idiotic SMSing anticyclist **** in MXForum tonight
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Tamyka Bell
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Euan wrote:
>
> >>>>> "aeek" == aeek <[email protected]> writes:
>
> aeek> flyingdutch Wrote:
> >> A sample of spleen venting by today's idiots of choice..
> >>
> >> "Maybe cyclists should abide by all road rules instead of just
> >> the ones that suit them" * Rob Blackburn
> >>
> >> *this little black cycling duck is sick of getting stereotyped by
> >> cyclists who run red lights...
>
> aeek> seriously, does anyone else sometimes feel caught between road
> aeek> rules and having to choose which to strictly obey and which to
> aeek> bend?
>
> In all seriousness, no. I cycle in pretty much the same manner I drive.
>
> The most common mistake I see other cyclists on the road make is not
> cycling far enough out from the kerb. I can't remember the last time I
> had a motorist driving any vehicle pass me in a manner that I'd consider
> too close. I attribute that to cycling at minimum one meter from the
> kerb. The narrower the lane, the more of it I take up.
Come join us on our daily journey through Mt Gravatt, Euan.
It's the funnest section of road ever... Doesn't matter what you do,
some w@nker in a cage is going to overtake without fully changing lanes
and then cut back across before they're clear. I can't remember the last
time I DIDN'T have this happen. Driving in the RHS of the lane means
that as they cut me off, I can start to veer left without concern...
Tam
>
> >>>>> "aeek" == aeek <[email protected]> writes:
>
> aeek> flyingdutch Wrote:
> >> A sample of spleen venting by today's idiots of choice..
> >>
> >> "Maybe cyclists should abide by all road rules instead of just
> >> the ones that suit them" * Rob Blackburn
> >>
> >> *this little black cycling duck is sick of getting stereotyped by
> >> cyclists who run red lights...
>
> aeek> seriously, does anyone else sometimes feel caught between road
> aeek> rules and having to choose which to strictly obey and which to
> aeek> bend?
>
> In all seriousness, no. I cycle in pretty much the same manner I drive.
>
> The most common mistake I see other cyclists on the road make is not
> cycling far enough out from the kerb. I can't remember the last time I
> had a motorist driving any vehicle pass me in a manner that I'd consider
> too close. I attribute that to cycling at minimum one meter from the
> kerb. The narrower the lane, the more of it I take up.
Come join us on our daily journey through Mt Gravatt, Euan.
It's the funnest section of road ever... Doesn't matter what you do,
some w@nker in a cage is going to overtake without fully changing lanes
and then cut back across before they're clear. I can't remember the last
time I DIDN'T have this happen. Driving in the RHS of the lane means
that as they cut me off, I can start to veer left without concern...
Tam
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Tamyka Bell
Guest
blah wrote:
>
> eddiec wrote:
>
> > Let's face it. If we all, every single one of us, obeyed the rules,
> > these same twits would still find ways to get angry with cyclists. It's
> > in their nature. And that they're jealous. "how dare they enjoy their
> > ride to work (not to mention lives), when I'm so caught up in my own
> > self-importance to appreciate anything"...
> >
> Absolutely - the only reason 'they' get angry is that we hold them up
> and inconvenience them. They actually have to use the steering wheel
> and go around or, heaven forbid, use the brake pedal. Do you know how
> hard it is to get the average car back up to speed? You have to press
> on the accellerator!
> Funny and ironic as it sounds, I'm deadly serious that this is the
> reason your average motorist sees us as a menace. That's not going to
> change _much_ if we all obey the road rules scrupulously.
> Of course, this said, I obey the rules when riding pretty much as when
> I drive (coming to full stops when at certain stop signs? speeding when
> coasting down steep hills? etc).
I break the rules sometimes - moving in front of the stop line at a red
light where safe to do so, particularly at one intersection where the
lights won't get triggered by my bike... I'm sure there'd be others that
I've done. Oh yeah, riding over those painted-on no-go zones that are
like safe traffic islands, in a few spots on my commute, so that I don't
block the traffic. Any driver complaining about this would immediately
be placed on my hit-list though, as it seems pretty obvious that I'm
doing it to stay out of the way, so they can speed or whatever.
