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What is a hygienic doctor?

I have never heard of this term.
 
>Subject: hygienic doctors
>From: Say not the Struggle nought Availeth [email protected]
>Date: 11/12/03 9:52 PM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <[email protected]>
>
>What is a hygienic doctor?

>I have never heard of this term.
>
And the allopathic medical monopoly wants it that way. Hygienic doctors base
their beliefs upon the American medical theory of ORTHOPATHY. This theory began
in 1822 with Dr. Issac Jennings ( I think ). It disappeared along with
homeopathy, chiropractic, and other medical teachings around 1910 with the
formation of the current medical monopoly which ran all the others out of
business.


Dr. C.
 
"DRCEEPHD" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht
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> >Subject: hygienic doctors
> >From: Say not the Struggle nought Availeth [email protected]
> >Date: 11/12/03 9:52 PM Eastern Standard Time
> >Message-id: <[email protected]>
> >
> >What is a hygienic doctor?
>
> >I have never heard of this term.
> >
> And the allopathic medical monopoly wants it that way. Hygienic doctors
base
> their beliefs upon the American medical theory of ORTHOPATHY. This theory
began
> in 1822 with Dr. Issac Jennings ( I think ). It disappeared along with
> homeopathy, chiropractic, and other medical teachings around 1910 with the
> formation of the current medical monopoly which ran all the others out of
> business.

Who let this pixie out?


--

Robert Bronsing

But that's okay, see the children bleed
It'll look great on the TV
 
>
>"DRCEEPHD" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht
>news:[email protected]...
>> >Subject: hygienic doctors
>> >From: Say not the Struggle nought Availeth [email protected]
>> >Date: 11/12/03 9:52 PM Eastern Standard Time
>> >Message-id: <[email protected]>
>> >
>> >What is a hygienic doctor?
>>
>> >I have never heard of this term.
>> >
>> And the allopathic medical monopoly wants it that way. Hygienic doctors
>base
>> their beliefs upon the American medical theory of ORTHOPATHY. This theory
>began
>> in 1822 with Dr. Issac Jennings ( I think ). It disappeared along with
>> homeopathy, chiropractic, and other medical teachings around 1910 with the
>> formation of the current medical monopoly which ran all the others out of
>> business.
>
>Who let this pixie out?
>
>
>--
>
>Robert Bronsing
>

I'm guessing that the Taco Bell nearest him has kicked him out.
 
In article <[email protected]>,
DRCEEPHD <[email protected]> wrote:
>>Subject: hygienic doctors
>>From: Say not the Struggle nought Availeth [email protected]
>>Date: 11/12/03 9:52 PM Eastern Standard Time
>>Message-id: <[email protected]>
>>
>>What is a hygienic doctor?
>
>>I have never heard of this term.
>>
>And the allopathic medical monopoly wants it that way. Hygienic doctors base
>their beliefs upon the American medical theory of ORTHOPATHY. This theory began
>in 1822 with Dr. Issac Jennings ( I think ). It disappeared along with
>homeopathy, chiropractic, and other medical teachings around 1910 with the
>formation of the current medical monopoly which ran all the others out of
>business.

Gee, I hadn't realized homeopathy and (especially) chiropractic had
disappeared. I must be imagining all those ads from chiropractors in
my phone book.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)
 
>Subject: Re: hygienic doctors
>From: [email protected] (David Wright)
>Date: 11/13/03 5:23 PM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <[email protected]>
>

>Gee, I hadn't realized homeopathy and (especially) chiropractic had
>disappeared. I must be imagining all those ads from chiropractors in
>my phone book.
>
> -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net

You know as well as I that you cannot have a proper monopoly if you are not the
only choice that people have, especially a sick one. Go back to 1910 and you
will find out that the Carnegie/Rockefeller medical monopoly ran all the other
competition out of business ( 464 medical schools of various types) and then
gave the final 60 or so allopathic medical schools $10,000,000 each in 1910
dollars to get up and going. Every medical school offering an MD degree today
is an allopathic medical school. The last medical school offering a non
allopathic medical education in this country closed in 1909.

