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    Rosedale | Nicholson | Sears Debate Ron Rosedale, M.D.
    Insulin and It's Metabolic Effects Presented at Crayhon
    Research Institute's BoulderFest August 1999 Seminar
    Let's talk about a couple of case histories. These are
    actual patients that I've seen; let's start with
    patient A. This patient who we will just call patient A
    saw me one afternoon and said that he had literally
    just signed himself out of the hospital "AMA," or
    against medical advice. Like in the movies, he had
    ripped out his IV's. The next day he was scheduled to
    have his second by-pass surgery. He had been told that
    if he did not follow through with this by-pass surgery,
    within two weeks he would be dead. He couldn't walk
    from the car to the office without severe chest pain.
    He was on 102 units of insulin and his blood sugars
    were 300 plus. He was on eight different medications
    for various things. But his first by-pass surgery was
    such a miserable experience he said he would rather
    just die than have to go through the second one and had
    heard that I might be able to prevent that. To make a
    long story short, this gentleman right now is on no
    insulin. I first saw him three and a half years ago. He
    plays golf four or five times a week. He is on no
    medications whatsoever, he has no chest pain, and he
    has not had any surgery. He started an organization
    called "Heart Support of America" to educated people
    that there are alternatives to by-pass surgery that
    have nothing to do with surgery or medication. That
    organization, he last told me had a mailing list of
    over a million people, a large organization, "Heart
    Support of America." Patient B is a patient who had a
    triglyceride level of 2200. Patient B was referred by
    patient A. He had a triglyceride of 2200, cholesterol
    of 950 and was on maximum doses of all of his
    medications. He was 42 years old, and he was told that
    he had familial hyperlipidema and that he had better
    get his affairs in order, that if that was what his
    lipids were despite the best medications with the
    highest doses, he was in trouble. He was not fat at
    all, he was fairly thin. Whenever I see a patient on
    any of those medications, they're off the very first
    visit. They have no place in medicine. He was taken off
    the medications and in six weeks his lipid levels, both
    his Triglycerides and his cholesterol were hovering
    around 220. Six more weeks they were both under 200,
    off of the medications. They have no place in medicine.
    I should mention that this patient had a CPK that was
    quite elevated. It was circled on the lab report that
    he brought in initially with a question mark by it
    because they didn't know why. The reason why was
    because he was eating off his muscles, because if you
    take (gyinfibrozole) and any of the HMG co-enzyme
    reductase inhibitors together, that is a common side
    effect that is in the PDR, and they shouldn't be given
    together. So he was chewing up his muscles, including
    his heart which they were trying to treat. So if indeed
    he was going to die, it was going to be that treatment
    that was going to kill him. Let's go to something
    totally different, a lady with severe osteoporosis. She
    is almost three standard deviations below the norm in
    both the hip femeral neck and the cervical vertebrae,
    and she is very worried about getting a fracture. A
    fairly young woman and she was put on a high
    carbohydrate diet and told that would be of benefit,
    and placed on estrogen, which is a fairly typical
    treatment. They wanted to put her on some other
    medicines and she didn't want to, she wanted to know if
    there was an alternative. Although we didn't have as
    dramatic a turn around, we got her to one standard
    deviation below the norm in a year, taking her off the
    estrogen she was on, anyway. Let's go to calaudication.
    That is severe angina of the leg when you walk, same
    thing as angina of the heart except of the leg. While
    walking, after walking a certain distance, there is
    pain. There was a gentleman who had extremely severe
    calaudication, who happens to be my stepfather. It was
    a typical case, he would walk about fifty yards and
    then he would get severe, crampy pain in his legs. He
    was quite well off and was going to see the best
    doctors in Chicago, and they couldn't figure out what
    was wrong with him initially. He went to a neurologist,
    they thought it might be neurological pain or back
    pain. He finally went to a vascular surgeon who said he
    thought it was vascular disease, so they did an
    artheriogram and sure enough, he had severe vascular
    disease. They did Doppler studies on his anko-bracheal
    ratio on one side and it was 0.6, normal is around 1.1.
    0.4 and you are in trouble for gangrene, so it was
    pretty bad, and they wanted to do the typical by-pass
    surgery that they normally do on this. He was thinking
    of going in for the surgery for one reason, they had a
    trip planned to Europe in two weeks, and he wanted to
    be able to walk since they normally do a lot of
    walking. Ten years previously he'd had an angioplasty
    for heart disease. At the time ten years ago, I told
    him he had to change his diet and he didn't of course.
    But this time he listened. I said that if he was not
    going to have a by-pass, then do exactly what I tell
    you to do and in two weeks you'll be walking just fine
    because by modulating this one aspect of his disease, I
    have never seen it not work, and it works very quickly
    to open up the artery. We can talk about a patient with
    a very high cancer risk. She had a mother and a sister
    who both died of breast cancer and she didn't want to,
    so she came in and I put her on the exact same
    treatment as the other cases I just mentioned. They
    were all treated virtually identically because they all
    had the same thing wrong with them. What would be the
    typical treatment of cardiovascular disease? First they
    check the cholesterol. High cholesterol over 200, they
    put you on cholesterol lowering drugs and what does it
    do? It shuts off your CoQ10. What does CoQ10 do? It is
    involved in the energy production and protection of
    little energy furnaces in every cell, so energy
    production goes way down. A common side effect of
    people who are on all these HMG co-enzyme reductase
    inhibitors is that they tell you their arms feel heavy.
    Well, the heart is a muscle too, and it's going to feel
    heavy too. One of the best treatments for a weak heart
    is CoQ10 for congestive heart failure. But they have no
    trouble shutting CoQ10 production off so that they can
    treat a number. And the common therapies for
    osteoporosis are drugs, and the common therapy for
    calaudication is surgery. For cancer reduction there is
    nothing. But all of these have a common cause. The same
    cause as three major avenues of research in aging. One
    is called caloric restriction. There are thousands of
    studies done since the fifties on caloric restriction.
    They restrict calories of laboratory animals. They have
    known since the fifties that if you restrict calories
    but maintain a high level of nutrition, called
    "C.R.O.N.'s:" Caloric restriction with optimal
    nutrition, or adequate nutrition, which would be
    CRAN"S, these animals can live anywhere between thirty
    and two-hundred percent longer depending on the
    species. They've done it on several dozen species and
    the results are uniform throughout. They are doing it
    on primates now and it is working with primates, we
    won't know for sure for about another ten years, they
    are about half way through the experiment, our nearest
    relatives are also living much longer. Then there are
    Centenarian studies. There are three major centenarian
    studies going on around the world. They are trying to
    find the variable that would confer longevity among
    these people. Why do centenarians become centenarians?
    Why are they so lucky? Is it because they have low
    cholesterol, exercise a lot, live a healthy, clean
    life? Well the longest recorded known person who has
    ever lived, Jean Calumet of France who died last year
    at 122 years, smoked all of her life and drank. What
    they are finding on these major centenarian studies is
    that there is hardly anything in common among them.