It pisses me off when I see cyclists run red lights at busy
intersections where they could safely cross with the traffic. I always
make it a priority to chase them and beat them up the next hill. Hahaha!
Tam *bad girl, also a **** for hill-climbing, and Abby's my ******
>
> eddiec wrote:
>
> > Let's face it. If we all, every single one of us, obeyed the rules,
> > these same twits would still find ways to get angry with cyclists. It's
> > in their nature. And that they're jealous. "how dare they enjoy their
> > ride to work (not to mention lives), when I'm so caught up in my own
> > self-importance to appreciate anything"...
> >
> Absolutely - the only reason 'they' get angry is that we hold them up
> and inconvenience them. They actually have to use the steering wheel
> and go around or, heaven forbid, use the brake pedal. Do you know how
> hard it is to get the average car back up to speed? You have to press
> on the accellerator!
> Funny and ironic as it sounds, I'm deadly serious that this is the
> reason your average motorist sees us as a menace. That's not going to
> change _much_ if we all obey the road rules scrupulously.
> Of course, this said, I obey the rules when riding pretty much as when
> I drive (coming to full stops when at certain stop signs? speeding when
> coasting down steep hills? etc).
I break the rules sometimes - moving in front of the stop line at a red
light where safe to do so, particularly at one intersection where the
lights won't get triggered by my bike... I'm sure there'd be others that
I've done. Oh yeah, riding over those painted-on no-go zones that are
like safe traffic islands, in a few spots on my commute, so that I don't
block the traffic. Any driver complaining about this would immediately
be placed on my hit-list though, as it seems pretty obvious that I'm
doing it to stay out of the way, so they can speed or whatever.
It pisses me off when I see cyclists run red lights at busy
intersections where they could safely cross with the traffic. I always
make it a priority to chase them and beat them up the next hill. Hahaha!
Tam *bad girl, also a **** for hill-climbing, and Abby's my ******
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Tamyka Bell
Guest
Euan wrote:
>
> >>>>> "blah" == blah <[email protected]> writes:
>
> blah> Of course, this said, I obey the rules when riding pretty much
> blah> as when I drive (coming to full stops when at certain stop
> blah> signs? speeding when coasting down steep hills? etc).
>
> I make a point of putting my foot down at stop signs. As for downhill,
> I'm too busy watching the road to look at the speedo ;-)
> --
> Cheers | ~~ __@
> Euan | ~~ _-\<,
> Melbourne, Australia | ~ (*)/ (*)
When you're a lightweight like me, speeding isn't an issue. Except up
little rises in 40km/h zones with a tailwind.
Tam
>
> >>>>> "blah" == blah <[email protected]> writes:
>
> blah> Of course, this said, I obey the rules when riding pretty much
> blah> as when I drive (coming to full stops when at certain stop
> blah> signs? speeding when coasting down steep hills? etc).
>
> I make a point of putting my foot down at stop signs. As for downhill,
> I'm too busy watching the road to look at the speedo ;-)
> --
> Cheers | ~~ __@
> Euan | ~~ _-\<,
> Melbourne, Australia | ~ (*)/ (*)
When you're a lightweight like me, speeding isn't an issue. Except up
little rises in 40km/h zones with a tailwind.
Tam
I took the plunge a couple of years ago now and sold the car. It was pretty much just gathering dust anyway. But even with three teenagers (all equipped with bikes, though they don't use them that much) the occasional taxi or hire car for all of us still doesn't come close to the cost of running a car. I get friends' cars cleaned for them if I borrow them. There is a community car set up about to establish near work and home, and that looks pretty inviting.Stuart Lamble said:
ali
alison_b said:
way-to-go-maaaate!
be interested to hear your experiences about the community-car program.
The people's at travelsmart keep mentioning this is about in a few inner-melb 'burbs...
