I'm going with steel. 2003 Specialized Allez Comp Cro-mo

[Brad Behm]

I finally decided to replace my damaged trek 2100 frame with a steel one. I realized it's a little
heavier but that's not such a big deal to me. My dad tells me 'steel is real' and all that jazz. Now
I need to know about a good steel frame.

I've noticed not many bike companies make steel frames anymore and I'd like to get something new.

So first: Does anyone know of any good steel frame makers with recent models?

second: I'm looking at a 2003 Specialized Allex comp Cro-mo frame. Has anyone used this one? Likes
and dislikes?

Please let me know what you think

Thanks

Andrew

 

[Steve Shapiro]

Originally posted by Brad Behm
I finally decided to replace my damaged trek 2100 frame with a steel one. I realized it's a little
heavier but that's not such a big deal to me. My dad tells me 'steel is real' and all that jazz. Now
I need to know about a good steel frame.

I've noticed not many bike companies make steel frames anymore and I'd like to get something new.

So first: Does anyone know of any good steel frame makers with recent models?

second: I'm looking at a 2003 Specialized Allex comp Cro-mo frame. Has anyone used this one? Likes
and dislikes?

Please let me know what you think

Thanks

Andrew

Well, for racing bikes, if you have some time to wait and money to spend then Richard Sachs has a great reputation. http://www.richardsachs.com/rsachs2.html

Rivendell has a variety of steel bikes including racing, touring and custom made. Some are stock and may be available now others may take longer. It depends on what you want.
http://www.rivbike.com/

In any case, these are a couple of fun sites to browse.

Good luck,

Steve Shapiro

 

[David Reuteler]

Steve Shapiro <[email protected]> wrote:
> Well, for racing bikes, if you have some time to wait and money to spend then Richard Sachs has a
> great reputation. http://www.richardsachs.com/rsachs2.html
>
> Rivendell has a variety of steel bikes including racing, touring and custom made. Some are stock
> and may be available now others may take longer. It depends on what you want.
> http://www.rivbike.com/

good lord, steve. i don't think he meant a frou-frou money machine.

specialized allez cr-mo ($1630), surly pacer, soma road, jamis quest ($1300), gunnar roadie ($1800)

gunnarbikes.com, somafab.com, jamisbikes.com, surlybikes.com,

or ****, go ti. get a habanero. habcycles.com
--
david reuteler [email protected]

 

[Brad Behm]

Well I can get the specialized allez cr-mo with carbon frame for $300 new. So I think that's
pretty good.

-andrew

"David Reuteler" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Steve Shapiro <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Well, for racing bikes, if you have some time to wait and money to spend then Richard Sachs has
> > a great reputation. http://www.richardsachs.com/rsachs2.html
> >
> > Rivendell has a variety of steel bikes including racing, touring and custom made. Some are stock
> > and may be available now others may take longer. It depends on what you want.
> > http://www.rivbike.com/
>
> good lord, steve. i don't think he meant a frou-frou money machine.
>
> specialized allez cr-mo ($1630), surly pacer, soma road, jamis quest
($1300),
> gunnar roadie ($1800)
>
> gunnarbikes.com, somafab.com, jamisbikes.com, surlybikes.com,
>
> or ****, go ti. get a habanero. habcycles.com
> --
> david reuteler [email protected]

 

[Brad Behm]

fork. I meant carbon fork.

sorry

-andrew

"David Reuteler" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Steve Shapiro <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Well, for racing bikes, if you have some time to wait and money to spend then Richard Sachs has
> > a great reputation. http://www.richardsachs.com/rsachs2.html
> >
> > Rivendell has a variety of steel bikes including racing, touring and custom made. Some are stock
> > and may be available now others may take longer. It depends on what you want.
> > http://www.rivbike.com/
>
> good lord, steve. i don't think he meant a frou-frou money machine.
>
> specialized allez cr-mo ($1630), surly pacer, soma road, jamis quest
($1300),
> gunnar roadie ($1800)
>
> gunnarbikes.com, somafab.com, jamisbikes.com, surlybikes.com,
>
> or ****, go ti. get a habanero. habcycles.com
> --
> david reuteler [email protected]

 

[BaCardi]

Originally posted by Brad Behm
I finally decided to replace my damaged trek 2100 frame with a steel one. I realized it's a little
heavier but that's not such a big deal to me. My dad tells me 'steel is real' and all that jazz. Now
I need to know about a good steel frame.