    They have high cholesterol and low cholesterol, some
    exercise and some don't, some smoke, some don't. Some
    are nasty as can be and some nice and calm and nice.
    Some are ornery, but they all low sugar, relatively for
    their age. They all have low triglycerides for their
    age. And they all have relatively low insulin. Insulin
    is the common denominator in everything I've just
    talked about. They way to treat cardiovascular disease
    and the way I treated my stepfather, the way I treated
    the high risk cancer patient, and osteoporosis, high
    blood pressure, the way to treat virtually all the so-
    called chronic diseases of aging is to treat insulin
    itself. The other major avenue of research in aging has
    to do with genetic studies of so-called lower
    organisms. We know the genetics involved. We've got the
    entire genes mapped out of several species now, of
    yeast and worms. We think of life span as being fixed,
    sort of. Humans kind of have an average life span of
    seventy-six, and the maximum life-span was this French
    lady at one-hundred and twenty-two. In humans we feel
    it is relatively fixed, but in lower forms of life it
    is very plastic. Life span is strictly a variable
    depending on the environment. They can live two weeks,
    two years, or sometimes twenty years depending on what
    they want themselves to do, which depends very much on
    the environment. If there is a lot of food around they
    are going to reproduce quickly and die quickly, if not
    they will just bide their time until conditions are
    better. We know now that the variability in life span
    is regulated by insulin. One thinks of insulin as
    strictly to lower blood sugar. Today in the clinic
    there was a patient listing off her drugs, she listed
    about eight drugs she was on and didn't even mention
    insulin. Insulin is not treated as a drug. In fact, in
    some places you don't even need a prescription, you can
    just get it over the counter, it's treated like candy.
    Insulin is found as in even single celled organisms. It
    has been around for several billion years. And its
    purpose in some organisms is to regulate life span. The
    way genetics works is that genes are not replaced, they
    are built upon. We have the same genes as everything
    that came before us. We just have more of them. We have
    added books to our genetic library, but our base is the
    same. What we are finding is that we can use insulin to
    regulate lifespan too. If there is a single marker for
    lifespan, as they are finding in the centenarian
    studies, it is insulin, specifically, insulin
    sensitivity. How sensitive are your cells to insulin.
    When they are not sensitive, the insulin levels go up.
    Who has heard of the term insulin resistance? Insulin
    resistance is the basis of all of the chronic diseases
    of aging, because the disease itself is actually aging.
    We know now that aging is a disease. The other case
    studies that I mentioned, cardiovascular disease,
    osteoporosis, obesity, diabetes, cancer, all the so-
    called chronic diseases of aging, auto-immune diseases,
    those are symptoms. If you have a cold and you go to
    the doctor, you have a runny nose, I did Ear, Nose and
    Throat for ten years, I know what the common treatment
    for that is, they give you a decongestant. I can't tell
    you how many patients I saw who had been given Sudafed
    by their family doctors for a cold and they came to see
    me after because of a really bad sinus infection. What
    happens when you treat the symptom of a runny nose from
    a cold and you take a decongestant? It certainly
    decongests you by shutting off the mucus. Why do you
    have the mucus, because you are trying to clean and
    wash out the membranes, and what else? What else is in
    mucus? Secretory IgA, a very strong antibody to kill
    the virus is in the mucus. If there is no mucus, there
    is no secretory IgA. Decongestants also constrict blood
    vessels, the little capillaries, or arterioles that go
    to those capillaries, the cilia, the little hair-like
    projections that beat to push mucus along to create a
    stream, they get paralyzed because they don't have
    blood flow so there is no more ciliary movement. What
    happens if you dam a stream and create a pond? In days
    you've got larvae growing. If the stream is moving, you
    are fine. You need a constant stream of mucus to get
    rid of and prevent an infection. I am going in to this
    in some detail because in almost all cases if you treat
    a symptom, you are going to make the disease worse
    because the symptom is there as your body's attempt to
    heal itself. Now, the medical profession is
    continuously segregating more and more symptoms into
    diseases, they call the symptoms diseases. Using ENT
    for example, that patient will walk out of there with a
    diagnosis of Rhinitis which is inflammation of the
    nose. Is there a reason that patient has inflammation
    of the nose? I think so. Wouldn't that underlying cause
    be the disease as opposed to the descriptive term of
    Rhinitis or Pharyngitis? Some one can have the same
    virus and have Rhinitis or Pharyngitis, or Sinusitis,
    they can have all sorts of "itis's" which is a
    descriptive term for inflammation. That is what the
    code will be and that is what the disease will be. So
    they treat what they think is the disease which is just
    a symptom. It is the same thing with cholesterol. If
    you have high cholesterol it is called
    hypercholesterolemia. Hypercholesterolemia has become
    the code for the disease when it is only the symptom.
    So they treat that symptom and what are they doing to
    the heart? Messing it up. So what you have to do if you
    are going to treat any disease is you need to get to
    the root of the disease. If you keep pulling a
    dandelion out by it's leaves, you are not going to get
    very far. But the problem is that we don't know what
    the root is, or we haven't. They know what it is in
    many other areas of science, but the problem is that
    medicine really isn't a science, it is a business, but
    I don't want to get in to that, we can talk hours on
    that. But if you really look at the root of what is
    causing it, we can use that cold as a further example.
    Why does that person have a cold? If he saw the doctor,
    the doctor might tell him to take an antibiotic along
    with the decongestant. You see this all the time
    because the doctor wants to get rid of the patient.