This does not mean that the other schools of medical thought are not
staging a comeback. Problem is that the monopoly has constructed a wall of
laws at the federal, state and local level to protect themselves. They have
the FDA to inforce their needs. And, most importantly, they control the
medical insurance industry, the money. Considering that they put up around
$600,000,000 and now have a monopoly that in the US alone brings in over
$1,500,000,000 yearly, I think the guys were absolute geniuses.

Dr. C.
 
"Robert Bronsing" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...

>
> Who let this pixie out?

Robert, your responses are getting more and more inane - not to
mention the quips beneath your signature, which are almost
meaningless.
You better be careful or people will start to ask 'who let you out?'

Carole
http://www.austarmetro.com.au/~hubbca/codex.htm
"At the heart of science lies discovery which involves a change in
worldview. Discovery in science is possible only in societies which
accord their citizens the freedom to pursue the truth where it may
lead and which therefore have respect for different paths to that
truth," -- John Polanyi, Canadian Nobel Laureate (Chemistry);
commencement address, McGill University, Montreal, Canada, June 1990
 
>"Robert Bronsing" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:<[email protected]>...
>
>>
>> Who let this pixie out?
>
>Robert, your responses are getting more and more inane - not to
>mention the quips beneath your signature, which are almost
>meaningless.
>You better be careful or people will start to ask 'who let you out?'
>
>Carole

Robert, you should frame this. Given Carole's "mind-set", her denouncement is
actually praise of the highest order.
 
"Carole" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht
news:[email protected]...
> "Robert Bronsing" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
>
> >
> > Who let this pixie out?
>
> Robert, your responses are getting more and more inane - not to
> mention the quips beneath your signature, which are almost
> meaningless.

That they have no meaning to you says more about your worldview than it does
about mine.


> You better be careful or people will start to ask 'who let you out?'

Well, I'm not afraid when such an assertion comes from the likes of you.


--

Robert Bronsing

But that's okay, see the children bleed
It'll look great on the TV
 
Why do all conspiracies involve Rockefeller?

As to the dominance of science based medicine, it's not due to an evil
conspiracy, but simply due to it's efficacy .

j.

DRCEEPHD wrote:
>>Subject: Re: hygienic doctors
>>From: [email protected] (David Wright)
>>Date: 11/13/03 5:23 PM Eastern Standard Time
>>Message-id: <[email protected]>
>>
>
>>Gee, I hadn't realized homeopathy and (especially) chiropractic had
>>disappeared. I must be imagining all those ads from chiropractors in
>>my phone book.
>>
>> -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
>
>
> You know as well as I that you cannot have a proper monopoly if you are not the
> only choice that people have, especially a sick one. Go back to 1910 and you
> will find out that the Carnegie/Rockefeller medical monopoly ran all the other
> competition out of business ( 464 medical schools of various types) and then
> gave the final 60 or so allopathic medical schools $10,000,000 each in 1910
> dollars to get up and going. Every medical school offering an MD degree today
> is an allopathic medical school. The last medical school offering a non
> allopathic medical education in this country closed in 1909.
>
> This does not mean that the other schools of medical thought are not
> staging a comeback. Problem is that the monopoly has constructed a wall of
> laws at the federal, state and local level to protect themselves. They have
> the FDA to inforce their needs. And, most importantly, they control the
> medical insurance industry, the money. Considering that they put up around
> $600,000,000 and now have a monopoly that in the US alone brings in over
> $1,500,000,000 yearly, I think the guys were absolute geniuses.
>
> Dr. C.
>
 
"Say not the Struggle nought Availeth" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Why do all conspiracies involve Rockefeller?

They are, for the most part, dead. Thus, it is easier to have a conspiracy.
This fact is taught in Conspiracy 101.

