Interesting TT results today (TdF, Stage 12)

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  1. Ryan M. Hare

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    from: http://www.cyclingnews.com/road/2003/tour03/?id=results/stage12

    Results 1 Jan Ullrich (Ger) Team Bianchi 58.32.92
    (48.178 km/h) 2 Lance Armstrong (USA) US Postal-Berry Floor 1.35.13 3 Alexandre Vinokourov (Kaz)
    Team Telekom 2.05.94 4 Haimar Zubeldia (Spa) Euskaltel-Euskadi 2.39.39 5 Tyler Hamilton (USA)
    Team CSC 2.42.52 6 Uwe Peschel (Ger) Gerolsteiner 3.25.27 7 David Millar (GBr) Cofidis, Credit
    Par Telephone 3.54.25 8 Inigo Chaurreau (Spa) Ag2R Prevoyance 4.00.71 9 David Plaza (Spa) Team
    Bianchi 4.36.87 10 Santiago Botero (Col) Team Telekom 4.59.16 11 Francisco Mancebo (Spa)
    iBanesto.com 4.59.40 12 Iban Mayo (Spa) Euskaltel-Euskadi 5.02.71

    Am I correct in thinking this is the first time Ullrich has beaten Armstrong in a TdF time trial?

    I sure hope you guys who thought this year's Tour was going to be a snooze-fest are paying
    attention now!

    Ryan
     
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  2. Bob M

    Bob M Guest

    On 18 Jul 2003 18:03:43 GMT, Ryan M. Hare <[email protected]> wrote:

    > from: http://www.cyclingnews.com/road/2003/tour03/?id=results/stage12
    >
    > Results 1 Jan Ullrich (Ger) Team Bianchi
    > 58.32.92
    > (48.178 km/h) 2 Lance Armstrong (USA) US Postal-Berry Floor 1.35.13 3 Alexandre Vinokourov (Kaz)
    > Team Telekom 2.05.94 4 Haimar Zubeldia (Spa) Euskaltel-Euskadi 2.39.39 5 Tyler Hamilton (USA)
    > Team CSC 2.42.52 6 Uwe Peschel (Ger) Gerolsteiner 3.25.27 7 David Millar (GBr) Cofidis, Credit
    > Par Telephone 3.54.25 8 Inigo Chaurreau (Spa) Ag2R Prevoyance 4.00.71 9 David Plaza (Spa) Team
    > Bianchi 4.36.87 10 Santiago Botero (Col) Team Telekom 4.59.16 11 Francisco Mancebo (Spa)
    > iBanesto.com 4.59.40 12 Iban Mayo (Spa) Euskaltel-Euskadi 5.02.71
    >
    >
    > Am I correct in thinking this is the first time Ullrich has beaten Armstrong in a TdF time trial?
    >
    > I sure hope you guys who thought this year's Tour was going to be a snooze-fest are paying
    > attention now!
    >
    > Ryan
    >
    >
    >

    Wow! That's 29.9 mile/hour (mph).

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  3. "Dominic Richens" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    > Vinokourov is proving to be a revelation as well.

    I don't understand how a guy can win what is arguably the fourth toughest national tour in the world
    (Tour of Switzerland), the second or third largest stage race in France (Paris-Nice) at least twice,
    medal in the Olympics, win a world cup race, and then be called a "revelation" _now_.

    JT

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  4. Dominic Richens wrote:

    > What happened to Etxebarria? He's DFL. ... 166 David Etxebarria (Spa) Euskaltel-Euskadi 14.21.22

    He got 2:05 time penalty for following another rider (5km at 41 km/h).

    U. Extebarria got 5:51 penalty (13km at 43km/h)

    The winner in this categroy: Glomser 6:43 (13 km at 44 km/h)

    Dieter
     
  5. Mark Janeba

    Mark Janeba Guest

    Dieter Buerssner wrote:
    > Dominic Richens wrote:
    >>What happened to Etxebarria? He's DFL. ... 166 David Etxebarria (Spa) Euskaltel-Euskadi 14.21.22
    >
    >
    > He got 2:05 time penalty for following another rider (5km at 41 km/h).
    >
    > U. Extebarria got 5:51 penalty (13km at 43km/h)
    >
    > The winner in this categroy: Glomser 6:43 (13 km at 44 km/h)

    Are these guys doing this to save some energy for the mountains? Is the penalty formula figured to
    give the riders "the time they would have got" or is it harsher than that?