    Well we all know that in almost all cases of an upper
    respiratory infection it is a virus, and the antibiotic
    is going to do worse than nothing because it is going
    to kill the bacterial flora in the gut and impair the
    immune system, making the immune system worse. The
    patient might see someone else more knowledgeable who
    will say no, you caught a virus, don't do anything, go
    home and sleep, let your body heal itself. That's
    better. You might see someone else who would ask why
    you caught a virus without being out there trying to
    hunt for viruses with a net. We are breathing viruses
    every day; right now we are breathing viruses, cold
    viruses, rhinoviruses. Why doesn't everybody catch a
    cold tomorrow? The Chinese will tell you that it is
    because the milieu has to be right, if the Chinese were
    to quote the French. Your body has to be receptive to
    that virus. Only if your immune system is depressed
    will it allow that virus to take hold. So maybe a
    depressed immune system is the disease. So you can be
    given a bunch of vitamin C because your immune system
    is depressed and it is likely that the person has a
    vitamin C deficiency. That's where most of us are at
    right now, where we would give a bunch of vitamin C to
    try to pick up the immune system. But why is the
    vitamin C not working. Vitamin C is make in almost all
    living mammals except humans and a couple other
    species. Vitamin C is made directly from glucose and
    actually has a similar structure and they compete for
    one another. We've known for many years that sugar
    depresses the immune system. We have known that for
    decades. It was only in the 70's that they found out
    that vitamin C was needed by white blood cells so that
    they could phagocytize bacteria and viruses. White
    blood cells require a fifty times higher concentration
    at least inside the cell as outside so they have to
    accumulate vitamin C. There is something called a
    phagocytic index which tells you how rapidly a
    particular macrophage or lymphocyte can gobble up a
    virus, bacteria, or cancer cell. It was in the 70's
    that Linus Pauling knew that white blood cells needed a
    high dose of vitamin C and that is when he came up with
    his theory that you need high doses of vitamin C to
    combat the common cold. But if we know that vitamin C
    and glucose have similar chemical structure, what
    happens when the sugar levels go up? They compete for
    one another upon entering the cells. And the thing that
    mediates the entry of vitamin C into the cells is the
    same thing that mediates the entry of glucose into the
    cells. If there is more glucose around there is going
    to be less vitamin C allowed into the cell and it
    doesn't take much. A blood sugar value of 120 reduces
    the phagocytic index seventy-five percent. Here we are
    getting a little bit further down into the roots of
    disease. It doesn't matter what disease you are talking
    about, whether you are talking about a common cold or
    about cardiovascular disease, or osteoporosis or
    cancer, the root is always going to be at the molecular
    and cellular level, and I will tell you that insulin is
    going to have its hand in it, if not totally
    controlling it. What is the purpose of insulin? As I
    mentioned, in some organisms it is to control their
    lifespan, which is important. What is the purpose of
    insulin in humans? If you ask your doctor, they will
    say that it's to lower blood sugar and I will tell you
    right now, that is a trivial side effect. Insulin's
    evolutionary purpose, among others at least known right
    now, we are looking at others, is to store excess
    nutrients. We come from a time of feast and famine and
    if we couldn't store the excess energy during times of
    feasting, we would all not be here, because we all have
    had ancestors that encountered famine. So we are only
    here because our ancestors were able to store
    nutrients, and they were able to store nutrients
    because they were able to elevate their insulin in
    response to any elevation in energy that the organism
    encountered. When your body notices that the sugar is
    elevated, it is a sign that you've got more than you
    need right now, you are not burning it so it is
    accumulating in your blood. So insulin will be released
    to take that sugar and store it. How does it store it?
    (Someone in the audience suggest the answer
    glycogen)?Glycogen? How much glycogen do you store? Do
    you know how much glycogen you have in your body at any
    one time? Very little. All the glycogen stored in your
    liver and all the glycogen stored in your muscle if you
    had an active day wouldn't last you the day. Once you
    fill up your glycogen stores how is that sugar is
    stored, as what particular kind of triglyceride, or
    fatty acid? Palmitic acid. Saturated fat, ninety-eight
    percent of which is palmitic acid. So the idea of the
    medical profession to go on a high complex
    carbohydrate, low saturated-fat diet is an absolute
    oxymoron, because those high complex carbohydrate diets
    are nothing but a high glucose diet, or a high sugar
    diet, and your body is just going to store it as
    saturated fat. The body makes it into saturated fat
    quite readily. What else does insulin do? It doesn't
    just store carbohydrates, by the way. Somebody
    mentioned that it is an anabolic hormone, it absolutely
    is. Body builders are using insulin now because it is legal,
    so they are injecting themselves with insulin because it
    builds muscle, it stores protein too. A lesser known
    fact is that insulin also stores magnesium. We mentioned
    it's role in vitamin C, it stores all sorts of
    nutrients. But what happens if your cells become
    resistant to insulin? First of all you can't store
    magnesium so you lose it, that's one effect, you lose it
    out the urine. What is one of magnesium's major roles?
    To relax muscles. Intracellular magnesium relaxes
    muscles. What happens when you can't store magnesium
    because the cell is resistant? You lose magnesium and
    your blood vessels constrict, what does that do?
    Increases blood pressure, and reduces energy since
    intracellular magnesium is required for all energy
    producing reactions that take place in the cell. But
    most importantly, magnesium is also necessary for the
    action of insulin. It is also necessary for the
    manufacture of insulin. So then you raise your insulin,
    you lose magnesium, and the cells become even more
    insulin resistant. Blood vessels constrict, glucose and
    insulin can't get to the tissues, which makes them more
    insulin resistant, so the insulin levels go up and you
    lose more magnesium. This is the vicious cycle that goes
    on from before you were born. Insulin sensitivity is
    going to start being determined from the moment the
    sperm combines with the egg. If your mother, while you
    were in the womb was eating a high carbohydrate diet
    which is turning into sugar, we have been able to show
    that the fetus in animals becomes more insulin
    resistant. Worse yet, they are able to use sophisticated
    measurements, and if that fetus happens to be a female,
    they find that the eggs of that fetus are more insulin
    resistant. Does that mean it is genetic? No, you can be
    born with something and it doesn't mean that it is
    genetic. Diabetes is not a genetic disease as such. You
    can have a genetic predisposition. But it should be an
    extremely rare disease. What else does insulin do? We
    mentioned high blood pressure, if your magnesium levels
    go down you get high blood pressure. We mentioned that
    the blood vessels constrict and you get high blood
    pressure. Insulin also causes the retention of sodium,
    which causes the retention of fluid, which causes high
    blood pressure and fluid retention: congestive heart
    failure. One of the strongest stimulants of the
    sympathetic nervous system is high levels of insulin.
    What does all of this do to the heart? Not very good
    things. There was a study done a couple of years ago, a
    good, down to earth nicely conducted study that showed
    that heart attacks are two to three times more likely to
    happen after a high carbohydrate meal. They said
    specifically NOT after a high fat meal. Why is that?
    Because the immediate effects of raising your blood
    sugar from a high carbohydrate meal is to raise insulin
    and that immediately triggers the sympathetic nervous
    system which will cause arterial spasm, constriction of
    the arteries. If you take anybody prone to a heart
    attack and that is when they are going to get it. What
    else does insulin do? Insulin mediates blood lipids.
    That patient who had a triglyceride of 2200, one of the
    easiest things we can do is lower triglyceride levels.
    It is so simple. There was just an article in J.A.M.A.
    an article and they were saying that the medical
    profession doesn't know how to reduce triglycerides
    dietarily, that drugs still need to be used. It is so
    ridiculous because you will find that it is the easiest
    thing to do. They come tumbling down. There is almost a
    direct correlation between triglyceride levels and
    insulin levels. In some people more than others. The
    gentleman who had a triglyceride level of 2200 while on
    all the drugs only had an insulin level of 14.7. That is
    only slightly elevated, but it doesn't take much in some
    people, all we had to do was get his insulin level down
    to 8 initially and then it went down to six and that got
    his triglycerides down to under 200. The way you control
    blood lipids is by controlling insulin. We won't go into
    a lot of detail, but we now know that LDL cholesterol
    comes in several fractions, and it is the small, dense
    LDL that plays the largest role in initiating plaque.
