not
    something I would consider useful for myself but is it something I woudl be likely to use further
    down the track ?

    On the flip side, I don't want to fork out $650 + the extra $ for all the paraphernalia that hangs
    off it, unless I am going to get some sort of benefit from it. eg the Polar S720i

    http://www.phantomcycles.com.au/product.asp?pid=1106

    I had been thinking of the Polar S510 but the reviews on mtbr.com seemed less then flattering.

    http://www.mtbr.com/reviews/Heart_Rate_Monitor/product_87251.shtml

    I would like something for cadence monitoring as well, once again more out of curiosity then
    anything else. Most of my riding is X/C MTB so is this going to be of any use ? I use the MTB on
    trasport sections to get to the XC trails, I actually enjoy riding the trasport sections, as opposed
    to some XC guys that always carry their bikes in a car to the trail.

    As an aside, I already have an Cateye Enduro bike computer

    Suggestions and sources ? (phantomcycles.com.au is who I normally use for online purchases + my
    LBS aside)

    I have taken note of a recent thread about using the HRM.

    Trevor S
     
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  2. Trevor S wrote:

    >I have been thinking about getting one for awhile, mainly for curiosity, am I working as hard as I
    >think I am :)
    >
    >Anyhoo... Not particularly after anything "flash", I do the HR check manually, when I remember and
    >when I can.
    >
    >What I don't want to do is purchase something and then 6 months later, regret it and wish I had
    >gotten something with more features, so I am looking for advice from any "casual" riders out there,
    >like myself, who may have already gone down this path. eg logging of heart rates to computer is not
    >something I would consider useful for myself but is it something I woudl be likely to use further
    >down the track ?
    >
    >On the flip side, I don't want to fork out $650 + the extra $ for all the paraphernalia that hangs
    >off it, unless I am going to get some sort of benefit from it. eg the Polar S720i
    >
    >http://www.phantomcycles.com.au/product.asp?pid=1106
    >
    >I had been thinking of the Polar S510 but the reviews on mtbr.com seemed less then flattering.
    >
    >http://www.mtbr.com/reviews/Heart_Rate_Monitor/product_87251.shtml
    >
    >I would like something for cadence monitoring as well, once again more out of curiosity then
    >anything else. Most of my riding is X/C MTB so is this going to be of any use ? I use the MTB on
    >trasport sections to get to the XC trails, I actually enjoy riding the trasport sections, as
    >opposed to some XC guys that always carry their bikes in a car to the trail.
    >
    >As an aside, I already have an Cateye Enduro bike computer
    >
    >Suggestions and sources ? (phantomcycles.com.au is who I normally use for online purchases + my
    >LBS aside)
    >
    >I have taken note of a recent thread about using the HRM.
    >
    >Trevor S
    >
    >
    I've got a Polar s150, cost me $320 from Cheeky Monkey (cheekymonkey.com.au). It's not as flash as
    the 510, but at the time I couldn't justify spending the extra $200 as I had never used a HRM
    before, and wasn't keen on spending $$$ for something that may prove useless. I'm glad I got it, and
    I'm still not sure if I should have saved up the extra $200 for the 510. The 150 is a good entry
    level HRM with some cycling functions (speed, distance) but doesn't have a cadence sensor, a light,
    or some of the more frivilous features. If you are going to use a HRM to improve your fitness, and
    are on a budget, then the s150 is probably the way to go. If you think you will actually use the
    data from the cadence sensor then get the s510. I know I said it in the previous thread, but it is
    important to get (and read!) a good book on HRM training, maybe you should get the book "/Scientific
    Heart Rate Training/" by Neil Craig *before* you buy a HRM, and have a think about how you will
    structure your training, then buy the model that will best suit your style of training. Book is
    available here: http://www.pursuit-performance.com.au/polar/html/local/polar_library.html

    Blissett
     
  3. Graham

    Graham Guest

    Trevor should have added he loves techno gadgets and anything that can be connected or downloaded
    to an iPaq.

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    "Trevor S" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    > I have been thinking about getting one for awhile, mainly for curiosity, am I working as hard as I
    > think I am :)
    >
    > Anyhoo... Not particularly after anything "flash", I do the HR check manually, when I remember and
    > when I can.
    >
    > What I don't want to do is purchase something and then 6 months later, regret it and wish I had
    > gotten something with more features, so I am looking for advice from any "casual" riders out
    > there, like myself, who may have already gone down this path. eg logging of heart rates to
    > computer is not something I would consider useful for myself but is it something I woudl be likely
    > to use further down the track ?
    >
    > On the flip side, I don't want to fork out $650 + the extra $ for all the paraphernalia that hangs
    > off it, unless I am going to get some sort of benefit from it. eg the Polar S720i
    >
    > http://www.phantomcycles.com.au/product.asp?pid=1106
    >
    > I had been thinking of the Polar S510 but the reviews on mtbr.com seemed less then flattering.
    >
    > http://www.mtbr.com/reviews/Heart_Rate_Monitor/product_87251.shtml
    >
    > I would like something for cadence monitoring as well, once again more out of curiosity then
    > anything else. Most of my riding is X/C MTB so is this going to be of any use ? I use the MTB on
    > trasport sections to get to the XC trails, I actually enjoy riding the trasport sections, as
    > opposed to some XC guys that always carry their bikes in a car to the trail.
    >
    > As an aside, I already have an Cateye Enduro bike computer
    >
    > Suggestions and sources ? (phantomcycles.com.au is who I normally use for online purchases + my
    > LBS aside)
    >
    > I have taken note of a recent thread about using the HRM.
    >
    > Trevor S
     