    I can understand being so cooked that instincts take over for a minute or so and you follow the
    wheel that passes you, but for 13km?

    Do they think "Hey, I'm far down the GC anyway, but if I wait for the guy behind me and draft for a
    quarter of the route, I'll be real fresh tommorrow" ?? Or are they so desperate to avoid the time
    cutoff on the ITT?

    I thought riders would be disqualified for something this bad - I was sure wrong.

    Mark Janeba
     
  6. Ryan M. Hare

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    "John Forrest Tomlinson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:%[email protected]...
    > "Dominic Richens" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    > > Vinokourov is proving to be a revelation as well.
    >
    > I don't understand how a guy can win what is arguably the fourth toughest national tour in the
    > world (Tour of Switzerland), the second or third largest stage race in France (Paris-Nice) at
    > least twice, medal in the Olympics, win a world cup race,

    Amstel Gold 2003

    He won Paris-Nice in 2002 and 2003. Won the Deutschland Tour in 2001. He's a talented
    rider, no doubt.

    > and then be called a "revelation" _now_.

    No doubt! He's a "revelation" only to those who follow the Tour and nothing else.

    Ryan
     
  7. Garry Allen

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    Bob M <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > On 18 Jul 2003 18:03:43 GMT, Ryan M. Hare <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > > from: http://www.cyclingnews.com/road/2003/tour03/?id=results/stage12
    > >
    > > Results 1 Jan Ullrich (Ger) Team Bianchi
    > > 58.32.92
    > > (48.178 km/h) 2 Lance Armstrong (USA) US Postal-Berry Floor 1.35.13 3 Alexandre Vinokourov (Kaz)
    > > Team Telekom 2.05.94 4 Haimar Zubeldia (Spa) Euskaltel-Euskadi 2.39.39 5 Tyler Hamilton
    > > (USA) Team CSC 2.42.52 6 Uwe Peschel (Ger) Gerolsteiner 3.25.27 7 David Millar (GBr)
    > > Cofidis, Credit Par Telephone 3.54.25 8 Inigo Chaurreau (Spa) Ag2R Prevoyance 4.00.71 9
    > > David Plaza (Spa) Team Bianchi 4.36.87 10 Santiago Botero (Col) Team Telekom 4.59.16 11
    > > Francisco Mancebo (Spa) iBanesto.com 4.59.40 12 Iban Mayo (Spa) Euskaltel-Euskadi 5.02.71
    > >
    > >
    > > Am I correct in thinking this is the first time Ullrich has beaten Armstrong in a TdF time
    > > trial?
    > >
    > > I sure hope you guys who thought this year's Tour was going to be a snooze-fest are paying
    > > attention now!
    > >
    > > Ryan
    > >
    > >
    > >
    >
    > Wow! That's 29.9 mile/hour (mph).

    Prologue? Its not the first time Der Kaiser has beaten LA in a time trial (e.g. 2000 Olympics) but
    what a great ride. And look who he beat too. Uwe Peschel was the one I was expecting to win. 2002
    World Champion - Botero. David Millar. And LA

    He certainly reiterated the statement he made in the prologue. He looked very powerful and smooth in
    that stage.

    And he could well have another great second half of the season. Has Bianchi been invited to
    the Vuelta?

    The other standout is Vinokorouv. He ahs really stepped up this year for telekom. He has had a
    great season since Paris Nice and this has certainly confirmed his aspirations for GC Garry Allen
    looking forward to the highlights on SBS tonight and the last hour and a half of stage 14 live
    tomorrow night.
     
  8. Wayne

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    "Dominic Richens" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > Ryan M. Hare wrote:
    > > from: http://www.cyclingnews.com/road/2003/tour03/?id=results/stage12
    > >
    >
    > Yes, definitely interesting. Vinokourov is proving to be a revelation aswell.
    >
    > What happened to Etxebarria? He's DFL. ... 166 David Etxebarria (Spa) Euskaltel-Euskadi 14.21.22

    Both Etxebarria's (amongst others) were given time penalties for drafting, but those two ended up
    out of the time limit as a result and are excluded from the race.
     
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