    It's the most oxidizable. It is the most able to
    actually fit through the small cracks in the
    endothelium. And that's the one that insulin actually
    raises the most. When I say insulin, I should say
    insulin resistance. It is insulin resistance that is
    causing this. Cells become insulin resistant because
    they are trying to protect themselves from the toxic
    effects of high insulin. They down regulate their
    receptor activity and number of receptors so that they
    don't have to listen to that noxious stimuli all the
    time. It is like having this loud, disgusting rap music
    played and you want to turn the volume down. You might
    think of insulin resistance as like sitting in a smelly
    room and pretty soon you don't smell it anymore because
    you get desensitized. You can think about it, its not
    that you are not thinking about it anymore. But if you
    walk out of the room and come back, the smell is back.
    You can get resensitized is what that is telling you. It
    would be like you are starting to go deaf and your are
    telling others to speak up because you can't hear them,
    so if I was your pancreas, I would just start talking
    louder, and what does that do to your hearing? You would
    become deafer. Most cases of deafness, especially in old
    age is due to excessive noise exposure. All the noise
    exposure your ears have been exposed to, well the hair
    cells that end up triggering your brain to allow you to
    hear eventually get killed. Sometimes it just takes a
    single firecracker. This is the same thing with insulin
    resistance. What happens is that if your cells are
    exposed to insulin at all they get a little bit more
    resistant to it. So the pancreas just puts out more
    insulin. I saw a patient today, her blood sugar was 102
    and her insulin was 90! She wasn't sure if she was
    fasting or not, but I've seen other patients where their
    blood sugar was under 100 and their fasting insulin has
    been over 90. That is a fasting insulin. I'm not sure
    how many people are familiar with seeing fasting
    insulins. But if I drank all the glucose I could
    possibly drink my insulin would never go above probably
    40. So she was extremely insulin resistant. What was
    happening was she was controlling her blood sugar.
    Statistically she was not diabetic. She is not even
    impaired glucose tolerant. Her glucose is totally normal
    supposedly. But her cells aren't listening to insulin,
    she just has an exceptionally strong pancreas. Her islet
    cells that produce insulin are extremely strong and are
    able to compensate for that insulin resistance by
    producing thirty times more insulin than what my fasting
    insulin is. And just by mass action her pancreas is
    yelling so loud that her cells are able to listen, but
    they are not going to listen forever. Her pancreas is
    not going to be able keep up that production forever.
    Well the usual treatment once she becomes diabetic,
    which would be inevitable, once her production of
    insulin starts slowing down or her resistance goes up
    any more, than her blood sugar goes up and she becomes a
    diabetic. For many years, decades before that her
    insulin levels have been elevated. They have been
    elevated for thirty years probably and have never been
    checked. That insulin resistance is associated with the
    hyperinsulinemia that produces all of the co-called
    chronic diseases of aging or at least contributes to
    them. As far as we know in many venues of science, it is
    the main cause of aging in virtually all life. Insulin
    is that important. So controlling insulin sensitivity is
    extremely important. How else does insulin affect
    cardiovascular disease? We've only just touched upon it.
    Insulin is a so-called mytogenic hormone. It stimulates
    cell proliferation. It stimulates cells to divide. If
    all of the cells were to become resistant to insulin we
    wouldn't have that much of a problem. The problem is
    that all of the cells don't become resistant. Some cells
    are incapable of becoming very resistant. The liver
    becomes resistant first, then the muscle tissue, then
    the fat. When the liver becomes resistant, what is the
    effect of insulin on the liver, it is to suppress the
    production of sugar. The sugar floating around in your
    body at any one time is the result of two things, the
    sugar that you have eaten and how much sugar your liver
    has made. When you wake up in the morning it is more of
    a reflection of how much sugar your liver has made. If
    your liver is listening to insulin properly it won't
    make much sugar in the middle of the night. If your
    liver is resistant, those brakes are lifted and your
    liver starts making a bunch of sugar so you wake up with
    a bunch of sugar. The next tissue to become resistant is
    the muscle tissue. What is the action of insulin in
    muscles? It allows your muscles to burn sugar for one
    thing. So if your muscles become resistant to insulin it
    can't burn that sugar that was just manufactured by the
    liver. So the liver is producing too much, the muscles
    can't burn it, and this raises your blood sugar. Well
    the fat cells become resistant, but not for a while. It
    is only after a while that they become resistant. It
    takes them longer. Liver first, muscle second, and then
    your fat cells. So for a while your fat cells retain
    their sensitivity. What is the action of insulin on your
    fat cells? To store that fat. It takes sugar and it
    stores it as fat. So until your fat cells become
    resistant you get fat, and that is what you see. As
    people become more and more insulin resistant, they get
    fat and their weight goes up. But eventually they
    plateau. They might plateau at three hundred pounds, two
    hundred and twenty pounds, one hundred and fifty pounds,
    but they will eventually plateau as the fat cells
    protect themselves and become insulin resistant. As all
    these major tissues, this massive body becomes
    resistant, your liver, muscles and fat, your pancreas is
    putting out more insulin to compensate, so you are
    hyperinsulinemic and you've got insulin floating around
    all the time, 90 units, more. But there are certain
    tissues that aren't becoming resistant such as your
    endothelium, the lining of the arteries do not become
    resistant very readily. So all that insulin is effecting
    the lining of your arteries. If you drip insulin into
    the artery of a dog, there was a Dr. Cruz who did this
    in the early 70's by accident, he was doing a diabetic
    experiment and found out that the femeral artery that
    the insulin was being dripped into was almost totally
    occluded with plaque after about three months. The
    contra lateral side was totally clear, just contact of
    insulin in the artery caused it to fill up with plaque.
    That has been known since the 70's, it has been repeated
    in chickens, in dogs, it is really a well-known fact.
    Insulin floating around in the blood causes a plaque
    build up. They didn't know why, but we know that insulin
    causes endothelial proliferation, that's the first step,
    it causes a tumor, an endothelial tumor. Insulin causes
    the blood to clot too readily. Insulin causes the
    conversion of macrophages into foam cells, which are the
    cells that accumulate the fatty deposits. Every step of
    the way, insulin's got its fingers in it and is causing
    cardiovascular disease. It fills it with plaque, it
    constricts the arteries, it stimulates the sympathetic
    nervous system, it increases platelet adhesiveness and
    coaguability of the blood. Any known cause of
    cardiovascular disease insulin is a part of. It
    influences nitric oxide synthase. You produce less
    nitric oxide in the endothelium. We know that helps
    mediate vasodilatation and constriction, i.e. angina. I
    mentioned that insulin increases cellular proliferation,
    what does that do to cancer? It increases it. And there
    are some pretty strong studies that show that one of the
    strongest correlations to breast and colon cancer are
    with levels of insulin. Hyperinsulinemia causes the
    excretion of magnesium in the urine. What other big
    mineral does it cause the excretion of? Calcium. What is
    the cause of osteoporosis? There are two major causes,
    one is a high carbohydrate diet which causes
    hyperinsulinemia. People walking around with
    hyperinsulinemia can take all the calcium they want by
    mouth and it's all going to go out in their urine.
