No Muslims, Jews, atheists or agnostics need apply. And I'm supposed to find this is just wonderful? How about cycling for all? Why exclusionary biking?KittyHawk1 said:http://www.iowachristiancycling.com
Check it out!
If you meet a rider trying to do that at least you'll get that extra spurt of energy to make the break!To expose each cyclist we encounter to the love and peace of Jesus Christ, so they may want to have a relationship with Him.
rdk was making a joke. If you set aside your own hostility, bigotry, and intolerance long enough, you might have thought it was funny.Saus said:Let me be blunt (again):
This is a CYCLING forum. If I were in the business of selling bike accessories and tried to post a free ad by means of posting here, I suppose it would be considered spam. How is this different?
It never ceases to give me an "extra burst of energy" when someone who wants to share their religious views with me does not have the same interest in my sharing my religious views with them.
I think that the next time this happens, I will be blunt - again - and tell such person that I find his or her "one and only way" to the almighty to be most arrogant at best and insulting to my own very strongly held belief that there is no one way (assuming for the sake of argument that there is ANY way).
I would just like to gently point out that if you want to do what you can to protect their right to espouse their views, you wouldn't care about someone posting a link to a cycling club that some other people might be interested in. In other words you are against the posting of the link because you disagree with the views of the people in the group. That is exclusionary.Saus said:I do appreciate the humor in getting a shot of energy from a shot of proselitization.
I appreciate your take on my post, because it indicates that my post apparently may have conveyed something somewhat different from what I intended and feel. I am opposed to bigotry and intolerance (except that I'm bigoted against bigotry and intolerant of intolerance) and I find that exclusionary views that espouse the "one true way" have created more hostility than peace. Religion appears to me to be the epitome of bigotry and intolerance.
Of this, however, I truly feel intolerant: That someone who finds it important to share his or her religious views with me almost always has no interest hearing about my own religious views. I feel intolerant of that, although I would do what I can to protect their right to espouse their views. I treat the LDS elders and Jehovah's Witnesses that come to my door with courtesy, notwithstanding that I myself find religion in most cases to be the end rather than the beginning of discovery.
My own family members respectively embrace different religions and views of religion - Luthern, Jewish, Catholic, Islam, Methodist, atheist and agnostic. I tolerate and them all notwithstanding. I behave resectfully and courteously toward then all, and I expect to be afforded the same from each of them.
The first post in this thread is spam for another web site that obviously - at least, obviously to me - is for an exclusionary group. I'm entitled to my opinion, just as you're entitled to yours. In my opinion, the post has no business being here. The views of the moderators may differ, and of course, I will defer to the moderators.
I suppose it was directed at KittyHawk, but it was really just supposed to be an over-the-top if not slightly offensive joke to ease the tension in this thread and try to get everyone to ease off.Saus said:SaintsFan, at whom is your shot directed, and what's your point?
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