- Dec 23, 2006
LOL! The 'House of Cards' of crumbling. So beautiful - the truth./img/vbsmilies/smilies/wink.gif
Hee hee!! Spamming an Armstrong doping thread to sell stuff. PissaOriginally Posted by Hunterp .
Lance Armstrong and Miguel Indurain once rode together.... I was there!
Hopefully this ends soon, but not sooner then i get to find a new home for a bunch of signed Lance items.
I still think he was an amazing athlete to watch and maybe someone out there wants these things for the right reason.
Check it out and please tweet about it, or post it on FB.
The Judge did mention that the USADA's 'evidence' wouldn't pass muster in a court of law and as there was no mention of dates, events or names there was no way that Armstrong could defend himself against the charges brought forth by USADA. Maybe Lance would be better off in court if that really is the case.Originally Posted by alienator .
- I don't think the judges ruled on the merit of USADA's case, but rather on a jurisdictional points or constitutional grounds.
- The fact that he chose not to answer makes him guilty by USADA's standards, not by any court of law.
I would think that the evidential standards for criminal cases in most jurisdictions are higher than evidential standards in civil cases in those same jurisdictions.Originally Posted by swampy1970 .
The Judge did mention that the USADA's 'evidence' wouldn't pass muster in a court of law and as there was no mention of dates, events or names there was no way that Armstrong could defend himself against the charges brought forth by USADA. Maybe Lance would be better off in court if that really is the case.
If there's no evidence, only conclusions, what conclusion would you draw from that? Some have said that the USADA would only release all their details if the case proceeds but not releasing details to the defendant really makes it like attending a Kangaroo Court, which I guess, is one step up from a Witch Hunt...
Personally, I'm more for believing the comentary of a District Judge over comments made years after the fact by riders who were busted for doping and left their careers in tatters several years after leaving US Postal or Discovery or support staff that were now in jobs that paid less. The Judge seems to be the only one that hasn't been seem in a million interviews or doting the press in an attempt for fame during this affair.
It's a damage limitation exercise now for Armstrong and his public relations people.Originally Posted by jhuskey .
So easy to accept that Hamilton, Landis, Ullrich , Basso, Vino, Rasmussen and dozens more cheated. As stated Armstrong wasn't the first from that era he was one of the last and some of those never tested positive either.
This does seem to be the logical conclusion and it is not all convicted dopers that would testify. Either way the most damage I believe will be the loss of his titles. He will be fine financially and will probably thrive. I wonder if all this would have come about if he had stayed in retirement.Originally Posted by limerickman .
It's a damage limitation exercise now for Armstrong and his public relations people.
Armstrong knows that if the USADA case went to a full public hearing, the line up of people who would be brought to the hearing to testify against him would be damning.
What are they going to do?Originally Posted by jhuskey .
ApparentlyJan is being gasked if he would take the three titles. It puts him in a bad position.