I've noticed not many bike companies make steel frames anymore and I'd like to get something new.

So first: Does anyone know of any good steel frame makers with recent models?

second: I'm looking at a 2003 Specialized Allex comp Cro-mo frame. Has anyone used this one? Likes
and dislikes?

Please let me know what you think

Thanks

Andrew

The Allez Comp is a good bike. I knew a guy that had one of the older silver ones and raced it for years. It'd be nice to get a custom steel frame, but it'll cost you about 4 times as much as the bike your considering.

 

[Fig]

"Brad Behm" <[email protected]> wrote:

>So first: Does anyone know of any good steel frame makers with recent models?

I had a Colnago Master X-Lite for few weeks to try...it is a best steel frame I have ever riden.

 

[Ronald]

> I had a Colnago Master X-Lite for few weeks to try...it is a best steel
frame I have ever riden.

I'll second that, but it's also a bit expensive.

"fig" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> "Brad Behm" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >So first: Does anyone know of any good steel frame makers with recent models?
>
> I had a Colnago Master X-Lite for few weeks to try...it is a best steel
frame I have ever riden.

 

[Bruni]

Fyi, since the 2100 trek is a medium wt. bonded Al frame, many premium steel frames are lighter.
Mine range from 2.8-3.8 lb. Tom

--
Bruni Bicycles
"Where art meets science"
brunibicycles.com
410.426.3420
fig <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Brad Behm" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >So first: Does anyone know of any good steel frame makers with recent
> >models?
>
> I had a Colnago Master X-Lite for few weeks to try...it is a best steel
frame I have ever riden.

 

[Qui Si Parla Ca]

brad-<< So first: Does anyone know of any good steel frame makers with recent models? >><BR><BR>

Torelli, Waterford, Nobilette to name three

http://www.torelli.com

http://www.waterfordbikes.com

http://www.nobilettecycles.com

Don't expect any shops that only deal with bikes in boxes to have much steel. Way to expensive when
they see the deal they can make with aluminum.

Peter Chisholm Vecchio's Bicicletteria 1833 Pearl St. Boulder, CO, 80302
(303)440-3535 http://www.vecchios.com "Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene"

 

[Terry Morse]

Brad Behm wrote:

> So first: Does anyone know of any good steel frame makers with recent models?

You can get a stock Rivendell frame and fork for $990-$1300:

http://www.rivendellbicycles.com/html/bikes_rambouilletframes.html

A little heavier than your basic frame, but tough as nails, and it will last forever.
--
terry morse Palo Alto, CA http://www.terrymorse.com/bike/

 

[Warren Block]

Terry Morse <[email protected]> wrote:
> Brad Behm wrote:
>
>> So first: Does anyone know of any good steel frame makers with recent models?
>
> You can get a stock Rivendell frame and fork for $990-$1300:
>
> http://www.rivendellbicycles.com/html/bikes_rambouilletframes.html
>
> A little heavier than your basic frame, but tough as nails, and it will last forever.

For $1550, you can get a complete Romulus bike. Almost the same frame but with less ornate lugs and
a plain blue paint job.

--
Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota * USA

 

[Steve Shapiro]

Originally posted by David Reuteler
Steve Shapiro <[email protected]> wrote:
> Well, for racing bikes, if you have some time to wait and money to spend then Richard Sachs has a
> great reputation. http://www.richardsachs.com/rsachs2.html
>
> Rivendell has a variety of steel bikes including racing, touring and custom made. Some are stock
> and may be available now others may take longer. It depends on what you want.
> http://www.rivbike.com/

good lord, steve. i don't think he meant a frou-frou money machine.

specialized allez cr-mo ($1630), surly pacer, soma road, jamis quest ($1300), gunnar roadie ($1800)

gunnarbikes.com, somafab.com, jamisbikes.com, surlybikes.com,

or ****, go ti. get a habanero. habcycles.com
--
david reuteler [email protected]

The OP is replacing a $1400 bike. Some Rivendell bikes range from ~1500 to 2K. Not so different. But you're right about Sachs being way up there in price. I think it's enjoyable to browse his web site and see what he has to say though. It was offered more in that spirit.

