Having a chat to "you know who" this morn and he said in the past month & half, 15 different people have brought in mass produced "name" bikes to him for correction fitting, bikes they have bought from the LBS's around Melb. and new purchases had for about a month and all complain "I cant ride this bike- it hurts too much!".
is it the LBS's who have no idea about fit, is it the production bikes that are being churned out and don't deliver value/pain free riding for hard earned bucks...
I know my physiology dictates I need a custom. BUT this surely isnt the case for the bulk of riders OR IS IT.?
I ask this in good faith as it concerns me that riders are getting sore, with debilitating aches and pains which affect concentration and thus safety.
The comment was made that some of these people were told by their LBS's when they complained of sore backs and necks and hands - "You are supposed to get sore when you ride a bike, its normal!!!)...sheesh
The value for money for mass produced bikes arguments I've heard, but here we are talking about not just the lower priced offerings in the market, but the "so-called" top end things, . These are $8-10,000+ bikes, these bikes just dont cut it either and the owners are saying to "you know who", 'I want a new frame, can we use use the running gear and salvage something from all this?'. so effectively they are tossing a piece of carbon or design marvel away that is around 60-70% or more of their original purchase outlay.
I'm sure this isnt confined to Melb. If we ask the other bike fitters around the traps across Aus. (or the world, and there arnt too many,but enough) will they too have the same experience?.
This is not a push for any particular approach other than ,I hope, manufacturers and LBS's can produce/sell bikes with strict guidlines of safety first , comfort, no pain and no long term injury potential from bad fit, before greedy profit taking from mass assembly & sly marketing.
In this last decade there has been "mysterious" gradual move away from the classic design of relaxed larger frames to more smaller, compact frames , with upright forward seating positions and less relaxed angles. This has no doubt reduced production costs and maximised profit, It has also dictated that bikes are less suitable for the bulk of the market IMHO.
The emphasis on lightness too has added to this, so a smaller size offering is a nice way of saying to a bigger rider, you can get up hills easier- not . "lose that gut and the excess 15kgs you have".
I see many riders on the road on "little"bikes, that look very uncomfortable ( and probably are)...
discussion...anyone...anyone
it takes guts to admit your new purchase you have always dreamed about doesnt cut the mustard...so let us know...is there a case here?
Feedback for the manufacturers, are you one of these souls who has second thoughts about your new purchase?...
is it the LBS's who have no idea about fit, is it the production bikes that are being churned out and don't deliver value/pain free riding for hard earned bucks...
I know my physiology dictates I need a custom. BUT this surely isnt the case for the bulk of riders OR IS IT.?
I ask this in good faith as it concerns me that riders are getting sore, with debilitating aches and pains which affect concentration and thus safety.
The comment was made that some of these people were told by their LBS's when they complained of sore backs and necks and hands - "You are supposed to get sore when you ride a bike, its normal!!!)...sheesh
The value for money for mass produced bikes arguments I've heard, but here we are talking about not just the lower priced offerings in the market, but the "so-called" top end things, . These are $8-10,000+ bikes, these bikes just dont cut it either and the owners are saying to "you know who", 'I want a new frame, can we use use the running gear and salvage something from all this?'. so effectively they are tossing a piece of carbon or design marvel away that is around 60-70% or more of their original purchase outlay.
I'm sure this isnt confined to Melb. If we ask the other bike fitters around the traps across Aus. (or the world, and there arnt too many,but enough) will they too have the same experience?.
This is not a push for any particular approach other than ,I hope, manufacturers and LBS's can produce/sell bikes with strict guidlines of safety first , comfort, no pain and no long term injury potential from bad fit, before greedy profit taking from mass assembly & sly marketing.
In this last decade there has been "mysterious" gradual move away from the classic design of relaxed larger frames to more smaller, compact frames , with upright forward seating positions and less relaxed angles. This has no doubt reduced production costs and maximised profit, It has also dictated that bikes are less suitable for the bulk of the market IMHO.
The emphasis on lightness too has added to this, so a smaller size offering is a nice way of saying to a bigger rider, you can get up hills easier- not . "lose that gut and the excess 15kgs you have".
I see many riders on the road on "little"bikes, that look very uncomfortable ( and probably are)...
discussion...anyone...anyone
it takes guts to admit your new purchase you have always dreamed about doesnt cut the mustard...so let us know...is there a case here?
Feedback for the manufacturers, are you one of these souls who has second thoughts about your new purchase?...