> As to the dominance of science based medicine, it's not due to an evil
> conspiracy, but simply due to it's efficacy .

That is what the evil T.H.E.Y. group wanted you to say.
 
In article <[email protected]>,
DRCEEPHD <[email protected]> wrote:
>>Subject: Re: hygienic doctors
>>From: [email protected] (David Wright)
>>Date: 11/13/03 5:23 PM Eastern Standard Time
>>Message-id: <[email protected]>
>>
>
>>Gee, I hadn't realized homeopathy and (especially) chiropractic had
>>disappeared. I must be imagining all those ads from chiropractors in
>>my phone book.
>>
>> -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
>

>You know as well as I that you cannot have a proper monopoly if you
>are not the only choice that people have, especially a sick one. Go
>back to 1910 and you will find out that the Carnegie/Rockefeller
>medical monopoly ran all the other competition out of business ( 464
>medical schools of various types) and then gave the final 60 or so
>allopathic medical schools $10,000,000 each in 1910 dollars to get up
>and going. Every medical school offering an MD degree today is an
>allopathic medical school. The last medical school offering a non
>allopathic medical education in this country closed in 1909.

Gosh, it just wouldn't be a complete discussion if we didn't drag the
Rockefellers into it somehow, though Carnegie is a less common touch.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)
 
>Subject: Re: hygienic doctors
>From: [email protected] (David Wright)
>Date: 11/14/2003 1:42 PM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: <i%[email protected]>
>
>In article <[email protected]>,
>DRCEEPHD <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>Subject: Re: hygienic doctors
>>>From: [email protected] (David Wright)
>>>Date: 11/13/03 5:23 PM Eastern Standard Time
>>>Message-id: <[email protected]>
>>>
>>
>>>Gee, I hadn't realized homeopathy and (especially) chiropractic had
>>>disappeared. I must be imagining all those ads from chiropractors in
>>>my phone book.
>>>
>>> -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
>>
>
>>You know as well as I that you cannot have a proper monopoly if you
>>are not the only choice that people have, especially a sick one. Go
>>back to 1910 and you will find out that the Carnegie/Rockefeller
>>medical monopoly ran all the other competition out of business ( 464
>>medical schools of various types) and then gave the final 60 or so
>>allopathic medical schools $10,000,000 each in 1910 dollars to get up
>>and going. Every medical school offering an MD degree today is an
>>allopathic medical school. The last medical school offering a non
>>allopathic medical education in this country closed in 1909.
>
>Gosh, it just wouldn't be a complete discussion if we didn't drag the
>Rockefellers into it somehow, though Carnegie is a less common touch.

Translation:David knows it is true, but he has to say somthing.

Jan
 
"Jan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> >Subject: Re: hygienic doctors
> >From: [email protected] (David Wright)
> >Date: 11/14/2003 1:42 PM Pacific Standard Time
> >Message-id: <i%[email protected]>
> >
> >In article <[email protected]>,
> >DRCEEPHD <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>Subject: Re: hygienic doctors
> >>>From: [email protected] (David Wright)
> >>>Date: 11/13/03 5:23 PM Eastern Standard Time
> >>>Message-id: <[email protected]>
> >>>
> >>
> >>>Gee, I hadn't realized homeopathy and (especially) chiropractic had
> >>>disappeared. I must be imagining all those ads from chiropractors in
> >>>my phone book.
> >>>
> >>> -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
> >>
> >
> >>You know as well as I that you cannot have a proper monopoly if you
> >>are not the only choice that people have, especially a sick one. Go
> >>back to 1910 and you will find out that the Carnegie/Rockefeller
> >>medical monopoly ran all the other competition out of business ( 464
> >>medical schools of various types) and then gave the final 60 or so
> >>allopathic medical schools $10,000,000 each in 1910 dollars to get up
> >>and going. Every medical school offering an MD degree today is an
> >>allopathic medical school. The last medical school offering a non
> >>allopathic medical education in this country closed in 1909.
> >
> >Gosh, it just wouldn't be a complete discussion if we didn't drag the
> >Rockefellers into it somehow, though Carnegie is a less common touch.
>
> Translation:David knows it is true, but he has to say somthing.