    Insulin is one of the first hormones that any organism
    ever developed, and as I mentioned in genetics, things
    are built upon what was there before. So all the other
    hormones we have in our body were actually built upon
    insulin. In other words, insulin controls growth
    hormone. How does growth hormone work? The pituitary
    produces growth hormone, and then it goes to the liver
    and the liver produces what are called IgF 1 thru 4,
    there are probably more. What does IgF stand for? Insulin-
    like growth factor. They are the active ingredients.
    Growth hormone has some small effects on its own, but
    the major growth factors are the IgF's that then
    circulatge that is associated with that day. We have
    accumulated more damage during that day, that is called
    senescence. What causes that damage? There is often an
    example of test tubes in a laboratory. You don't think
    of test tubes as aging, yet if you mark test tubes with
    a little red dot and counted the number of test tubes
    there were at the end of the year with a little red dot
    left, there would hardly be any, why, because they have
    encountered damage. They've broken, so even though there
    is not aging they do have immortality rates. Aging is an
    increase in the rate of mortality. In humans, the rate
    of mortality doubles every eight years. That is really
    how you gauge the rate of aging. We found in animal
    studies that the rate of aging can be largely controlled
    by insulin. But the damage that accumulates during that
    aging is caused by largely by sugar. The two major
    causes of accumulated damage are oxygenation, and
    glycation. I'm not going to spend my time talking about
    oxidation. Most of you know all about that. What is
    oxidation? There are several definitions but we can use
    a very common one, whenever oxygen combines with
    something, it oxidizes. Oxygen is a very poisonous
    substance. Throughout most of the history of life on
    Earth there was no oxygen. Organisms had to develop very
    specific mechanisms of dealing with high levels of
    oxygen before there could ever be life with oxygen. So
    we evolved very quickly, as plants arose and developed a
    very easy means of acquiring energy, they could just lay
    back and catch rays, and they dealt with that oxygen
    with the carbon dioxide by spitting it out, they didn't
    want it around. So the oxygen in the atmosphere
    increased. All the other organisms then had to cope with
    that toxic oxygen. Many perished if they didn't have
    ways of dealing with it. One of the earliest ways of
    dealing with all that oxygen was for the cells to huddle
    together, so that at least the interior cells wouldn't
    be exposed to as much. So, multi-celled organisms arose
    after oxygen did. Of course, with that came the need for
    cellular communication. So let's talk about glycation.
    Everyone knows that oxygen causes damage, but
    unfortunately, the press has not been as kind to
    publicize glycation. Glycation is the same as oxidation
    except substitute the word glucose. When you glycate
    something you combine it with glucose. Glucose combines
    with anything else really, it's a very sticky molecule.
    Just take sugar on your fingers. It's very sticky. It
    sticks specifically to proteins. So the glycation of
    proteins is extremely important. If it sticks around a
    while it produces what are called advanced glycated end
    products. That acronym is not an accident; it stands for
    A.G.E.'s. If you can turn over, or re-manufacture the
    protein that's good, and it increases the rate of
    protein turnover if you are lucky. Glycation damages the
    protein to the extent that white blood cells will come
    around and gobble it up and get rid of it, so then you
    have to produce more, putting more of a strain on your
    ability to repair and maintain your body. That is the
    best alternative; the worst alternative is when those
    proteins get glycated that can't turn over very rapidly,
    like collagen, or like a protein that makes up nerve
    tissue. These proteins cannot be gotten rid of, so the
    protein accumulates, and the A.G.E.'s accumulate and
    they continue to damage. That includes the collagen that
    makes up the matrix of your arteries. A.G.E.'s are so
    bad that we know that there are receptors for A.G.E.'s,
    hundreds of receptors for every macrophage. They are
    designed to try to get rid of those
    i.s.A.'s, but what happens when a macrophage combines with
    an
    i.s.B. product?he mechanisms for applotosis, which is the
    medical term for chemical suicide. So we know that it
    plays a role. Let's get to diet. Diet really becomes
    pretty simple. Carbohydrates we started talking
    about. You've got fiber and non-fiber and that's real
    clear-cut. Fiber is good, non-fiber is bad. Fibrous
    carbs, like vegetables and broccoli, those are great.
    What is a potato? A potato is a big lump of sugar.
    That's all it is. You chew a potato, what are you
    swallowing? Glucose. You may not remember, but you
    learned that in eighth grade, but the medical
    profession still hasn't learned that. What is the
    major salivary enzyme? Amylase. What is amylase used
    for? To break down amylose which is just a tree of
    glucose molecules. What is a slice of bread? A slice
    of sugar. Does it have anything else good about it?
    Virtually no. Somebody emailed me who had decided to
    do a little research. And there are fifty-some
    essential nutrients to the human body. You know you
    need to breathe oxygen. It gives us life and it kills
    us. Same with glucose. Certain tissues require some
    glucose. We wouldn't be here if there were no
    glucose, it gives us life and it kills us. We know
    that we have essential amino acids and we have
    essential fatty acids. They are essential for life,
    we better take them in as building blocks or we die.
    So what he did is he took all the essential nutrients
    that are known to man and plugged it in to this
    computer data bank and he asked the computer what are
    the top ten foods that contain each nutrient that is
    required by the human body. Each of the fifty-three
    or fifty-four, depending on who you talk to,
    essential nutrients that there are were plugged in,
    and did you know that grains did not come up in the
    top ten on any one. What is the minimum daily
    requirement for carbohydrates? ZERO. What is the food
    pyramid based on? A totally irrelevant nutrient.
    Let's go beyond Carbohydrates. Let's back up even
    further? Why do we eat? One reason is energy. That's
    half of the reason. It is very simple, there are two
    reasons why we eat, one is to gather energy. We need
    to obtain energy. The other essential reason (Not
    just for fun! Fun is a good one, but you won't have
    much fun if you eat too much.) Is to replace tissue,
    to gather up building blocks for maintenance and
    repair. Those are the two essential reasons that we
    need to eat. We need the building blocks and we need
    fuel, not the least of which is to have energy to
    obtain those building blocks and then to have energy
    to fuel those chemical reactions to use those
    building blocks. So what are the building blocks that
    are needed, proteins and fatty acids. Not much in the
    way if carbohydrates. You can get all the
    carbohydrates you need from proteins and fats. So the
    building blocks are covered by proteins and fats.
    What about fuel? That's the other reason we eat.