Steve Shapiro

 

[Sergio Servadio]

On 5 Mar 2004, Mike Krueger wrote:
> Plenty of companies are still producing steel frames. Just off the top of my head, and in addition
> to those already mentioned: Tommasini, Pegoretti, Moser, Mondonico, Giordana, Merckx, Cervelo,
> Lermond, Independent Fabrications, Seven, Spectrum, Steelman, Landshark, Hampsten...

I know there are more than these, but let me pose to ask. Where would Hampsten frames be made?

Sergio Pisa

 

[Terry Morse]

Mike Krueger wrote:

> Plenty of companies are still producing steel frames. Just off the top of my head, and in addition
> to those already mentioned: Tommasini, Pegoretti, Moser, Mondonico, Giordana, Merckx, Cervelo,
> Lermond, Independent Fabrications, Seven, Spectrum, Steelman, Landshark, Hampsten...

and Marin (Columbus tubing): http://www.marinbikes.com/html/bikes_04_road.html
--
terry morse Palo Alto, CA http://www.terrymorse.com/bike/

 

[Smokva]

"Ronald" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I had a Colnago Master X-Lite for few weeks to try...it is a best steel
>frame I have ever riden.
>
>I'll second that, but it's also a bit expensive.

If you buy a bike like that you'll drive it at least for 10 years and I think that it is worth of
every (inser your currency) for that time )

 

[Erik Brooks]

> > So first: Does anyone know of any good steel frame makers with recent models?

Another maker of steel frames that I've heard good reports about is Kogswell. They sell frames only
via mail/web order only.

http://kogswell.com/

Here are some photos of a couple of fixed gears using these frames:

http://www.fixedgeargallery.com/2003/henry.htm http://www.fixedgeargallery.com/sanderson.htm

 

[Tim McNamara]

"Brad Behm" <[email protected]> writes:

> I finally decided to replace my damaged trek 2100 frame with a steel one. I realized it's a little
> heavier but that's not such a big deal to me. My dad tells me 'steel is real' and all that jazz.
> Now I need to know about a good steel frame.

Good frames can be made from steel, aluminum, titanium, carbon fiber and probably other materials as
well. One material is not inherently superior to the others, for the most part. I prefer steel,
being something of a traditionalist.

> I've noticed not many bike companies make steel frames anymore and I'd like to get something new.

That's because of marketing forces. Customers typically think a pound of steel weighs more than a
pound of aluminum.

> So first: Does anyone know of any good steel frame makers with recent models?

Try:

http://www.rivendellbicycles.com for sport/touring type bikes http://www.waterfordbikes.com for
racing, sport and touring bikes http://www.gunnarbikes.com for racing, cyclo-cross, touring, MTB
http://www.ritcheylogic.com for racing bikes.

 

[Ted Bennett]

smokva <[email protected]> wrote:

> "Ronald" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> I had a Colnago Master X-Lite for few weeks to try...it is a best steel
> >frame I have ever riden.
> >
> >I'll second that, but it's also a bit expensive.
>
> If you buy a bike like that you'll drive it at least for 10 years and I think that it is worth of
> every (inser your currency) for that time )
>

Correction: at least 50 years, based on one of my bikes. What do I win?

YMMV, of course, depending on the tube thickness and the use or abuse of the frame.

--
Ted Bennett Portland OR

 

[Eric Larsson]

That Specialized uses a Foco tubeset. Very light and stiff with the feel of steel. And at the list
price I think Specialized has a value here that's hard to beat.

"Brad Behm" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> I finally decided to replace my damaged trek 2100 frame with a steel one. I realized it's a little
> heavier but that's not such a big deal to me. My dad tells me 'steel is real' and all that jazz.
> Now I need to know about a good steel frame.
>
> I've noticed not many bike companies make steel frames anymore and I'd like to get something new.
>
> So first: Does anyone know of any good steel frame makers with recent models?
>
> second: I'm looking at a 2003 Specialized Allex comp Cro-mo frame. Has anyone used this one? Likes
> and dislikes?
>
> Please let me know what you think
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
> Andrew