Translation:

Jan has no idea what they are talking about, bu, when she sees David Wright
post something, she is compelled to trash him.
 
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 23:04:27 GMT, "Marko Proberto"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>"Jan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> >Subject: Re: hygienic doctors
>> >From: [email protected] (David Wright)
>> >Date: 11/14/2003 1:42 PM Pacific Standard Time
>> >Message-id: <i%[email protected]>
>> >
>> >In article <[email protected]>,
>> >DRCEEPHD <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>>Subject: Re: hygienic doctors
>> >>>From: [email protected] (David Wright)
>> >>>Date: 11/13/03 5:23 PM Eastern Standard Time
>> >>>Message-id: <[email protected]>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>>Gee, I hadn't realized homeopathy and (especially) chiropractic had
>> >>>disappeared. I must be imagining all those ads from chiropractors in
>> >>>my phone book.
>> >>>
>> >>> -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
>> >>
>> >
>> >>You know as well as I that you cannot have a proper monopoly if you
>> >>are not the only choice that people have, especially a sick one. Go
>> >>back to 1910 and you will find out that the Carnegie/Rockefeller
>> >>medical monopoly ran all the other competition out of business ( 464
>> >>medical schools of various types) and then gave the final 60 or so
>> >>allopathic medical schools $10,000,000 each in 1910 dollars to get up
>> >>and going. Every medical school offering an MD degree today is an
>> >>allopathic medical school. The last medical school offering a non
>> >>allopathic medical education in this country closed in 1909.
>> >
>> >Gosh, it just wouldn't be a complete discussion if we didn't drag the
>> >Rockefellers into it somehow, though Carnegie is a less common touch.
>>
>> Translation:David knows it is true, but he has to say somthing.
>
>Translation:
>
>Jan has no idea what they are talking about, bu, when she sees David Wright
>post something, she is compelled to trash him.

Indeed. Making gratuitous insults is one of the more endearing
characteristics of Jan "It is NEVER right to belittle" Drew.

There is one positive aspect of having Jan Drew post here though; if
someone supports her then you can be sure that this person cannot be
trusted either. Anyone who reads Jan Drew's bigoted, hateful and
dishonest posts and supports her tells you much about their own
integrity.

And you can be reasonably certain that Jan Drew is reading all the
posts of the people she claims that she has kill filed. The only
reason that she kill files people is to give her plausible deniability
in her failure to reconcile her contradictory statements that are
frequently brought up to her.

Aloha,

Rich
>
>

------------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------------

The best defense to logic is ignorance.
 
