I Just Talked To My Surgeon....................

Discussion in 'Food and nutrition' started by Laureen, Jul 13, 2005.

  1. Laureen

    Laureen Guest

    A couple of people in here have emailed me privately and along with my
    husband have expressed concern about my rapid weightloss. 128 lbs in
    5.5 months, so I called my surgeon this morning and he returned my
    call. He said my weight loss is fine. When I addressed the issue of how
    my heart is handling it he told me this: "You had no evidence of heart
    trouble via your cardiac enzyme test to see if you had had a heart
    attack, your EKG for any abnormalities, your chest Xray for enlarged
    heart or lung trouble, nor from your stress test post operatively and I
    dont suspect you're having trouble right now. Not to worry, you've been
    a star patient and at the rate your going I think when you see me in
    Feb you will be at goal" (BTW, his goal is 237ish with a 44% reduction
    in total body weight) My goal is 180 to 190. I also reminded him that I
    had surgery a month ago and have drank down gallons of soup to keep
    stools small and thin thus causing the excelerated weight loss
    Thank you for your concern everyone and I am ok!

    Laureen
    410/282/180
     
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  2. No, you're not.

    --
    Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW


    "Laureen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    >
    > Thank you for your concern everyone and I am ok!
    >
    > Laureen
    > 410/282/180
    >
     
  3. Nicky

    Nicky Guest

    "Laureen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > Thank you for your concern everyone and I am ok!


    Good to hear. Keep it up, please! : )

    Nicky.

    --
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    1g Metformin, 100ug Thyroxine
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  4. Laureen wrote:
    > A couple of people in here have emailed me privately and along with my
    > husband have expressed concern about my rapid weightloss. 128 lbs in
    > 5.5 months, so I called my surgeon this morning and he returned my
    > call. He said my weight loss is fine.


    Of course he will say that. Do you think he would say anything
    different? To him you are a success. But he also has no clue what your
    nutritional status is and isn't trained to think that way.


    > When I addressed the issue of how
    > my heart is handling it he told me this: "You had no evidence of heart
    > trouble via your cardiac enzyme test to see if you had had a heart
    > attack, your EKG for any abnormalities, your chest Xray for enlarged
    > heart or lung trouble, nor from your stress test post operatively and I
    > dont suspect you're having trouble right now.


    Covering his ass. He did the required tests so he is off the hook when
    you keel over.

    > Not to worry, you've been
    > a star patient and at the rate your going I think when you see me in
    > Feb you will be at goal" (BTW, his goal is 237ish with a 44% reduction
    > in total body weight) My goal is 180 to 190. I also reminded him that I
    > had surgery a month ago and have drank down gallons of soup to keep
    > stools small and thin thus causing the excelerated weight loss
    > Thank you for your concern everyone and I am ok!
    >
    > Laureen
    > 410/282/180


    Flattery will do amazing things for vain people.

    TC
     
  5. Laureen

    Laureen Guest

    I see you're still the same old negative shit you have always been!

    [email protected] wrote:
    > Laureen wrote:
    > > A couple of people in here have emailed me privately and along with my
    > > husband have expressed concern about my rapid weightloss. 128 lbs in
    > > 5.5 months, so I called my surgeon this morning and he returned my
    > > call. He said my weight loss is fine.

    >
    > Of course he will say that. Do you think he would say anything
    > different? To him you are a success. But he also has no clue what your
    > nutritional status is and isn't trained to think that way.
    >
    >
    > > When I addressed the issue of how
    > > my heart is handling it he told me this: "You had no evidence of heart
    > > trouble via your cardiac enzyme test to see if you had had a heart
    > > attack, your EKG for any abnormalities, your chest Xray for enlarged
    > > heart or lung trouble, nor from your stress test post operatively and I
    > > dont suspect you're having trouble right now.

    >
    > Covering his ass. He did the required tests so he is off the hook when
    > you keel over.
    >
    > > Not to worry, you've been
    > > a star patient and at the rate your going I think when you see me in
    > > Feb you will be at goal" (BTW, his goal is 237ish with a 44% reduction
    > > in total body weight) My goal is 180 to 190. I also reminded him that I
    > > had surgery a month ago and have drank down gallons of soup to keep
    > > stools small and thin thus causing the excelerated weight loss
    > > Thank you for your concern everyone and I am ok!
    > >
    > > Laureen
    > > 410/282/180

