nice reply /when trail riding i wear headphones and a few times on my own on the road /long trips i need music /i don't race and as of yet have not ridden in a group / what i like about your reply is the remark about egotistics having pissing contest/ seems a lot of what i read here comes from bike snobs /not all but alot maybe because im new to road biking ( oh sorry cycling LOL )i don't understant yet