Well, I'm still encouraging all I know locally to sign up for the neighbourhood one, but apparently Carlton (near work) is ear-marked for one sooner. Either would be fine, as long as there is a safe spot to leave the bike while I tootle off in the fume-boxflyingdutch said:way-to-go-maaaate!
be interested to hear your experiences about the community-car program.
The people's at travelsmart keep mentioning this is about in a few inner-melb 'burbs...
http://www.goget.com.au/
We're pretty well set-up with public transport where I am (tram at one end of the street, bus at the other, and we're a quick walk to stations on two different lines) so it wasn't too hard a choice in the end. Sometimes the loin fruit complain about having to sit on a train rather than in a car, but i'm sure it's character building
ali
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Peter Signorini
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"flyingdutch" <[email protected]> wrote in
message
> be interested to hear your experiences about the community-car
> program.
> The people's at travelsmart keep mentioning this is about in a few
> inner-melb 'burbs...
Try this crowd http://www.flo.net.au/
Makes a lot of sense really. Apparently several locations in St Kilda and
Fitzroy at present. I believe there may be another operator also.
Cheers
Peter
message
> be interested to hear your experiences about the community-car
> program.
> The people's at travelsmart keep mentioning this is about in a few
> inner-melb 'burbs...
Try this crowd http://www.flo.net.au/
Makes a lot of sense really. Apparently several locations in St Kilda and
Fitzroy at present. I believe there may be another operator also.
Cheers
Peter
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Marty
Guest
Stuart Lamble wrote:
> On 2005-06-23, Euan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Imagine if there was a collective waking up and people who rarely travel
>>more than 15kms ditched their car and got on a bike? That's a lot of
>>cars off the road and a lot of money taken out of the economy. I'm not
>>quite ready to order my tin foil beanie but I'm a bit suss of the media
>>blasting cyclists when motorists kill and maim every day.
>
>
> I was musing the other day about how well I'd cope if I sold the car and
> used the bike exclusively. A co-worker (who rides a motorbike) came back
> with the immediate rejoinder: "Shopping." I'd have a lot of trouble
> lugging a large quantity of meat from a wholesaler in Berwick back to my
> place in Mitcham, for example; panniers are nice, but the loss of
> traction on the front wheel could be ... interesting. (I *heart* my
> chest freezer ... defrosting is almost due, though; I need to finish off
> the steak, lamb, and fish that's still in there first, though. About
> another week ...)
>
> Hmm. Where can I buy dry ice around town? That could work ... (trains.
> Fun ...)
>
Dry ice transports easily wrapped in newspaper. I once filled up a tank
bag on my motor bike and took it to a party 200 km away with virtually
no loss.
Marty
> On 2005-06-23, Euan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Imagine if there was a collective waking up and people who rarely travel
>>more than 15kms ditched their car and got on a bike? That's a lot of
>>cars off the road and a lot of money taken out of the economy. I'm not
>>quite ready to order my tin foil beanie but I'm a bit suss of the media
>>blasting cyclists when motorists kill and maim every day.
>
>
> I was musing the other day about how well I'd cope if I sold the car and
> used the bike exclusively. A co-worker (who rides a motorbike) came back
> with the immediate rejoinder: "Shopping." I'd have a lot of trouble
> lugging a large quantity of meat from a wholesaler in Berwick back to my
> place in Mitcham, for example; panniers are nice, but the loss of
> traction on the front wheel could be ... interesting. (I *heart* my
> chest freezer ... defrosting is almost due, though; I need to finish off
> the steak, lamb, and fish that's still in there first, though. About
> another week ...)
>
> Hmm. Where can I buy dry ice around town? That could work ... (trains.
> Fun ...)
>
Dry ice transports easily wrapped in newspaper. I once filled up a tank
bag on my motor bike and took it to a party 200 km away with virtually
no loss.