    >
    > Flattery will do amazing things for vain people.
    >
    > TC
     
  6. Marengo

    Marengo Guest

    [email protected] wrote:
    || Laureen wrote:
    ||| A couple of people in here have emailed me privately and along with
    ||| my husband have expressed concern about my rapid weightloss. 128
    ||| lbs in
    ||| 5.5 months, so I called my surgeon this morning and he returned my
    ||| call. He said my weight loss is fine.
    ||
    || Of course he will say that. Do you think he would say anything
    || different? To him you are a success. But he also has no clue what
    || your nutritional status is and isn't trained to think that way.
    ||
    ||
    ||| When I addressed the issue of how
    ||| my heart is handling it he told me this: "You had no evidence of
    ||| heart trouble via your cardiac enzyme test to see if you had had a
    ||| heart attack, your EKG for any abnormalities, your chest Xray for
    ||| enlarged heart or lung trouble, nor from your stress test post
    ||| operatively and I dont suspect you're having trouble right now.
    ||
    || Covering his ass. He did the required tests so he is off the hook
    || when you keel over.
    ||
    ||| Not to worry, you've been
    ||| a star patient and at the rate your going I think when you see me in
    ||| Feb you will be at goal" (BTW, his goal is 237ish with a 44%
    ||| reduction in total body weight) My goal is 180 to 190. I also
    ||| reminded him that I had surgery a month ago and have drank down
    ||| gallons of soup to keep stools small and thin thus causing the
    ||| excelerated weight loss
    ||| Thank you for your concern everyone and I am ok!
    |||
    ||| Laureen
    ||| 410/282/180
    ||
    || Flattery will do amazing things for vain people.
    ||

    || TC
    Do you honestly believe that you -- a casual internet acquaintance -- know
    more about Laureen's condition than her surgeon -- a medical professional
    who has been working closely with her for months?

    If this weren't so sophomoric it would actually be laughable!

    Peter
     
  7. Marengo

    Marengo Guest

    Laureen wrote:
    || I see you're still the same old negative shit you have always been!
    ||
    || [email protected] wrote:
    ||| Laureen wrote:
    |||| A couple of people in here have emailed me privately and along
    |||| with my husband have expressed concern about my rapid weightloss.
    |||| 128 lbs in
    |||| 5.5 months, so I called my surgeon this morning and he returned my
    |||| call. He said my weight loss is fine.
    |||
    ||| Of course he will say that. Do you think he would say anything
    ||| different? To him you are a success. But he also has no clue what
    ||| your nutritional status is and isn't trained to think that way.
    |||| Laureen
    |||| 410/282/180
    |||
    ||| TC

    Laureen, you should show this post to your surgeon. I'm sure he'd get a
    kick out of the fact that this mindless dipshit thinks that a surgeon who
    specializes in gastric bypass has no knowledge of nutrition and isn't
    trained in it.

    Peter
     
  8. Marengo wrote:
    > [email protected] wrote:
    > || Laureen wrote:
    > ||| A couple of people in here have emailed me privately and along with
    > ||| my husband have expressed concern about my rapid weightloss. 128
    > ||| lbs in
    > ||| 5.5 months, so I called my surgeon this morning and he returned my
    > ||| call. He said my weight loss is fine.
    > ||
    > || Of course he will say that. Do you think he would say anything
    > || different? To him you are a success. But he also has no clue what
    > || your nutritional status is and isn't trained to think that way.
    > ||
    > ||
    > ||| When I addressed the issue of how
    > ||| my heart is handling it he told me this: "You had no evidence of
    > ||| heart trouble via your cardiac enzyme test to see if you had had a
    > ||| heart attack, your EKG for any abnormalities, your chest Xray for
    > ||| enlarged heart or lung trouble, nor from your stress test post
    > ||| operatively and I dont suspect you're having trouble right now.
    > ||
    > || Covering his ass. He did the required tests so he is off the hook
    > || when you keel over.
    > ||
    > ||| Not to worry, you've been
    > ||| a star patient and at the rate your going I think when you see me in
    > ||| Feb you will be at goal" (BTW, his goal is 237ish with a 44%
    > ||| reduction in total body weight) My goal is 180 to 190. I also
    > ||| reminded him that I had surgery a month ago and have drank down
    > ||| gallons of soup to keep stools small and thin thus causing the
    > ||| excelerated weight loss
    > ||| Thank you for your concern everyone and I am ok!
    > |||
    > ||| Laureen
    > ||| 410/282/180
    > ||
    > || Flattery will do amazing things for vain people.
    > ||
    >
    > || TC
    > Do you honestly believe that you -- a casual internet acquaintance -- know
    > more about Laureen's condition than her surgeon -- a medical professional
    > who has been working closely with her for months?
    >
    > If this weren't so sophomoric it would actually be laughable!
    >
    > Peter


    If he knew anything about basic nutrition, he would know that gastric
    bypasses are completely unnecessary.

