He came first in the second TT of the Tour. And he would have come first in all the others if it wasn't for one rider in each of those races.thunder said:2nd Tour,
2nd in both Tour tts
2nd in Pais Vasco tt
2nd in Pais Vasco GC
2nd in Fleche Wallonne
is it too early to call Cadel Evans, Cadel Zabel?
you are just a ghey homophobe classicclassic1 said:Zabel has won over 200 races you idiot.
there has been a running joke on Zabel, and his second places over the last 4 years... guess you missed itclassic1 said:No I'm not. I would have called you a **** if that was the case.
The second placegetter isn't tested.thunder said:there has been a running joke on Zabel, and his second places over the last 4 years... guess you missed it
depends, in one day races they certainly areCrankyfeet said:The second placegetter isn't tested.
I was being fasseeshuss.thunder said:depends, in one day races they certainly are
you mean 2abel, don't you???thunder said:there has been a running joke on Zabel, and his second places over the last 4 years... guess you missed it
I look at the big picture. Besides, Zabel is 53 years old.thunder said:there has been a running joke on Zabel, and his second places over the last 4 years... guess you missed it
anyone count the Protour as a win? Or is the Protour, Mcquaid wind?Malkmus said:Zabel wins. Even in his twighlight years (like the last 8 years) he has a pretty impressive record. He may not be the faster sprinter anymore or at any point in his career. But he knows how to win races.
ProTour is different. It's an indication of consistency. Some would say he's consistently second.thunder said:anyone count the Protour as a win? Or is the Protour, Mcquaid wind?
but rather just...because...Contador is a drug cheat.Drongo said:ProTour is different. It's an indication of consistency. Some would say he's consistently second.
In his MTB days, he won the World Cup but not a world championship. That's kinda similar.
That said, I think Evans has come on some in recent times. He has seemed (to me, at my considerable distance) more at home around the winner's circle, racing with more confidence, as if he belongs there.
The real test is the Tour, of course, but I don't see him doing some Jana Novotna/Greg Norman-esque snatching defeat from the jaws of victory if he's in a position to win. In that sense, perhaps he is like Zabel, coming second a lot not because of mental fragility, but rather just ... because.
who says Evans is not?biker jk said:but rather just...because...Contador is a drug cheat.
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