  4. Buddha

    Buddha New Member

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    Hey Trevor,

    A HRM is a very useful tool, but you need to ask yourself what are you really going to use it for. If it's just out of curiosity, then you don't need to be looking at anything fancy, however, if you intend to race (or take up racing sometime in the future), then you might want to consider getting one with a few more features.

    Having said that, I have an S710 which has been great and I would thoroughly recommend it. It has everything I need, and I especially like the fact that I can download it to PC and see in an instant how well (or not) I am doing. I can also plan interval sessions in advance so that all I need to do is go out and ride and not worry about pushing a certain button at a certain time.

    It has some great functions, but if you don't need them consider an S150 or S510.

    Don't worry too much about the reviews on mtbreview. I've learnt over the years to read them and look for trends in what others are saying before making up my mind.

    My advice would be to do your research on the HRM's that interest you most, decide objectively on what you plan to do with it and then take it from there.

    All the best,

    Buddha
     
  5. Trevor S

    Trevor S Guest

    Luther Blissett <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

    <snip>

    > I've got a Polar s150, cost me $320 from Cheeky Monkey (cheekymonkey.com.au). It's not as flash as
    > the 510, but at the time I couldn't justify spending the extra $200 as I had never used a HRM
    > before, and wasn't keen on spending $$$ for something that may prove useless.

    Which is exactly where I am at and why I wanted advice from somewhone who had been down there :)

    > I'm glad I got it, and I'm still not sure if I should have saved up the extra $200 for the 510.

    DOH !.... I was hoping you would be more definitive <grin> The thing that "bothered" me with the 510
    was the bad feedback at mtbr.com, I wondererd if the 510 was a compromise and you needed to go to
    the 7 series to get something that worked, or stick with the basic models.

    > actually use the data from the cadence sensor then get the s510. I know I said it in the previous
    > thread, but it is important to get (and read!) a good book on HRM training, maybe you should get
    > the book

    Yeah, I noted that and bookmarked the thread. My swiming coach has been on my back about getting
    one as well.

    Just got back from some hill work (I am no good at them...sigh) though I do like the downhill MTB
    trail off the side :). Anyhoo, thought I was going to pass out after riding up the third time, would
    have been interested to see what my HR was.

    Trevor S
     
  6. Greg Wilson\

    Greg Wilson\ Guest

    I bought a HR1000 bike computer with a HRM built in to it for $35 US from Supergo a few months ago.
    http://www.supergo.com/

    It cost me about $80 Aus. by the time I paid for freight and it's excellent. I use it on solo
    training rides to keep me motivated to push. It has upper and lower limit setting and flashes with
    an arrow to show if you're above or below your zone. The computer has all the functions of good bike
    computers except cadence and it has a large, easy to read screen. The only detraction is that it
    can't be used off the bike as it needs the wheel rotation to keep it in "On" mode.

    They also have watch style HRMs with bike mounts from $39.95 US.

    http://www.supergo.com/itemlist.asp?id=24&subid=1512&company=~ALL~

    I've found the hrm is useful when I'm riding alone, but irrelelevant when I'm riding with friends as
    I match my pace to the group. It is interesting to see how high my heart rate goes when racing
    friends up a hill.

    Cheers,

    GregW.

    "Trevor S" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    > I have been thinking about getting one for awhile, mainly for curiosity, am I working as hard as I
    > think I am :)
    >
    > Anyhoo... Not particularly after anything "flash", I do the HR check manually, when I remember and
    > when I can.
    >
    > What I don't want to do is purchase something and then 6 months later, regret it and wish I had
    > gotten something with more features, so I am looking for advice from any "casual" riders out
    > there, like myself, who may have already gone down this path. eg logging of heart rates to
    > computer is not something I would consider useful for myself but is it something I woudl be likely
    > to use further down the track ?
    >
    > On the flip side, I don't want to fork out $650 + the extra $ for all the paraphernalia that hangs
    > off it, unless I am going to get some sort of benefit from it. eg the Polar S720i
    >
    > http://www.phantomcycles.com.au/product.asp?pid=1106
    >
    > I had been thinking of the Polar S510 but the reviews on mtbr.com seemed less then flattering.
    >
    > http://www.mtbr.com/reviews/Heart_Rate_Monitor/product_87251.shtml
    >
    > I would like something for cadence monitoring as well, once again more out of curiosity then
    > anything else. Most of my riding is X/C MTB so is this going to be of any use ? I use the MTB on
    > trasport sections to get to the XC trails, I actually enjoy riding the trasport sections, as
    > opposed to some XC guys that always carry their bikes in a car to the trail.
    >
    > As an aside, I already have an Cateye Enduro bike computer
    >
    > Suggestions and sources ? (phantomcycles.com.au is who I normally use for online purchases + my
    > LBS aside)
    >
    > I have taken note of a recent thread about using the HRM.
    >
    > Trevor S
     
