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RonSonic
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On Sun, 05 Aug 2007 19:41:08 -0500, "Tom \"Johnny Sunset\" Sherman"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>RonSonic WHO? wrote:
>> On Sun, 05 Aug 2007 18:34:46 -0500, "Tom \"Johnny Sunset\" Sherman"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> G.T. aka Greg Thomas who? wrote:
>>>> Chalo wrote:
>>>>> JD wrote:
>>>>>> Ozark Bicycle wrote:
>>>>>>> JD wrote:
>>>>>>>> C'mon out and ride with me sometime. I'll show you just how
>>>>>>>> inefficient singlespeed bikes are. Your weekday ride sounds like it's
>>>>>>>> loaded with punks and poseurs.
>>>>>>>> JD 225lbs and can still kick your ass
>>>>>>> No one talks smack quite like a SS or fixie freak.....
>>>>>> If you think it's unsubstantiated smack, keep kidding yourself.
>>>>> If you think you wouldn't go a lot faster with some damn gears, you're
>>>>> kidding yourself.
>>>>>
>>>> Having ridden my multi-geared bikes with the freak on his MTB SS and on
>>>> his road fixeds I'd say I doubt that he could go any faster (other than
>>>> downhill on the fixed).
>>> Have any professional level MTB races been won on fixed or single-speed
>>> bikes? (Actual, not rhetorical, question)
>>
>> Probably not. I have seen cyclocross races won on a single speed. That was a
>> fairly local event (Fla State Championship Series).
>>
>> I don't know why the emphasis on racing,...
>
>Er, the discussion was about the relative performance of single-speed
>and/or fixed gear MTB's verses geared MTB's. Since the goal of racing is
>to be the fastest, racing results would appear to provide some
>indication of relative performance.
>
>> you don't see recumbents winning any
>> mountain bike races, but some people still think they're somehow fun or useful[.]
>
>Class, can we say RED HERRING?
Well, yeah. That's what I was trying to point out. Mazda Miatas don't win any
indy car races but are a hell of a lot more fun on the street than an indy car
would be. So would you say it was silly to buy one for its performance.
Of course geared bikes are faster, didn't we establish that almost a hundred
years ago. Just because something is faster doesn't mean it's more fun.
The irony of all of this is that we the Bike-God-Dorks of RBT see how silly it
is that so many riders buy gear based on racing needs that have nothing whatever
to do with the riding they actually do, yet when a bike shows up that is clearly
intended for caroming through the woods and having fun one of the first
questions asked is "can you win a race on it." As if this were the measure of a
bike.
Ron
<[email protected]> wrote:
>RonSonic WHO? wrote:
>> On Sun, 05 Aug 2007 18:34:46 -0500, "Tom \"Johnny Sunset\" Sherman"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> G.T. aka Greg Thomas who? wrote:
>>>> Chalo wrote:
>>>>> JD wrote:
>>>>>> Ozark Bicycle wrote:
>>>>>>> JD wrote:
>>>>>>>> C'mon out and ride with me sometime. I'll show you just how
>>>>>>>> inefficient singlespeed bikes are. Your weekday ride sounds like it's
>>>>>>>> loaded with punks and poseurs.
>>>>>>>> JD 225lbs and can still kick your ass
>>>>>>> No one talks smack quite like a SS or fixie freak.....
>>>>>> If you think it's unsubstantiated smack, keep kidding yourself.
>>>>> If you think you wouldn't go a lot faster with some damn gears, you're
>>>>> kidding yourself.
>>>>>
>>>> Having ridden my multi-geared bikes with the freak on his MTB SS and on
>>>> his road fixeds I'd say I doubt that he could go any faster (other than
>>>> downhill on the fixed).
>>> Have any professional level MTB races been won on fixed or single-speed
>>> bikes? (Actual, not rhetorical, question)
>>
>> Probably not. I have seen cyclocross races won on a single speed. That was a
>> fairly local event (Fla State Championship Series).
>>
>> I don't know why the emphasis on racing,...
>
>Er, the discussion was about the relative performance of single-speed
>and/or fixed gear MTB's verses geared MTB's. Since the goal of racing is
>to be the fastest, racing results would appear to provide some
>indication of relative performance.
>
>> you don't see recumbents winning any
>> mountain bike races, but some people still think they're somehow fun or useful[.]
>
>Class, can we say RED HERRING?
Well, yeah. That's what I was trying to point out. Mazda Miatas don't win any
indy car races but are a hell of a lot more fun on the street than an indy car
would be. So would you say it was silly to buy one for its performance.
Of course geared bikes are faster, didn't we establish that almost a hundred
years ago. Just because something is faster doesn't mean it's more fun.
The irony of all of this is that we the Bike-God-Dorks of RBT see how silly it
is that so many riders buy gear based on racing needs that have nothing whatever
to do with the riding they actually do, yet when a bike shows up that is clearly
intended for caroming through the woods and having fun one of the first
questions asked is "can you win a race on it." As if this were the measure of a
bike.
Ron