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Infection / bloodletting / phlebotomy

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    http://my.webmd.com/content/article/94/102585.htm?z=1728_00000_1000_nb_06

    "Staph thrives on iron compounds, scavenging it from the animals it infects. It
    obtains most of the iron it needs to grow during infection .... Specifically,
    it prefers a kind of iron found in heme ....." "If no heme is available, the
    bacterium's chances of thriving may fail."

    Extreme Technique

    What does all this have to do with bloodletting?

    Skaar's team didn't address bloodletting.

    But the idea boils down to this: The less blood that's available, the harder it
    is for the bacterium to scrounge up enough heme to thrive.

    "Bloodletting in the preantibiotic era may have been an effective mechanism for
    starving bacterial pathogens of iron and slowing bacterial growth," writes
    Rouault.

    These days, we have different ways to handle infections.

    Though bloodletting is out of vogue -- and none of the researchers is
    suggesting its revival -- the reasons why it sometimes worked may be clearer.

    They say that targeting or inhibiting the bacteria's ability to obtain iron is
    a promising area of research that may create novel options for therapy against
    infection.

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  2. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Infection / bloodletting / phlebotomy
    From: [email hidden] (doe)
    Date: 9/11/2004 1:10 PM Mountain Daylight Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    -------------------------------
    http://my.webmd.com/content/article/94/102585.htm?z=1728_00000_1000_nb_06

    "Staph thrives on iron compounds, scavenging it from the animals it infects.
    It
    obtains most of the iron it needs to grow during infection .... Specifically,
    it prefers a kind of iron found in heme ....." "If no heme is available, the
    bacterium's chances of thriving may fail."

    Extreme Technique

    What does all this have to do with bloodletting?

    Skaar's team didn't address bloodletting.

    But the idea boils down to this: The less blood that's available, the harder
    it
    is for the bacterium to scrounge up enough heme to thrive.

    "Bloodletting in the preantibiotic era may have been an effective mechanism
    for
    starving bacterial pathogens of iron and slowing bacterial growth," writes
    Rouault.

    These days, we have different ways to handle infections.

    Though bloodletting is out of vogue -- and none of the researchers is
    suggesting its revival -- the reasons why it sometimes worked may be clearer.

    They say that targeting or inhibiting the bacteria's ability to obtain iron
    is
    a promising area of research that may create novel options for therapy
    against
    infection.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------

    http://msnbc.msn.com/id/5953918/

    Why bloodletting may have actually worked
    Study suggests ancient practice starved germs of ironThe Associated Press
    Updated: 6:38 p.m. ET Sept. 9, 2004

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    Tom
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  3. Why reply to yourself with the exact same message? With a life
    threatening staph infection what do you do, do antibotics or go to the
    blood bank? Case closed.

  4. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Infection / bloodletting / phlebotomy
    From: [email hidden]
    Date: 9/13/2004 8:18 AM Mountain Daylight Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    Why reply to yourself with the exact same message? With a life
    threatening staph infection what do you do, do antibotics or go to the
    blood bank? Case closed.

    Oh so you didn't read the studies which are recommending iron binders in ..
    sepsis .. ?

    Oh yeah .. that's right .. you DID read them .. and you are just doing your
    regular routine ..

    Fkd up greaseball ..

    Quoted message said:

    -------------------------------
    http://my.webmd.com/content/article/94/102585.htm?z=1728_00000_1000_nb_06

    "Staph thrives on iron compounds, scavenging it from the animals it infects.
    It
    obtains most of the iron it needs to grow during infection .... Specifically,
    it prefers a kind of iron found in heme ....." "If no heme is available, the
    bacterium's chances of thriving may fail."

    Extreme Technique

    What does all this have to do with bloodletting?

    Skaar's team didn't address bloodletting.

    But the idea boils down to this: The less blood that's available, the harder
    it
    is for the bacterium to scrounge up enough heme to thrive.

    "Bloodletting in the preantibiotic era may have been an effective mechanism
    for
    starving bacterial pathogens of iron and slowing bacterial growth," writes
    Rouault.

    These days, we have different ways to handle infections.

    Though bloodletting is out of vogue -- and none of the researchers is
    suggesting its revival -- the reasons why it sometimes worked may be clearer.

    They say that targeting or inhibiting the bacteria's ability to obtain iron
    is
    a promising area of research that may create novel options for therapy
    against
    infection.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------

    http://msnbc.msn.com/id/5953918/

    Why bloodletting may have actually worked
    Study suggests ancient practice starved germs of ironThe Associated Press
    Updated: 6:38 p.m. ET Sept. 9, 2004

    Who loves ya.
    Tom
    Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com
    Man Is A Herbivore! http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/manisaherbivore
    DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/deadpeoplewalking

  5. With a life threatening staph infection what do yyou do, take antibotics
    or go to the blood bank or consume iron binders? Case closed.

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