On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 17:30:19 -0600,
[email protected] wrote:
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>Rich ! Take a breath. I don't want to read all that past history between the two of you.
It has nothing to do with a personal argument or past history. I was responding to your assertion
that Jan has provided "information" about her mercury amalgam history. It was *misinformation*,
better characterized as lies. Jan cannot dispute any of it. Her only responses have been to try to
discredit me by calling me a liar and a stalker.
Did you read what I reposted about what Jan said?? If so it is clear that she lied about her
amalgam history in order to deceive people that she had mercury poisoning. The reason I quote her
exactly is so that there would be no confusion about what she said.
>If you have a deal to work out with Jan, work it out. If she is unwilling to see it your way, then
>let it go.
I am not interested in changing Jan Drew's mind about anything. I am interested in not allowing Jan
to falsely claim that she had mercury poisoning so that someone else does not unnecessarily have
their amalgams out. You obviously are not interested in the truth but in protecting the liar Jan
Drew. It says much about your own integrity.
You snipped the proof that Jan Drew lied. Here it is again:
Jan lied several times regarding her amalgam history in order to deceive others that she really had
mercury poisoning when what she actually had was a deterioration in her preexisting illness
(peripheral neuropathy) secondary to psychologic factors (worrying obsessively about having mercury
poisoning due to reading about it in Hulda Clark book). She also had a dramatic improvement due to
psychologic factors (relief that the removal of amalgams eliminated the mercury poisoning).
Now Jan drew ADMITTED in HER OWN WORDS that the reason she went from thinking that she was dying of
mercury poisoning one day and feeling better than she had the next day within hours of having some
amalgams removed was completely due to relief. Now I will allow Jan Drew to tell you her in own
words that her improvement was due to relief:
Here are her exact words posted on June 18th, 1999 to usenet
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>>I have been reading this thread. I have peripheral neuropathy. I have found a dentist
>>(alternative) who knows that mercury amalgams are very dangerous. They can cause all manner of
>>things. He will remove them and put in composities. I have just had 3/4 of mine remover. The
>>others will come out in a few weeks, along with the one root canal, which will be extracted.
>
>>If an individual has read on this subject and is knowledgable, he will take care of you.
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>>He has written "Tooth Truth and tells it like it is. He tells how the ADA has covered up this
>>problem.
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>>So, it is just a matter of finding the right dentist. He has people flying in from all over to get
>>the work done.
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>>I believe the mercury is the cause of my problems. I hav felt better today that I have in the last
>>2 years, and am looking forward to getting the rest of the mercury out and the root canal pulled.
>
>>Jan
And now the admission that this improvement was due to relief:
Here are her exact words:
>Rich for the LAST time, I said I felt better than I had in two years. That was very true. I had
>been very very ill and my health was deteriorating fast. After much reading and research I was
>convinced it was my teeth. I wasn't absolutely positivity 100% sure, but it all fit together and I
>knew I had to do something. It wasn't easy, what if it didn't work? That was very stressful.
>Finally all the work was done, the metal was out, the bill was paid, I didn't have to sit in the
>dentist chairs for hours with a rubber dam in my mouth!!!!!!!!!! Of course I was very relieved. A
>big big burden was lifted. That makes one FEEL BETTER.
>
>What's so hard to understand?
All the work was done??? A lie. The work was not completed until weeks later. Jan Drew even posted
that her dental work was not done until July 11, 1999.
And now for more lies. Jan Drew told two egregious lies that were told solely to deceive people into
thinking that she really had mercury poisoning.
The first is on June 26 ,1999 just a week after she had eight amalgams removed. She claimed that ALL
her feet pain went away and she was able to go out line dancing because she was no longer getting a
daily dose of mercury. This is a complete lie and Jan knew it. On June 26, 1999 Jan still had more
amalgams to be removed and they would not be removed until July 11, 1999 by Jan's own admission. You
see Jan has difficulty keeping her lies straight.
But let us have Jan Drew tell us in her own words:
>On 26 Jun 1999, JDrew63929 wrote:
>> >AF says *** More childish nonsense from poor, sick old Jan.
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>>
>> Well, Jan is doing fine, even went line dancing tonight! Guess that tells you something about
>> my feet..
>> >
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>This simply proves that your "neuralgia" is significantly the product of a somatization disorder.
>Mercury accumulates in the body, and there is no way having your fillings removed a week or two
>back could have instantly eliminated all mercury toxicity effects. It would take months or even
>years for the benefits to occur, if the problem really was mercury toxicity. So if pulling your
>fillings instantly cured your feet, we have a very solid case here that your "neuralgia" was
>psychosomatic.
>>You are way off base here. I didn't say I was instantly cured. The detoxing that I have done is a
>>major factor in my recovery. Yes, I will continue to do it for quite some time to remove the
>>mercury from my body. I am feeling much better, because I am not receiving a new dose of mercury
>>each day. The elimination of 8 mercury amalgams has made a difference. Nothing psychosomatic
>>about it.
Nothing psychosomatic about it?!!?!?!?!?!?!? It was completely psychosomatic. Jan Drew's mercury
level at the time she made this statement was the highest in her life since she had eight amalgams
removed over a two day period only a week before.
The second lie is when she posted to sci.med.dentisty that the reason she knows that it was the
mercury in her mouth that caused her health problems was because she did not *begin* to regain her
health until *after* the mercury level dropped. Not only is this a complete lie and Jan knows it but
the complete opposite is true.
Jan Drew began to regain her health when her mercury level was the highest in her entire life. That
is right. When Jan Drew reported dramatic improvement in her health (ie better than she felt in two
years, and being able to line dance due to all the pain gone) her mercury level had not dropped and
was likely the highest in her life because this improvement occurred from hours to a week after her
amalgams were removed.
The reason that alternative dentists recommend slow removal of amalgams (some as posted by Jan Drew
suggest removing no more than one amalgam every three months) is because the removal of the amalgams
results in vaporization of mercury which even with perfect protocol will result in absorption into
the body of large amounts of mercury.
So on June 18 and 19, 1999 Jan had eight amalgams removed. On June 19, 1999 Jan said she felt better
than she had in two years.
On June 26, 1999 Jan said that she was able to go out line dancing because all her foot pain was
gone. Of course the pain only was gone for a short time because it was likely a placebo effect
due to her RELIEF that the mercury was coming out of her mouth. Just like she felt better than
she did in two years due to relief (by her OWN admission) she was able to go out line dancing a
week later when the absorption of mercury into her tissues from blood likely resulted in the
highest level in her life.
But Jan said that she knows it was the metal in her mouth because she did not BEGIN to regain her
health until AFTER her mercury level dropped. A complete lie and the pathologic liar Jan Drew knows
it. This is why she kill filed me. This is why she lies about me being a liar and a stalker. Jan
Drew knows that I exposed her lies and she refuses to admit it. She is a despicable human being
whose sole purpose in life is to shill for alternative dentists and to perpetuate the lie that she
had mercury poisoning from amalgams. She did not and the proof is in her own words.
Jan Drew will not respond to any of the points in this post. Instead she will pretend she is not
reading them and then personally attack me in order to discredit me. Just watch.
That's a wrap.
Aloha,
Rich
>When you want to be a great man in life, you'll learn how to create more Harmony in the midst of
>potential chaos.
I find it highly ironic that you don't confront Jan Drew about her creating chaos by her lies,
falsely calling other liars and trying to derail almost every discussion in this newsgroup. Again it
speaks to your agenda and/or lack of integrity.
Aloha, Rich
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>Mike
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