    There are two kinds of fuel that your body can use
    with minor exceptions, sugar and fat. We mentioned
    earlier that the body is going to store excess eneght
    now should be almost all fat. But what happens if you
    eat sugar. Your body's main way of getting rid of it,
    because it is toxic, is to burn it. That which your
    body can't burn your body will get rid of by storing
    it as glycogen and when that gets filled up your body
    stores it as fat. If you eat sugar your body will
    burn it and you stop burning fat. We talked about a
    lot of the effects of high insulin. We talked about
    insulin causing the formation of saturated fat from
    sugar. Another major effect of insulin on fat is it
    prevents you from burning
    it. What happens when you are insulin resistant and you have
    a bunch of insulin floating around all the time, you
    wake up in the morning with an insulin of 90. How much
    fat are you going to be burning? Virtually none. What
    are you going to burn if not fat? Sugar coming from your
    muscle. So you have all this fat that you've accumulated
    over the years that your body is very adept at adding
    to. Every time you have any excess energy you are going
    to store it as fat, but if you don't eat, where you
    would otherwise be able to burn it, you cannot and you
    will still burn sugar because that is all your body is
    capable of burning anymore. Where is it going to get the
    sugar? Well you don't store much of it in the form of
    sugar so it will take it from your muscle. That's your
    body's major depot of sugar. You just eat up your muscle
    tissue. Any time you have excess you store it as fat and
    any time you are deficient you burn up your muscle.
    Getting back to the macronutrients, fuel, fat is your
    best fuel by far and the fuel that your body wants to
    use. So there are two reasons to eat, you need to gather
    the building blocks for maintenance and repair, that's
    protein and fat, no carbohydrate needed, and you eat for
    fuel, without question, fat is your most efficient fuel
    and the fuel that your body desires the most. So where
    do carbohydrates come in? They don't. There is no
    essential need for carbohydrates. SO why are we all
    eating carbohydrates? To keep the rate of aging up, we
    don't want to pay social security to everyone. I didn't
    say you can't have any carbs, I said fiber is good.
    Vegetables are great, I want you to eat vegetables. The
    practical aspect of it is that you are going to get
    carbs, but there is no essential need. The traditional
    Eskimo diet for most of the year subsists on almost no
    vegetables at all, but they get their vitamins from
    organ meats and things like eyeball which are a
    delicacy, or were. So, you don't really need it, but
    sure, vegetables are good for you and you should eat
    them. They are part of the diet that I would recommend,
    and that is where you'll get your vitamin C. I recommend
    Vitamin C supplements, I don't have anything against
    taking supplements, I use a lot of them. Fruit is a
    mixed blessing. You can divide food on a continuum.
    There are some foods that I really can't say anything
    good about since there is no reason really to recommend
    them. And the other end of the spectrum are foods that
    are totally essential, like omega 3 fatty acids for
    instance which most people are very deficient in, and
    even those have a detriment because they are highly
    oxidizable, so you had better have the antioxidant
    capacity. So if you are going to supploods do to their
    blood sugar. It doesn't take much. What is very
    surprising to these people once they really measure is
    what little carbohydrate it takes to cause your blood
    sugar to skyrocket. One saltine cracker will take the
    blood sugar to go over 100 and in many people it will
    cause the blood sugar to go to 150 for a variety of
    reasons, not just the sugar in it. (Someone in the
    audience asks an illegible question to which
    iu. Rosedale responds?) When you are eating a high
    carbohydrate diet, when you are born, your mother,
    everbody is telling you to eat a bowl of Cheerios for
    breakfast. You eat that bowl of cheerios and that turns
    to sugar, and your sugar goes up very rapidly and that
    causes a big rush of insulin and your body all of a
    sudden senses a huge amount of sugar being delivered to
    it at once, of which it was never used to, in an
    evolutionary sense. We only have one hormone that lowers
    sugar, and that's insulin. Its primary use was never to
    lower sugar. We've got a bunch of hormones that raise
    sugar, cortisone being one and growth hormone another,
    and epinephrine, and glucagon. Our primary evolutionary
    problem was to raise blood sugar to give your brain
    enough and your nerves enough and primarily red blood
    cells, which require glucose. So from an evolutionary
    sense if something is important we have redundant
    mechanisms. The fact that we only have one hormone that
    lowers sugar tells us that it was never something
    important in the past. So you get this rush of sugar and
    your body panics, your pancreas panics and it stores,
    when it is healthy, insulin in these granules, ready to
    be released. It lets these granules out and it pours out
    a bunch of insulin to deal with this onslaught of sugar
    and what does that do? Well the pancreas generally
    overcompensates, and it causes your sugar to go down,
    and just as I mentioned, you have got a bunch of
    hormones then to raise your blood sugar, they are then
    released, including cortisone. The biggest stress on
    your body is eating a big glucose load. Then Epinephrine
    is released too, so it makes your nervous and it also
    stimulates your brain to crave carbohydrates, to seek
    out some sugar, my sugar is low. So you are craving
    carbohydrates, so you eat another bowl of cheerios, or a
    big piece of fruit, you eat something else so that after
    your sugar goes low, and with the hormone release, and
    with the sugar cravings and carbohydrate craving your
    sugars go way up again which causes your pancreas to
    release more insulin and then it goes way down. Now you
    are in to this sinusoidal wave of blood sugar, which
    causes insulin resistance. Your body can't stand that
    for very long. So you are constantly putting out
    cortisone. We talk about insulin resistance. We hear a
    lot about insulin resistance, but stop and think a
    little bit, do you think our cells only become resistant
    to insulin? The more hormones your cells are exposed to,
    the more resistant they will become to almost any
    hormone. Certain cells more than others, so there is a
    discrepancy. The problem with hormone resistance is that
    there is a dichotomy of resistance, that all the cells
    don't become resistant at the same time. And different
    hormones affect different cells, and the rate of hormone
    is different among different cells and this causes lots
    of problems with the feedback mechanisms. We know that
    one of the major areas of the body thand it only made
    sense to me that you don't want to feed these people
    carbohydrates, so I put him on a low carbohydrate diet.
    He was an exceptional case, after a month to six weeks
    he was totally off of insulin. He had been on 200 some
    units of insulin for twenty-five years. He was so
    insulin resistant, one thing good about it is that when
    you lower that insulin, that insulin is having such
    little effect on him that you can massively lower the
    insulin and its not going to have much of an effect on
    his blood sugar either. 200 units of insulin is not
    going to lower your sugar any more that 300
    mg/deciliter. You know that the insulin is not doing
    much. So we could rapidly take him off the insulin and
    he was actually cured of his diabetes in a matter of
    weeks. So he became sensitive enough, he was still
    producing a lot of insulin on his own, then we were able
    to measure his own insulin and it was still elevated,
    and then it took a long time, maybe six months or longer
    to bring that insulin down. It will probably never get
    to the point of the sensitivity of a ten year old, but
    yes, your number of insulin receptors increases, and the
    activity of the receptors, the chemical reactions that
    occur beyond the receptor occur more efficiently.
    Tyrosine kinase. You can increase sensitivity by diet,
    that is one of the major reasons you want to take Omega
    3 oils. We think of circulation as that which flows
    through arteries and veins, and that is not a minor part
    of our circulation, but it might not even be the major
    part. The major part of circulation is what goes in and
    out of the cell. The cell membrane is a fluid mosaic.