    TC
     
  9. <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    >
    >
    >>
    >> || TC
    >> Do you honestly believe that you -- a casual internet acquaintance --
    >> know
    >> more about Laureen's condition than her surgeon -- a medical professional
    >> who has been working closely with her for months?
    >>
    >> If this weren't so sophomoric it would actually be laughable!
    >>
    >> Peter

    >
    > If he knew anything about basic nutrition, he would know that gastric
    > bypasses are completely unnecessary.
    >
    > TC
    >


    Spot on.
     
  10. Marengo wrote:
    > Laureen wrote:
    > || I see you're still the same old negative shit you have always been!
    > ||
    > || [email protected] wrote:
    > ||| Laureen wrote:
    > |||| A couple of people in here have emailed me privately and along
    > |||| with my husband have expressed concern about my rapid weightloss.
    > |||| 128 lbs in
    > |||| 5.5 months, so I called my surgeon this morning and he returned my
    > |||| call. He said my weight loss is fine.
    > |||
    > ||| Of course he will say that. Do you think he would say anything
    > ||| different? To him you are a success. But he also has no clue what
    > ||| your nutritional status is and isn't trained to think that way.
    > |||| Laureen
    > |||| 410/282/180
    > |||
    > ||| TC
    >
    > Laureen, you should show this post to your surgeon. I'm sure he'd get a
    > kick out of the fact that this mindless dipshit thinks that a surgeon who
    > specializes in gastric bypass has no knowledge of nutrition and isn't
    > trained in it.
    >
    > Peter


    Better yet, Loreen should ask him exactly how many hours of course work
    he's had in his curriculum at med school. Ask to see his transcripts
    and see how many course he took on nutrition and what his marks were.

    My bet is that he may have gotten one very basic nutrition course in
    his junior year. If he got that.

    TC
     
  11. Marsha

    Marsha Guest

    [email protected] wrote:

    > Marengo wrote:
    >>
    >>Laureen, you should show this post to your surgeon. I'm sure he'd get a
    >>kick out of the fact that this mindless dipshit thinks that a surgeon who
    >>specializes in gastric bypass has no knowledge of nutrition and isn't
    >>trained in it.
    >>

    >
    >
    > Better yet, Loreen should ask him exactly how many hours of course work
    > he's had in his curriculum at med school. Ask to see his transcripts
    > and see how many course he took on nutrition and what his marks were.
    >
    > My bet is that he may have gotten one very basic nutrition course in
    > his junior year. If he got that.
    >
    > TC
    >


    That's just about the number of hours some of them
    get in handwriting and bedside manners.

    Marsha/Ohio
     
  12. FOB

    FOB Guest

    Nutrition as it relates to gastric bypass surgery is different than general
    nutrition. I'm sure that as part of his study for his specialty which
    likely was derived in specialized training by other surgeons, not in a
    university setting, and part of his ongoing experience with his practice, he
    has considerable knowledge about the nutrition side of his practice.

    In news:[email protected],
    [email protected] <[email protected]> stated
    |
    | Better yet, Loreen should ask him exactly how many hours of course
    | work he's had in his curriculum at med school. Ask to see his
    | transcripts and see how many course he took on nutrition and what his
    | marks were.
    |
    | My bet is that he may have gotten one very basic nutrition course in
    | his junior year. If he got that.
    |
    | TC
     
  13. You are guessing/hoping/trusting.

    We'll see when Laureen comes back and reports on what answers she gets
    from the doctor himself.

    Check out any university website that offers a med curriculum. Their
    curriculums may have a single introductory course in their junior year.
    You only get more nutritional training if you specialize specifically
    in nutrition. And that training is skewed towards demonizing fats and
    accepting carbs as great food because most universities are funded by
    major food or agriculturally based industries.