"Rich" <,@.> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 23:04:27 GMT, "Marko Proberto"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Jan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >> >Subject: Re: hygienic doctors
> >> >From: [email protected] (David Wright)
> >> >Date: 11/14/2003 1:42 PM Pacific Standard Time
> >> >Message-id: <i%[email protected]>
> >> >
> >> >In article <[email protected]>,
> >> >DRCEEPHD <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >>>Subject: Re: hygienic doctors
> >> >>>From: [email protected] (David Wright)
> >> >>>Date: 11/13/03 5:23 PM Eastern Standard Time
> >> >>>Message-id: <[email protected]>
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >>>Gee, I hadn't realized homeopathy and (especially) chiropractic had
> >> >>>disappeared. I must be imagining all those ads from chiropractors
in
> >> >>>my phone book.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >>You know as well as I that you cannot have a proper monopoly if you
> >> >>are not the only choice that people have, especially a sick one. Go
> >> >>back to 1910 and you will find out that the Carnegie/Rockefeller
> >> >>medical monopoly ran all the other competition out of business ( 464
> >> >>medical schools of various types) and then gave the final 60 or so
> >> >>allopathic medical schools $10,000,000 each in 1910 dollars to get up
> >> >>and going. Every medical school offering an MD degree today is an
> >> >>allopathic medical school. The last medical school offering a non
> >> >>allopathic medical education in this country closed in 1909.
> >> >
> >> >Gosh, it just wouldn't be a complete discussion if we didn't drag the
> >> >Rockefellers into it somehow, though Carnegie is a less common touch.
> >>
> >> Translation:David knows it is true, but he has to say somthing.
> >
> >Translation:
> >
> >Jan has no idea what they are talking about, bu, when she sees David
Wright
> >post something, she is compelled to trash him.
>
> Indeed. Making gratuitous insults is one of the more endearing
> characteristics of Jan "It is NEVER right to belittle" Drew.
>
> There is one positive aspect of having Jan Drew post here though; if
> someone supports her then you can be sure that this person cannot be
> trusted either. Anyone who reads Jan Drew's bigoted, hateful and
> dishonest posts and supports her tells you much about their own
> integrity.
>
> And you can be reasonably certain that Jan Drew is reading all the
> posts of the people she claims that she has kill filed. The only
> reason that she kill files people is to give her plausible deniability
> in her failure to reconcile her contradictory statements that are
> frequently brought up to her.

Agreed. She does not want to deal with some people, thus she dismisses them
as liars, or Jews, or atheists, or EOMs, and, if she thinks she cannot get
away from it, she mentally killfiles them.
 
see below

Marko Proberto wrote:

> "Rich" <,@.> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 23:04:27 GMT, "Marko Proberto"
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >"Jan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > >news:[email protected]...
> > >> >Subject: Re: hygienic doctors
> > >> >From: [email protected] (David Wright)
> > >> >Date: 11/14/2003 1:42 PM Pacific Standard Time
> > >> >Message-id: <i%[email protected]>
> > >> >
> > >> >In article <[email protected]>,
> > >> >DRCEEPHD <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >> >>>Subject: Re: hygienic doctors
> > >> >>>From: [email protected] (David Wright)
> > >> >>>Date: 11/13/03 5:23 PM Eastern Standard Time
> > >> >>>Message-id: <[email protected]>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>>Gee, I hadn't realized homeopathy and (especially) chiropractic had
> > >> >>>disappeared. I must be imagining all those ads from chiropractors
> in
> > >> >>>my phone book.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >> >>You know as well as I that you cannot have a proper monopoly if you
> > >> >>are not the only choice that people have, especially a sick one. Go
> > >> >>back to 1910 and you will find out that the Carnegie/Rockefeller
> > >> >>medical monopoly ran all the other competition out of business ( 464
> > >> >>medical schools of various types) and then gave the final 60 or so
> > >> >>allopathic medical schools $10,000,000 each in 1910 dollars to get up
> > >> >>and going. Every medical school offering an MD degree today is an
> > >> >>allopathic medical school. The last medical school offering a non
> > >> >>allopathic medical education in this country closed in 1909.
> > >> >
> > >> >Gosh, it just wouldn't be a complete discussion if we didn't drag the
> > >> >Rockefellers into it somehow, though Carnegie is a less common touch.
> > >>
> > >> Translation:David knows it is true, but he has to say somthing.
> > >
> > >Translation:
> > >
> > >Jan has no idea what they are talking about, bu, when she sees David
> Wright
> > >post something, she is compelled to trash him.
> >
> > Indeed. Making gratuitous insults is one of the more endearing
> > characteristics of Jan "It is NEVER right to belittle" Drew.
> >
> > There is one positive aspect of having Jan Drew post here though; if
> > someone supports her then you can be sure that this person cannot be
> > trusted either. Anyone who reads Jan Drew's bigoted, hateful and
> > dishonest posts and supports her tells you much about their own
> > integrity.
> >
> > And you can be reasonably certain that Jan Drew is reading all the
> > posts of the people she claims that she has kill filed. The only
> > reason that she kill files people is to give her plausible deniability
> > in her failure to reconcile her contradictory statements that are
> > frequently brought up to her.
>
> Agreed. She does not want to deal with some people, thus she dismisses them
> as liars, or Jews, or atheists, or EOMs, and, if she thinks she cannot get
> away from it, she mentally killfiles them.