    The major part of our circulation is determined by what
    goes in and out. It doesn't make any difference what
    gets to that cell if it can't get into the cell. We know
    that one of the major ways that you can affect cellular
    circulation is by modulating the kinds of fatty acids
    that you eat. So you can increase receptor sensitivity
    by increasing the fluidity of the cell membrane, which
    means increasing the omega 3 content, because most
    people are very deficient. They say that you are what
    you eat and that mostly pertains to fat because the
    fatty acids that you eat are the ones that will
    generally get incorporated into the cell membrane. The
    cell membranes are going to be a reflection of your
    dietary fat and that will determine the fluidity of your
    cell membrane. You can actually make them over fluid. If
    you eat too much and you incorporate too many omega 3
    oils then they will become highly oxidizable (so you
    have to eat Vitamin E as well and monounsaturates as
    well) There was an interesting article pertaining to
    this where they had a breed of rat that was genetically
    susceptible to cancer. What they did was they fed them a
    high omega 3 diet, plus iron, without any extra Vitamin
    E and they were able to almost shrink down the tumors to
    nothing, because tumors are rapidly dividing. This is
    like a form of chemotherapy, and the membranes that were
    being formed in these tumor cells were very high in
    omega three oils, the iron acted as a catalyst for that
    oxidation, and the cells were exploding from getting
    oxidized so rapidly. So omega 3 oils can be a double
    edged sword. Most food is a double edged sword. Like
    oxygen and glucose, they keep us alive and they kill us,
    eating is the biggest stress we put on our body and that
    is why in caloric restriction experiments you can extend
    life as long as yres, or at least estimate it by their
    activity level. The book Protein Power actually went
    very well in to this. You have to calculate how much
    protein is required by their activity level and their
    lean body mass. There is still some grey area as to how
    many grams per kilogram of lean body mass, depending on
    the activity that person requires. Anywhere perhaps one
    to two grams of protein per kilogram of lean body mass,
    maybe even a little bit higher if someone is really
    active. You don't want to go under that for very long.
    I'd say that it is better to go over than to go under
    that amount for very long. But I especially don't want
    my diabetic patients, which means all of us, because in
    a very real sense we really all have diabetes, it is
    just a matter of degree, we all have a certain degree of
    insulin resistance. If you can cure a diabetic of
    diabetes, you can do the same thing to a so-called non-
    diabetic person and still improve that person. I want to
    improve my insulin sensitivity just as much as I do my
    diabetics because insulin sensitivity is going to
    determine for the most part how long you are going to
    live and how healthy you are going to be. It determines
    the rate of aging more so than anything else we know
    right now. (Question: What about supplements such as
    Chromium for example?) Chromium, it depends on who you
    are dealing with, but are we talking about a diabetic
    patient which is supposed to be the topic of this talk,
    yes, all my diabetics go on 1,000 mcg. Of chromium, some
    a little bit more if they are really big people. Usually
    500mcg for a non-diabetic. It depends on their insulin
    levels. I don't care so much what their sugar levels
    are, I care what their insulin levels are, which is a
    reflection of their insulin sensitivity. We are talking
    about hyperinsulinemia or non-hyper-insulinemia. Its
    insulin we should be concerned about. I use a lot of
    supplements. What you really want to do, and my purpose
    mostly is to try to convert that person back into being
    an efficient burner of fat. We talked about when you are
    very insulin resistant and you are waking up in the
    morning with an insulin that is elevated, you cannot
    burn fat, you are burning sugar. They don't know how to
    burn fat anymore and that is your best fuel. One of the
    reasons that sugar goes up so high is because that is
    what your cell is needing to burn, but if it is so
    insulin resistant it requires a blood sugar of 300 so
    that just by mass action some can get in to the cell and
    be used as fuel. If you eliminate that need to burn
    sugar, you don't need such high levels of sugar even if
    you are insulin resistant. So you want to increase the
    ability of the cells in the body to burn fat. You want
    to make that glucose burner into a fat burner. You want
    to make a gasoline burning car into a diesel burning
    car. Did anyone ever look at the molecular structure of
    diesel fuel in your spare time? It looks almost
    identical to a fatty acid. There is a company right now
    that can tell you how to alter vegetable oil to use in
    your Mercedes. It's just a matter of thinning it out a
    little bit. It is a very efficient fuel. (Question) You
    can look at other variables that will give you some idea
    too such as triglycerides. If they are very sensitive to
    high levels of insulin, they come in with insulin levels
    of 14 and they have triglycerides of 1000, then you
    would treat them just as you would if they had an
    insulin level of 50. It gives yoding before an event.
    What happens if you eat a bowl of pasta before you have
    to run a marathon. What does that bowl of pasta do? It
    raises your insulin. What is the instruction of insulin
    to your body? To store energy and not burn it. I see a
    fair amount of athletes and this is what I tell them,
    you want everybody, athletes especially, to be able to
    burn fat efficiently. So when they train, they are on a
    very low carbohydrate diet. The night before their
    event, they can stock up on sugar and load their
    glycogen if they would like. They are not going to
    become insulin resistant in one day. Just enough to make
    sure, it has been shown that if you eat a big
    carbohydrate meal that you will increase your glycogen
    stores, that is true and that is what you want. But you
    don't want to train that way because if you do you won't
    be able to burn fat, you can only burn sugar, and if you
    are an athlete you want to be able to burn both. Few
    people have problems burning sugar if they are an
    athlete, but they have lots of problems burning fat, so
    they hit the wall. And for a certain event like
    sprinting it is less important, truthfully, for their
    health it is very important to be able to burn fat, but
    a sprinter will go right into burning sugar. If you are
    a 50 yard dash man, whether you can burn fat or not is
    not going to make a huge difference in your final
    performance. Beyond your athletic years if you don't
    want to become a diabetic, and if you don't want to die
    of heart disease and if you don't want to age quickly?It
    is certainly not going to do you any harm to be able to
    burn fat efficiently in addition to sugar. (Question)
    Carnitine? Carnitine is a shuttle. It takes fatty acids
    into the cell. You can't burn fat without it. I say they
    should take as much carnitine as they can afford. Co Q
    10 is a biggie, it is involved in the energy production
    of all cells. It protects the mitochondria from electron
    leakage and damage. Give anywhere from 100 to 500mg,
    depending on the kind of Q10, some are more absorbable
    than others. Vanadyl Sulfate is an insulin mimic, so
    that it can basically do what insulin does by a
    different mechanism. If it went through the same insulin
    receptors, then it wouldn't offer any benefit, but it
    doesn't, it actually has been shown to go through a
    different mechanism to lower blood sugar, so it spares
    insulin and then it can help improve insulin
    sensitivity. On someone who I am trying to really get
    their insulin down I go 25mg 3X/day temporarily. B
    Vitamins are necessary in the conversion of all energy,
    so they all get extra B Vitamins, usually in a multi. I
    put people on glutamine powder. Glutamine can act really
    as a brain fuel, so it helps eliminate carbohydrate
    cravings while they are in that transition period. I
    like to give it to them at night and I tell them to use
    it whenever they feel they are craving carbohydrates.
