bobbyOCR said:
Alfeng. Does the alternate cable-route allow the use of a Shimano rear end with a set of '06 centaur shifters. That grey would match the SL01, lighten it up and give me the dumping power for the upcoming crits.
One ting, how are campy ergonomics, they look lumpy and uncomfortable. Is the _______/-\ shape because its longer than Shimano's? That is theonly thing holding me back.
Also, DON'T GET KSYRIUMS. They are the most overrated, overhyped wheel you can get. They have the aerodynamics of a 32 15g wheelset, they are flexy, and they are overpriced. Take a look at Neuvations, ROL, Excelsports custom wheels or any campy wheels.
All of the
10-speed Campagnolo shifters have the SAME indexing ... so, the
hubbub.com alternate cable anchoring will work with the 2006 Centaur shifters +
XTR 950/952 rear derailleur and
any 9-speed Shimano cassette.
Despite what many people believe, there is a difference in geometry of the different Shimano rear derailleurs -- 10-speed, 9-speed ROAD, 8-speed ROAD, and MTB rear derailleurs -- but, there is enough micro-imprecision in the indexing that the 8-/9-speed rear derailleurs are apparently interchangeable; but, the slight variance is why Shimano undoubtedly mandated that parts NOT be intermixed from different groups.
A 9-speed XT rear derailleur was (surprisingly) unsatisfactory when trying to use the hubbub.com alternate anchoring during a quick test (i.e., "failed" installation), but I didn't spend a lot of time with it to ascertain why (i.e., I might not have properlly anchored the derailleur cable) and reverted to installing an XTR rear derailleur ...
The 8-speed MTB & 8-speed ROAD rear derailleurs appear to have the same geometry ...
The 8-speed (950) & 9-speed (952) XTR rear derailleurs have the same geometry, and the signicant difference was the change from 10t pulleys to 11t pulleys.
The anchor point on the 10-speed Shimano rear IS different, and closely mimics that of the Campagnolo rear derailleur ... and, my quickie observation is that the 10-speed Shimano rear derailleur is interechangeable for a current Campagnolo rear derailleur (i.e., I put a 6600 rear derailleur on a 9-speed ERGO shifter and mated it to a 9-speed Campagnolo cassette ... at least, I think I did for that moment in time).
YOUR RESULTS MAY VARY!
Ultimately, a lot depends on which Shimano rear derailleur you want to mate to which cassette (9-speed or 10-speed).
For example, to index a 6500 (9-speed Ultegra) ROAD rear derailleur with a 9-speed Shimano cassette, I needed to use the hubbub.com alternate anchor position and a 9-speed Campagnolo shifter.
A lot of people just resort to a
JTEK Shiftmate, and that is a good alternative (but as expensive as most rear derailleurs!) if you don't have the "collection" of rear derailleurs to mess around with to try to find the optimum combination.
BTW. When using the hubbub.com anchoring, it helps to hold the derailleur cable's "end" with a pair of pliers (which I do, regardless) while fiddling with the anchor "washer."
Now, as far as different hood shapes of the different shifters -- the reach & shape WERE a concern for me, too, before I made the switch from the Shimano & Campagnolo shifters...
BUT, I think you will wonder what your concern was AFTER you use the Campagnolo shifters for a few rides.
If your riding position is dialed-in, then the ONE thing you may need to consider is either a slightly shorter stem OR adjusting your handlebars (rotate them DOWN) so that you can mount the Campagnolo shifters further back on the bend OR use different bars ...
This brings up a minor (but, not really) point about so-called frame-fit ... it generally doesn't seem to take into account the fact that different bars have different forward reach as well as a different drop AND that the bend has a signficant effect on where the brake levers are mounted. Further, MOST Shimano levers seem to be mounted too low & forward on the bars TO ME ... but, I guess that is a matter of personal preference. Several years ago, I deduced by trial-and-error that having the rear of the rise of the Shimano brake lever being almost vertical (and the name plate almost horizontal) was the most comfortable FOR ME ... the appearance seemed odd when compared with the fresh-from-the-shop positioning, but then I noticed that a lot of tour riders had come to the same conclusion, so that is how I set them up.
BLAH, Blah, blah ...
Anway, I try to set up ALL my bikes the same regardless of the frame size ... I set the saddle fore-and-aft AND THEN I measure forward to establish the reach for when I am riding on the hoods ... consequently, the stem length is used to adjust for different bars & levers to a variance of about 1/4 inch (
that's close enough for me) between several different bikes.
So,
BEFORE you switch to Campagnolo levers, measure the distance from the rear of YOUR saddle to the back of the hood's "vertical" rise to ensure that the TRUE reach you end up with is the same!
BTW. When installing the ERGO levers, I suggest that you run/route BOTH cable housings in FRONT of the bars (ignore the rear groove, if your bars have them) ... there seems to be less resistance (for me) when the derailleur cable housing is laid above the brake cable housing than when using the REAR routing.
FWIW. I agree with your impression regarding the Ksyrium SSL wheels -- they look nice, but they are really high maintenance ... if anyone gets them, then I strongly recommend one of MAVIC's metal spoke wrenches since the plastic one is probably good for only two-or-three spoke adjustments before it fails/strips.