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Doug Taylor
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On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 22:52:45 -0500, A Muzi <[email protected]>
wrote:
>>> JD wrote:
>>>> Get this ********, RACING DOESN'T MEAN ****.
>
>> "Michael Warner" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Translation: "I WOULD GET DROPPED IN UNDER A MINUTE"
>
>G.T. wrote:
>> Even if that were the case RACING STILL DOESN'T MEAN ****.
>
>OK, then how do we know who's fastest?
>c'mon, 'racing' in all its forms is very human. Bikes, cash, SAT scores,
>poker, whatever.
Again, I think we have a "failure to communicate" and a values
conflict between amb and rbt culture.
Of course racing and competing is inherent in human nature. But the
categories of faster, stronger, better, etc., have no inherent
priority: the are merely value judgments. Either they make a
difference to you, or they don't.
Our mountain biking SS rider doesn't measure his worth by comparing
himself to the abilities of others, regardless of which side of any
equation he may be on in terms of strength or skill (and he might
REALLY be "faster, stronger, better"). Riding for him is not a
competition; it is an activity to be enjoyed in itself.
"I ride my bike to ride my bike" - Zen proverb.
Furthermore, when you add to the mix that virtually ALL professional
and world class athletic competitions are tainted, if not thoroughly
discredited, by doping in all its myriad forms, then the value
judgments of faster, stronger, better, lose all legitimacy and even
relevance.
A rider who rides to enjoy the ride for itself could care less about
which doped rider on which dope (or not) is faster, stronger, better
than which other doped riders (or not).
Hence, RACING DOESN'T MEAN ****.
wrote:
>>> JD wrote:
>>>> Get this ********, RACING DOESN'T MEAN ****.
>
>> "Michael Warner" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Translation: "I WOULD GET DROPPED IN UNDER A MINUTE"
>
>G.T. wrote:
>> Even if that were the case RACING STILL DOESN'T MEAN ****.
>
>OK, then how do we know who's fastest?
>c'mon, 'racing' in all its forms is very human. Bikes, cash, SAT scores,
>poker, whatever.
Again, I think we have a "failure to communicate" and a values
conflict between amb and rbt culture.
Of course racing and competing is inherent in human nature. But the
categories of faster, stronger, better, etc., have no inherent
priority: the are merely value judgments. Either they make a
difference to you, or they don't.
Our mountain biking SS rider doesn't measure his worth by comparing
himself to the abilities of others, regardless of which side of any
equation he may be on in terms of strength or skill (and he might
REALLY be "faster, stronger, better"). Riding for him is not a
competition; it is an activity to be enjoyed in itself.
"I ride my bike to ride my bike" - Zen proverb.
Furthermore, when you add to the mix that virtually ALL professional
and world class athletic competitions are tainted, if not thoroughly
discredited, by doping in all its myriad forms, then the value
judgments of faster, stronger, better, lose all legitimacy and even
relevance.
A rider who rides to enjoy the ride for itself could care less about
which doped rider on which dope (or not) is faster, stronger, better
than which other doped riders (or not).
Hence, RACING DOESN'T MEAN ****.