Fixey said:The prince of Centres has lost alot of respect down this end of the world, although he is seen as a great player he is regarded as a bit of a tool. How is he regarded as a person in the home nations?
Fixey said:The prince of Centres has lost alot of respect down this end of the world, although he is seen as a great player he is regarded as a bit of a tool. How is he regarded as a person in the home nations?
I realize a hammer is a tool, there is an alternative rock band named Tool and every man has a tool but how is it being used in your (and Fixey's) statement?limerickman said:But I'd be interested to hear the NZ view as to why he's regarded as a tool.
lwedge said:I realize a hammer is a tool, there is an alternative rock band named Tool and every man has a tool but how is it being used in your (and Fixey's) statement?
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Okay, good, I can use the term here in California and no one will know.limerickman said:Tool used as slang can mean : *****, idiot, clown.
It's a derogatory term.
Actually the band is named after the slang term... most people I know seem to use it in their vernacular so I imagine most will know.lwedge said:Okay, good, I can use the term here in California and no one will know.
wilmar13 said:Actually the band is named after the slang term... most people I know seem to use it in their vernacular so I imagine most will know.
I don't think he was targeted by the AB's when the Lions toured, it was just one of those things that happened on the field. I think he lost a lot of respect for continuing to bleet on about it, let it go, rugby is a contact sport.limerickman said:Tana Umanga and the NZ targetted the man on the Lions Tour.
That said, Brian is a superb rugby player.
Why have the NZ'ers lost respect for him?
Was it the fact that he was photographed in a bar, ****** ?
I have to say his reputation is under attack here in the press - he seems to have lost the run of himself. He was supposed to be going out with a famour Irish model but that turned out to be a career stunt for the model.
But I'd be interested to hear the NZ view as to why he's regarded as a tool.
chch_legend said:I don't think he was targeted by the AB's when the Lions toured, it was just one of those things that happened on the field. I think he lost a lot of respect for continuing to bleet on about it, let it go, rugby is a contact sport.
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Well that's just your thinking. Most people Ive heard comment on it say it looked like a targetting.
Fits in with the way modern sports are going these days. Take soccer - the elbow in the face when going for a header or the simulated foul are happening all the time in order to get an advantage. The All blacks knew that O Driscoll was the danger man and if he could be taken out, well.... But what's worse with Umaga is that spearing if it went wrong could have broken O Driscoll's neck.
It seems that since then O Driscoll has said a little too much for some people - but I don't agree with that. He discussed in a calm way, the premediated act of violence the All balcks committed against him. He seems to have been genuinely surprised at how Umaga behaved in the aftermath of the tackle.
As regards his off field behaviour, I think he is seen as a decent fella, but at the same time has all the trappings of a superstar. Of course he will annoy people because he is seems to be always in the public eye of late.
But the worst thing about all this is that he has come back as an inferior rugby player. Its my opinion that the injury trigerred the start of the decline every sportsman eventually experiences. He seems to have lost some of his speed and trickery.
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