Marty
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Skewer
Guest
flyingdutch wrote:
> Stuart Lamble Wrote:
>
>>I was musing the other day about how well I'd cope if I sold the car
>>and
>>used the bike exclusively. A co-worker (who rides a motorbike) came
>>back
>>with the immediate rejoinder: "Shopping." I'd have a lot of trouble
>>lugging a large quantity of meat from a wholesaler in Berwick back to
>>my
>>place in Mitcham, for example; panniers are nice, but the loss of
>>traction on the front wheel could be ... interesting. (I *heart* my
>>chest freezer ... defrosting is almost due, though; I need to finish
>>off
>>the steak, lamb, and fish that's still in there first, though. About
>>another week ...)
>>
>
> Bobtrailer or bette ryet, one of these!
>
> http://www.dutchbike.co.uk/Bikes/cargobike.htm
>
Nah, One of these...
http://xtracycle.com/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumName=real_loads&id=Groceries_0729
> Stuart Lamble Wrote:
>
>>I was musing the other day about how well I'd cope if I sold the car
>>and
>>used the bike exclusively. A co-worker (who rides a motorbike) came
>>back
>>with the immediate rejoinder: "Shopping." I'd have a lot of trouble
>>lugging a large quantity of meat from a wholesaler in Berwick back to
>>my
>>place in Mitcham, for example; panniers are nice, but the loss of
>>traction on the front wheel could be ... interesting. (I *heart* my
>>chest freezer ... defrosting is almost due, though; I need to finish
>>off
>>the steak, lamb, and fish that's still in there first, though. About
>>another week ...)
>>
>
> Bobtrailer or bette ryet, one of these!
>
> http://www.dutchbike.co.uk/Bikes/cargobike.htm
>
Nah, One of these...
http://xtracycle.com/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumName=real_loads&id=Groceries_0729
Skewer said:
I hate not riding to work cos I want to take the other bike to the shop.
http://xtracycle.com/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumName=real_loads&id=Bikes
Skewer said:
hey it is a dutch bike
From: todd (Jan 22, 2005 19:25 EST)
that's the bobike mini (google it), made by the same dutch company that makes the maxi, sold by xtracycle as the PeaPod.
http://xtracycle.com/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumName=real_loads&id=todds_bike
different frame, same rear setup
A
Andrew Reddaway
Guest
flyingdutch wrote:
>
> Stuart Lamble Wrote:
> >
> > I was musing the other day about how well I'd cope if I sold the car
> > and
> > used the bike exclusively. A co-worker (who rides a motorbike) came
> > back
> > with the immediate rejoinder: "Shopping." I'd have a lot of trouble
> > lugging a large quantity of meat from a wholesaler in Berwick back
> > to my
> > place in Mitcham, for example; panniers are nice, but the loss of
> > traction on the front wheel could be ... interesting. (I heart my
> > chest freezer ... defrosting is almost due, though; I need to finish
> > off
> > the steak, lamb, and fish that's still in there first, though. About
> > another week ...)
> >
> >
>
> Bobtrailer or bette ryet, one of these!
>
> http://www.dutchbike.co.uk/Bikes/cargobike.htm
I'm one of the car-less breed Although my wife has one, so I don't
really count! I actually just got a freight bike made up by
Greenspeed. It's a nice machine - bringing back a weekly load of
groceries needed similar effort to when I use a "normal" bike with full
front-and-back panniers. Plus it's much easier to load up. And it can
take heavier & bulkier loads too - it's designed for 100kg.
The design is similar to this:
http://www.bikefix.co.uk/8freight.html
http://www.bikefix.co.uk/i-8freight.html
>
> Stuart Lamble Wrote:
> >
> > I was musing the other day about how well I'd cope if I sold the car
> > and
> > used the bike exclusively. A co-worker (who rides a motorbike) came
> > back
> > with the immediate rejoinder: "Shopping." I'd have a lot of trouble
> > lugging a large quantity of meat from a wholesaler in Berwick back
> > to my
> > place in Mitcham, for example; panniers are nice, but the loss of
> > traction on the front wheel could be ... interesting. (I heart my
> > chest freezer ... defrosting is almost due, though; I need to finish
> > off
> > the steak, lamb, and fish that's still in there first, though. About
> > another week ...)