  7. Nickzx6r

    Nickzx6r Guest

    Trevor S <[email protected]> wrote:
    > I have been thinking about getting one for awhile, mainly for curiosity, am I working as hard as I
    > think I am :)

    > Anyhoo... Not particularly after anything "flash", I do the HR check manually, when I remember and
    > when I can.

    > What I don't want to do is purchase something and then 6 months later, regret it and wish I had
    > gotten something with more features, so I am looking for advice from any "casual" riders out
    > there, like myself, who may have already gone down this path. eg logging of heart rates to
    > computer is not something I would consider useful for myself but is it something I woudl be likely
    > to use further down the track ?

    > On the flip side, I don't want to fork out $650 + the extra $ for all the paraphernalia that hangs
    > off it, unless I am going to get some sort of benefit from it. eg the Polar S720i

    > http://www.phantomcycles.com.au/product.asp?pid=1106

    > I had been thinking of the Polar S510 but the reviews on mtbr.com seemed less then flattering.

    > http://www.mtbr.com/reviews/Heart_Rate_Monitor/product_87251.shtml

    > I would like something for cadence monitoring as well, once again more out of curiosity then
    > anything else. Most of my riding is X/C MTB so is this going to be of any use ? I use the MTB on
    > trasport sections to get to the XC trails, I actually enjoy riding the trasport sections, as
    > opposed to some XC guys that always carry their bikes in a car to the trail.

    > As an aside, I already have an Cateye Enduro bike computer

    > Suggestions and sources ? (phantomcycles.com.au is who I normally use for online purchases + my
    > LBS aside)

    > I have taken note of a recent thread about using the HRM.

    > Trevor S

    I bought a Sigma HRM A few years ago, like you just out of curiosity.

    It is about as basic as they come. It shows current HR and you can set an upper and lower limit (ie.
    one zone). It also has a stopwatch and an audible alarm (for when you're outside your zone limits)
    and of course, a clock.

    It's been really useful but now I wish I had one that stored max HR and average HR.

    I don't care about downloading data to a PC so that's not woirth extra $ to me. And the bike
    computer I have already has cadence.

    I'd say it's definitely worth getting one with max and average, but the other features depend on
    whether you think they're worth the extra dollars.

    Also, I've found that since mine doesn't store any info I don't actually use it much any more
    because I'm now able to estimate my HR quite accurately. Sort of like once you've hada cadence
    computer fora while you know what your cadence is without looking at the display.

    Cheers
    --
    Nick
     
  8. Keith

    Keith Guest

    Luther Blissett ... wrote ...
    > >
    > >What I don't want to do is purchase something and then 6 months later, regret it and wish I had
    > >gotten something with more features, so I am looking for advice from any "casual" riders out
    > >there, like myself, who may have already gone down this path. eg logging of heart rates to
    > >computer is not something I would consider useful for myself but is it something I woudl be
    > >likely to use further down the track ?
    > >
    > >On the flip side, I don't want to fork out $650 + the extra $ for all the paraphernalia that
    > >hangs off it, unless I am going to get some sort of benefit from it. eg the Polar S720i
    > >

    FWIW, I have a Polar Sport Tester that cost me around $600 about 8 years ago. I have used it almost
    daily and it has never missed a beat. Polar in South Australia have given fantastic service for
    battery replacement and guaranteed waterproofing. I have also owned a couple of other Polar HRMs and
    my advice is to get the simplest reliable HRM or to go for the best. Intermediate models will leave
    you frustrated as you will always regret you did not outlay the few additional $$$s for the extra
    functions. I really appreciate the ability of the Sport Tester to record up to 8 hours of heart
    beats (at 15 second intervals in up to eight files). I download these into an Excel spreadsheet and
    graph my performance. It is amazing to see the graph of my HR looking like a contour map of the
    terrain. Useful, too, if I replicate a row, ride or run to compare myself over the years.

    They are very useful - but you still have to do the work! No magic. Just don't believe that nonsense
    about "220 minus your age" - it has no basis in science, just convention.

    Keith
     
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