    TC

    FOB wrote:
    > Nutrition as it relates to gastric bypass surgery is different than general
    > nutrition. I'm sure that as part of his study for his specialty which
    > likely was derived in specialized training by other surgeons, not in a
    > university setting, and part of his ongoing experience with his practice, he
    > has considerable knowledge about the nutrition side of his practice.
    >
    > In news:[email protected],
    > [email protected] <[email protected]> stated
    > |
    > | Better yet, Loreen should ask him exactly how many hours of course
    > | work he's had in his curriculum at med school. Ask to see his
    > | transcripts and see how many course he took on nutrition and what his
    > | marks were.
    > |
    > | My bet is that he may have gotten one very basic nutrition course in
    > | his junior year. If he got that.
    > |
    > | TC
     
  14. Sherry wrote:
    > "FOB" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:f%[email protected]
    > > Nutrition as it relates to gastric bypass surgery is different than

    > general
    > > nutrition. I'm sure that as part of his study for his specialty which
    > > likely was derived in specialized training by other surgeons, not in a
    > > university setting, and part of his ongoing experience with his practice,

    > he
    > > has considerable knowledge about the nutrition side of his practice.

    >
    > Yes, but a stranger on usenet would know so much more!
    > --
    > Sherry
    > low carb since 4/3/05
    > 364/315/195
    > http://lowcarb.owly.net


    I would venture that with what you've learned by reading about low
    carb, you have better knowledge of nutrition than most medical doctors.

    TC
     
  15. FOB

    FOB Guest

    I know how specialists train, they go to special seminars, they don't depend
    on things they learn in Med school

    In news:[email protected],
    [email protected] <[email protected]> stated
    | You are guessing/hoping/trusting.
    |
    | We'll see when Laureen comes back and reports on what answers she gets
    | from the doctor himself.
    |
    | Check out any university website that offers a med curriculum. Their
    | curriculums may have a single introductory course in their junior
    | year. You only get more nutritional training if you specialize
    | specifically in nutrition. And that training is skewed towards
    | demonizing fats and accepting carbs as great food because most
    | universities are funded by major food or agriculturally based
    | industries.
    |
    | TC
    |
     
  16. FOB

    FOB Guest

  17. How do you know that? From what i gather he's just a surgeon.

    TC

    FOB wrote:
    > But this isn't an ordinary doctor, this is a weight loss specialist.
    >
    > In news:[email protected],
    > [email protected] <[email protected]> stated
    > || http://lowcarb.owly.net
    > |
    > | I would venture that with what you've learned by reading about low
    > | carb, you have better knowledge of nutrition than most medical
    > | doctors.
    > |
    > | TC
     
  18. Sherry

    Sherry Guest

    "FOB" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:f%[email protected]
    > Nutrition as it relates to gastric bypass surgery is different than

    general
    > nutrition. I'm sure that as part of his study for his specialty which
    > likely was derived in specialized training by other surgeons, not in a
    > university setting, and part of his ongoing experience with his practice,

    he
    > has considerable knowledge about the nutrition side of his practice.


    Yes, but a stranger on usenet would know so much more!
    --
    Sherry
    low carb since 4/3/05
    364/315/195
    http://lowcarb.owly.net
     
  19. FOB

    FOB Guest

  20. Laureen,

    I am glad you are doing so well. I was wondering, though---when was the last
    time you had labs done. ie.. CBC, etc? I think 125 lbs in 5.5months is an
    extreme amt of of weight. I was bulimic in my weight lifting days due to
    family issues( I had never in my life been over weight till this last few
    years), and due to that, it has caused havoc on my heart. I now take at
    least 40mg of Lasix a day and have to have my potassium checked once a
    month. I also take a prescribed potassium supp. Along with that test, my dr
    orders a complete CBC count every 3months. There are so many things that can
    be "hidden" in ones health. I just had an echocardiogram on thursday. Have
    you had one of these since your surgery? Please take care of yourself. It
    would not hurt for you to have these tests.

    Hugs.

    "Laureen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    >A couple of people in here have emailed me privately and along with my
    > husband have expressed concern about my rapid weightloss. 128 lbs in
    > 5.5 months, so I called my surgeon this morning and he returned my
    > call. He said my weight loss is fine. When I addressed the issue of how
    > my heart is handling it he told me this: "You had no evidence of heart
    > trouble via your cardiac enzyme test to see if you had had a heart
    > attack, your EKG for any abnormalities, your chest Xray for enlarged
    > heart or lung trouble, nor from your stress test post operatively and I
    > dont suspect you're having trouble right now. Not to worry, you've been
    > a star patient and at the rate your going I think when you see me in
    > Feb you will be at goal" (BTW, his goal is 237ish with a 44% reduction
    > in total body weight) My goal is 180 to 190. I also reminded him that I
    > had surgery a month ago and have drank down gallons of soup to keep
    > stools small and thin thus causing the excelerated weight loss
    > Thank you for your concern everyone and I am ok!
    >
    > Laureen
    > 410/282/180
    >
     
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