> >
> >
>
> Bobtrailer or bette ryet, one of these!
>
> http://www.dutchbike.co.uk/Bikes/cargobike.htm
I'm one of the car-less breed
Although my wife has one, so I don'treally count! I actually just got a freight bike made up by
Greenspeed. It's a nice machine - bringing back a weekly load of
groceries needed similar effort to when I use a "normal" bike with full
front-and-back panniers. Plus it's much easier to load up. And it can
take heavier & bulkier loads too - it's designed for 100kg.
The design is similar to this:
http://www.bikefix.co.uk/8freight.html
http://www.bikefix.co.uk/i-8freight.html
C
Carl Brewer
Guest
On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 21:08:59 +1000, flyingdutch
<[email protected]> wrote:
>"Maybe cyclists should abide by all road rules instead of just the ones
>that suit them"
>Rob Blackburn
You single this out as if it's a bad thing?
<[email protected]> wrote:
>"Maybe cyclists should abide by all road rules instead of just the ones
>that suit them"
>Rob Blackburn
You single this out as if it's a bad thing?
Carl Brewer said:
After years of poo-poohing all tohse who ride down the tramtracks thru the CBD i tried it today and i gotta say Im sold!
Cars are happy (and 'over there!') cos you dont supposedly slow em down and you get a clear, smooth and clear-lines-of-sight. Admittedy i did this for 3/4 of Collins without a tram in front of me but I'll try it again, me thinks.
Dont Sydely have a turn-left-at-any-time-with-care-rule?
That's probably the most common red-light-runnin cyclist i spot (that or the ped light one
)
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Tamyka Bell
Guest
sydney biker wrote:
>
> LITTLE TINY Tim AS IN 2" wrote:
> > On 2005-06-26, sydney biker (aka Bruce)
> > was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
>
> PLONK
Hey was he talking about Tim the Toolman?
Hey, Roger, Roger, why don't you pick on me....
Tam
>
> LITTLE TINY Tim AS IN 2" wrote:
> > On 2005-06-26, sydney biker (aka Bruce)
> > was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
>
> PLONK
Hey was he talking about Tim the Toolman?
Hey, Roger, Roger, why don't you pick on me....
Tam
flyingdutch said:Dont Sydely have a turn-left-at-any-time-with-care-rule?
That's probably the most common red-light-runnin cyclist i spot (that or the ped light one
Left turn on red is allowed only if it is signed. You can't turn on red if the sign isn't there.
Ritch
D
DaveB
Guest
flyingdutch wrote:
>
> After years of poo-poohing all tohse who ride down the tramtracks thru
> the CBD i tried it today and i gotta say Im sold!
> Cars are happy (and 'over there!') cos you dont supposedly slow em down
> and you get a clear, smooth and clear-lines-of-sight. Admittedy i did
> this for 3/4 of Collins without a tram in front of me but I'll try it
> again, me thinks.
Only two problems Dutch. One is when you forget you're on the roadbike
instead of the MTB (those damned tram tracks). And the other is keeping
a very close eye out for cars doing U turns. Of course if you ride
through the tram stops you also want to keep a very close eye on
pedestrians (especially at Collins and Swanston).
DaveB "occasional tram track rider"
>
> After years of poo-poohing all tohse who ride down the tramtracks thru
> the CBD i tried it today and i gotta say Im sold!
> Cars are happy (and 'over there!') cos you dont supposedly slow em down
> and you get a clear, smooth and clear-lines-of-sight. Admittedy i did
> this for 3/4 of Collins without a tram in front of me but I'll try it
> again, me thinks.
Only two problems Dutch. One is when you forget you're on the roadbike
instead of the MTB (those damned tram tracks). And the other is keeping
a very close eye out for cars doing U turns. Of course if you ride
through the tram stops you also want to keep a very close eye on
pedestrians (especially at Collins and Swanston).
DaveB "occasional tram track rider"
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