    They can put several grams into a little water and drink
    it and it helps eliminate carbohydrate cravings between
    meals. (Question) It is a high protein diet that will
    increase an acid load in the body, but not necessarily a
    high fat diet. Vegetables and greens are alkalinizing,
    so if you are eating a lot of vegetables along with your
    protein it equalizes the acidifying effect of the
    protein. I don't recommend a high protein diet. I
    recoquires. We just have one name for fat, we call it
    fat or oil. Eskimos have dozens of names for snow and
    east Indians have dozens of names for curry. We should
    have dozens of names for fat because they do many
    different things. And how much of which fat to take is
    still open to a lot of investigation and controversy. My
    take on fat is that if I am treating a patient who is
    generally hyperinsulinemic or overweight, I want them on
    a low saturated fat diet. Because most of the fat they
    are storing is saturated fat. When their insulin goes
    down and they are able to start releasing triglycerides
    to burn as fat, what they are going to be releasing
    mostly is saturated fat. So you don't want to take
    anymore orally. There is a ration of fatty acids that is
    desirable, if you took them from the moment you were
    born, but we don't, we are dealing with an imbalance
    here that we are trying to correct as rapidly as we can.
    You have plenty of saturated fat. Most of us here have
    enough saturated fat to last the rest of our life.
    Truthfully. Your cell membranes require a balance of
    saturated and poly-unsaturated fat, and it is that
    balance that determines the fluidity. As I mentioned,
    your cells can become over-fluid if they don't have any
    saturated fat. Saturated fat is a hard fat. We can get
    the fats from foods to come mostly from nuts. Nuts are a
    great food because it is mostly mono-unsaturated. Your
    primary energy source ideally would come mostly from mono-
    unsaturated fat. It's a good compromise. It is not an
    essential fat, but it is a more fluid fat. Your body can
    utilize it very well as an energy source. (Question)
    Animal proteins are fine and are good for you, but not
    the ones that are fed grains. Grainfed animals are going
    to make saturated fat out of the grains. Saturated fat
    in nature occurs to a very tiny degree. Not in the wild
    there is very little saturated fat out there. If you
    talk about the Paleolithic diet, we didn't eat a
    saturated fat diet. Saturated fat diets are new to
    mankind. We manufactured a saturated fat diet by feeding
    animals grains. You can consider saturated fat to be
    second generation carbohydrates. We eat the saturated
    fats that other animals produce from carbohydrates.
    (Question) Zone was a good diet compared to the American
    diet it was unusual. Is it an optimal diet? No. Is it
    optimal for what is known today about nutrition, it is
    not. He is stuck in this mold he can't get out of but
    now he is trying to get out of it through the back door.
    Initially the author spoke about how it made no
    difference if you got your carbohydrate from candy or
    vegetables. The Volkswagen was a good car, but
    eventually they had to change it to keep up with modern
    technology. What he is doing now is changing his recipes
    so that the 40% carbohydrates are coming primarily from
    vegetables, and the carbohydrates are going way down
    because he knows that if he doesn't it's not as good a
    diet. (Question) I would go 20% of calories from carbs.
    Depending on the size of the person, 25 to 30% of
    calories from protein, and 60-65% from fat. You can get
    non-grain fed beef. Lasater beef is non-grain fed, and
    buffalo is non-grain fed. Insulin is not the only cause
    of disease. There are other considerations such as iron.
    We know that high iron levels are bad for you. If a
    person's ferritin is high, red meat is out for a while,
    till we get their iron down. SO there are other things
    involved about if we are going to allow a person to eat
    red meat or not. (Question) There is a great deal of
    difference between a non-grain fed cow and a grain fed
    cow. Non-grain fed will have only 10% or less saturated
    fat. Grain fed can have ovepending on what their gut can
    tolerate. I like I.V. magnesium to replenish them.
    Vitamin E, big fan of Vitamin E, I would go to 2000mg.
    Zinc, 30 to sixty mg, balanced with 2mg of copper per 15
    mg of zinc, usually 4mg of copper sebacate. Taurine: 1gm
    twice a day. Chromium 1000mcg Vanadium 25mg for about
    two to three months. Then down to 71/2 mg three times a
    day, then I'll go down further, then I take them off
    completely once they are better. They can have as much
    glutamine as they want and as much carnitine as they can
    afford. The more the better I use gymnema sylvestre a
    lot. I like sardines if they will eat them. Sardines are
    a very good therapeutic food. They are baby fish so they
    haven't had time to accumulate a bunch of metal. They
    are smoked so they are not cooked and the oil is not
    spoiled in them. You have to eat the whole thing. Not
    the boneless and skinless. You need to eat all the
    organs and they are high in vitamins and magnesium. DNA
    glycates. So if people are worried about chromosomal
    damage from chromium, what they should really be worried
    about instead is high blood sugar. DNA repair enzymes
    glycate as well. Insulin is by far your biggest poison.
    They disproved that study that was against chromium many
    times. They showed that it only happens if you put cells
    in a petrie dish with chromium but in vivo studies prove
    otherwise. The lowering of insulin is going to be better
    than any possible detriment of any of the therapies you
    are using. Insulin is associated with cancer,
    everything. Insulin should be tested on everybody
    repeatedly, and why it is not is only strictly because
    there hasn't been drugs till recently that could effect
    insulin, so there is no way to make money off of it.
    Fasting insulin is one way to look at it, not
    necessarily the best way. But it is the way that
    everybody could do it. Any family doctor can measure a
    fasting insulin. There are other ways to measure insulin
    sensitivity that are more complex that we do sometimes.
    We use intravenous insulin and watch how rapidly their
    blood sugar crashes in a fasting state in 15 minutes and
    that assesses insulin sensitivity, then you give them
    dextrose to make sure they don't crash any further.
    There are other ways that are utilized to directly
    assess insulin sensitivity, but you can get a pretty
    good idea just by doing a fasting insulin. TOP ? |
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  2. Ron Rosdales used to work with Michael and Mary Eades
    (the authors of Protein Power) in Colorado. And his book,
    The Rosedale Diet will be published in September. One
    thing he doesn't mention, is that one of the reasons why
    it is important to lower your blood sugar is so that HGH
    can be produced.

  3. On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 16:47:17 -0800, "Cynthia386"
    <[email hidden]> posted:

    Quoted message said:

    Ron Rosdales used to work with Michael and Mary Eades (the
    authors of Protein Power) in Colorado. And his book, The
    Rosedale Diet will be published in September. One thing he
    doesn't mention, is that one of the reasons why it is
    important to lower your blood sugar is so that HGH can be
    produced.

    Lower it in what respect? And is HGH not produced with a
    normal blood glucose level? I find that hard to believe.

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