WAY TUH GO JAN..LOL! B-ob1
 
>Subject: Re: hygienic doctors
>From: B-Ob1 [email protected]
>Date: 11/14/2003 8:58 PM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: <[email protected]>
>
>see below
>
>Marko Proberto wrote:
>
>> "Rich" <,@.> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> > On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 23:04:27 GMT, "Marko Proberto"
>> > <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > >
>> > >"Jan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> > >news:[email protected]...
>> > >> >Subject: Re: hygienic doctors
>> > >> >From: [email protected] (David Wright)
>> > >> >Date: 11/14/2003 1:42 PM Pacific Standard Time
>> > >> >Message-id: <i%[email protected]>
>> > >> >
>> > >> >In article <[email protected]>,
>> > >> >DRCEEPHD <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > >> >>>Subject: Re: hygienic doctors
>> > >> >>>From: [email protected] (David Wright)
>> > >> >>>Date: 11/13/03 5:23 PM Eastern Standard Time
>> > >> >>>Message-id: <[email protected]>
>> > >> >>>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>>Gee, I hadn't realized homeopathy and (especially) chiropractic had
>> > >> >>>disappeared. I must be imagining all those ads from chiropractors
>> in
>> > >> >>>my phone book.
>> > >> >>>
>> > >> >>> -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >
>> > >> >>You know as well as I that you cannot have a proper monopoly if you
>> > >> >>are not the only choice that people have, especially a sick one. Go
>> > >> >>back to 1910 and you will find out that the Carnegie/Rockefeller
>> > >> >>medical monopoly ran all the other competition out of business ( 464
>> > >> >>medical schools of various types) and then gave the final 60 or so
>> > >> >>allopathic medical schools $10,000,000 each in 1910 dollars to get
>up
>> > >> >>and going. Every medical school offering an MD degree today is an
>> > >> >>allopathic medical school. The last medical school offering a non
>> > >> >>allopathic medical education in this country closed in 1909.
>> > >> >
>> > >> >Gosh, it just wouldn't be a complete discussion if we didn't drag the
>> > >> >Rockefellers into it somehow, though Carnegie is a less common touch.
>> > >>
>> > >> Translation:David knows it is true, but he has to say somthing.
>> > >
>> > >Translation:
>> > >
>> > >Jan has no idea what they are talking about, bu, when she sees David
>> Wright
>> > >post something, she is compelled to trash him.
>> >
>> > Indeed. Making gratuitous insults is one of the more endearing
>> > characteristics of Jan "It is NEVER right to belittle" Drew.
>> >
>> > There is one positive aspect of having Jan Drew post here though; if
>> > someone supports her then you can be sure that this person cannot be
>> > trusted either. Anyone who reads Jan Drew's bigoted, hateful and
>> > dishonest posts and supports her tells you much about their own
>> > integrity.
>> >
>> > And you can be reasonably certain that Jan Drew is reading all the
>> > posts of the people she claims that she has kill filed. The only
>> > reason that she kill files people is to give her plausible deniability
>> > in her failure to reconcile her contradictory statements that are
>> > frequently brought up to her.
>>
>> Agreed. She does not want to deal with some people, thus she dismisses them
>> as liars, or Jews, or atheists, or EOMs, and, if she thinks she cannot get
>> away from it, she mentally killfiles them.
>
> WAY TUH GO JAN..LOL! B-ob1

They just hate it becuase they can't run me off, or get by with all their many
lies.

Jan

Rich is a cyberstalker and he has been stalking Jan for a long time. John Bain
 
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