Ibuprofen before Vo2 max workouts? You too?

Discussion in 'Cycling Training' started by tonyzackery, Nov 4, 2008.

  1. tonyzackery

    tonyzackery Well-Known Member

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    Magnanimous words indeed...

    For the most part, this exercise has been A LOT of fun...you just never know what'll come out from under a rock until you turn it over...:D
     


  2. Hitchy

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    ...as we've discovered!
     
  3. parawolf

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    I think the point here is that the majority of people think that using NSAIDs to aid your ability to 'suffer' through training is a bad concept.

    You still think it is good. End of story.

    Remember you have to have an open mind to listen to other peoples thoughts; but not so open that your brains fall out.

    Sounds like your brains fell out in the NFL change room back in the late 80's and some janitor scooped them into the waste rather than lost property.
     
  4. swampy1970

    swampy1970 Well-Known Member

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    You might go with b) which is good for the most part, but if you race at the weekends then you're going to have to get some time training in a) too, otherwise you're not going to be having too much fun.

    Personally, where it gets 40+C down here, I didn't notice a huge difference in time taken to climb the big hills Vs heart rate when riding just after dawn or early afternoon the only major difference I see is the water bottles don't last as long (summer training I take two big bottles on the bike and two under the saddle) and the stinging sweat in my eyes.
     
  5. Felt_Rider

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    It seems with my past that the only thing I don't have a lifetime ban maybe the Computrainer Timetrial competition. I better get in before they change the rules. :)
     
  6. tonyzackery

    tonyzackery Well-Known Member

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    LOL! Now THAT was funny!!:D I'll simply just ignore you going forward as with your intellectual inability, this is an unfair fight...
     
  7. tonyzackery

    tonyzackery Well-Known Member

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    For all of you that just can't wait for the next installment of this fascinating docu-drama, my next time trial is tomorrow. I'll keep you in suspense with regard to whether or not I'll be taking Ibuprofen beforehand...:D

    My Ibuprofen dealer has been upset lately though as I haven't been using during the week:( - no Vo2 max workouts...she sees her sales dropping...oh well, is it possible the naysayers have got to me??????
     
  8. Felt_Rider

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    Does your dealer have Mucinex in inventory?

    This weekend I see me using a dose or two of Mucinex to enhance breathing performance, however, I think it will quickly impact my turns up front once my group starts to witness the relief of the chest congestion.

    After this weekend Mucinex may become a banned substance within my group or I may be banned.:)
     
  9. tonyzackery

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    I must be famous, or is that infamous???:D There is current parody and satire of which my query is the subject. I hope they're sending the royalty checks soon because my Ibuprofen habit (what's left of it, I guess) is still pretty costly...

    I'll still let my fans know how the TT goes tomorrow - with or without Ibuprofen. Now THAT is the question...seeeeee yaaaaa:D
     
  10. Crankyfeet

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    Tony... you really are able to get people offside and worked up in double quick time. People who just see you like you see them... a forum handle the same as the next guy. Either you are very sensitive... or you're mistaking debate for personal attack. Parawolf made a point that seemed reasonable. Jono just backed it up when you attacked it. And whilst someone's excellent cycling palmares and ability don't make someone a good person, considering Jono_L is probably twice as good as the next best cyclist on this forum (he has represented Australia in international competition), he might have something beneficial to add to the discussion if you just listen a bit, instead of jumping to a derisive post.

    I didn't interpret your original post as saying that you only wanted yes/no answers. And even if you did... what's the harm of anyone challenging the practice? If a doctor posted that you could risk serious organ damage hypothetically.... would you just reject the advice as being off-topic? Do you feel you have all the information in the world on the effects of Ibuprofen? Are you using it in competition as well? Is getting into forum conflicts one of your main reasons for posting?
     
  11. tonyzackery

    tonyzackery Well-Known Member

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    Another magnanimous post...Thanks...:D
    You're just a bit too wordy for me, so I'll let this go...
     
  12. Crankyfeet

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    Yes... that's why you're not responding. :D
     
  13. Crankyfeet

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    I know you weren't saying this... but since you brought it up:

    Ibuprofen diminishes sexual sensation.

    Just saying. Try it if you don't believe me. It's great for preventing hangovers however if taken before going to sleep. And it can cause kidney damage if overused (a doctor has told me). But I don't have any research to back up the last claim.
     
  14. Jono L

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    Having trouble with the long sentences are we?

    I'll spell it out for, you see the previous 6 pages of crap posted here, you wanna know what the problem is?

    It's YOU.

    Jesus there's pig headed then there's pig headed..I bet no one wanted to be on your debating team at high school.
     
  15. Jono L

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    That's what I'm struggling to get Crankster, little innocent ol' Parawolf was merely suggesting a reason why he wouldn't do it, and somehow that was interpreted as a personal vendetta against mr angry himself. I just don't get how zackery managed to create such hostility...I mean how dare we have a differing opinion and invoke a little debate on a public forum!!
     
  16. Crankyfeet

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    Your ongoing "study" is worthless if you are slowly damaging your kidneys leading to renal failure. AFAIK... symptoms won't be felt until it is too late.
     
  17. Crankyfeet

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    Tony, Tony, Tony.... I've finally read from page 2 of this thread onwards. You really have to be RIGHT don't you. Some of the qualifications of those giving advice in this thread are so substantial... its actually very funny seeing you arguing with them. I've seen you argue about what is important in training with a national cyclist... ridicule the integrity and position in life of another top junior cyclist... reject the advice of two cycling coaches, one with an international reputation ... not accept any of the points made by a PHD exercise physiologist with deep involvement in cycling. All these qualified people gave you advice that differed a little from your world view (or clashed with your dependency maybe)... and you have not taken in one point or accepted that they might have anything to offer that may augment or alter your obvious "fountain" of knowledge. And the risk of these qualified people being right...could be severe negative health effects. And these are only the qualifications of the people I know. I suspect Dave (quoted below) is very, very qualified... judging from his posts here and from what I've read of his posts elsewhere.

    The ONLY piece of advice you have appreciated in the thread so far...was from one of your prior supporting partners in pointless passive-aggressive forum arguments who advised of more drugs that you can take.

    On the other hand Tony, I am not filled with faith that you really have that much knowledge at all... mainly derived from your observed penchant to resist and reject anything that disagrees with your views without seemingly any evaluation. Anyone with that attitude is not going to take in much. But... each to his own.

    The refusal to even consider advice that favors questioning the taking of a substance, is also a behavioral symptom of dependency. Be careful.

    Now go ahead and put me too on "ignore". What a handy function for a person who wants to be able to put his hands over his ears and make noises to avoid hearing others that disagree with him.

    Ciao.


     
  18. 3rensho

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    Just carry a gun during the workout and if you feel any pain shoot the part that hurts.
     
  19. tonyzackery

    tonyzackery Well-Known Member

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    LOL! What's really FUNNY is you guys with your panties all bunched up and MAD at me...and for what??? Because I won't say "OK, you're right, I'll stop using Ibuprofen...:D I'm not going to bother responding to you individually at this point, I'll just let you all fume and think you've won some debate...LOL! You guys "owned" (that's the term nowadays, right?) me on this one...

    I must really be important for people to get so worked up. Maybe you guys are on the payroll for Tylenol (Acetaminophen) and you're mad because I'm not touting your product...yeah, that's it...gotta be...

    Oh yeah, I'll STILL let you know the results of the TT this afternoon...
     
  20. root

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    Taking any kind of pain killer while training is a bad idea, since the drug can mask the pain from injury, strain etc, leading to even worse injury, esp. if the reason you took the pain killer in the first place is pain from injury :D.
     
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