Isocyanates and asthma

[Jodi]

I heard that the chemical based isocyanate products can cause acute
asthma attacks, respritory failure and death, is this true? and there
is no nationwide system for spray on facility inspections? how are they
keeping employees safe? I work in the office and I can still be
exposed!!!!

 

[Werehatrack]

Relates to r.b.t in what manner?

A one-shot post well off-topic; smells like a troll to me.

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[JeffWills]

Werehatrack wrote:
> Relates to r.b.t in what manner?
>
> A one-shot post well off-topic; smells like a troll to me.
>

I agree. Besides, Googling turned up 15,000 links, among them:
http://www.scif.com/news-info/lc-bulletins/Polyurethanes_Isocyanates_ Asthma.htm


Jeff

 

[CEarly]

"Jodi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I heard that the chemical based isocyanate products can cause acute
> asthma attacks, respritory failure and death, is this true? and there
> is no nationwide system for spray on facility inspections? how are they
> keeping employees safe? I work in the office and I can still be
> exposed!!!!
>

Don't panic, ma'am. I'm sure "they" only use all-natural, non-chemical
isocyanate products gently squeezed from organically grown isocyanate
shrubs, lovingly nurtured with nothing more than pure morning dew and
caressed daily by fresh mountain breezes.

Even so, you should be wearing a positive pressure respirator to ensure your
safety; 24 hours a day, 365 days a year. One can't be too careful.

 

[Weisse Luft]

Yes, isocynates can cause lung problems but these compounds are highly reactive and as such, have a very short half life in the environment. Most urethanes no longer use high vapor pressure isocynates and rely on pre-reacted isocynates which have much lower vaporization rates. Most urethanes are free of toluene diisocyanate, the leading cluprit in industrial induced asthma.

 

[Jodi]

Thanks for the humorous advice. I am a bit paniced because I read a
case where a man dropped dead from this chemical, is this not a reason
to panic if I am being exposed to the same chemical???

 

[Jodi]

I searched on google Isocyanates and this chat room came up, just
thought you may know something.

 

[Werehatrack]

On 29 Mar 2005 08:57:08 -0800, "Jodi" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Thanks for the humorous advice. I am a bit paniced because I read a
>case where a man dropped dead from this chemical, is this not a reason
>to panic if I am being exposed to the same chemical???

No.


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[David Damerell]

Quoting Jodi <[email protected]>:
>I searched on google Isocyanates and this chat room came up, just
>thought you may know something.

Are you also junking up every other newsgroup (not "chat room") where
anyone has mentioned isocyanates ever?

The word "bicycles" might serve as a bit of a hint.
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Today is First Oneiros, April.

 

[Jay Beattie]

"Jodi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Thanks for the humorous advice. I am a bit paniced because I
read a
> case where a man dropped dead from this chemical, is this not a
reason
> to panic if I am being exposed to the same chemical???

Exposure to isocyanates in the work place is governed by OSHA.
http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/isocyanates/standards.html The case you
are talking about probably involved a painter using an epoxy
paint with isocyanates. Many of those paints are gone or
reformulated, like IMRON. Or these paints are being applied with
HVLP which puts less paint in the air -- and they are using moon
suits. Moreover, there are no free isocyanates once the paint
dries. It is a non-issue. -- Jay Beattie.

 

[Bad Idea]

Jodi wrote:
> ... I read a case where a man dropped
> dead from this chemical...


I once read that the moon is made of green cheese, but...

 

[Jodi]

Yeah, I noticed that "bicycles" is the topic of the website but if you
take the time to do a google search on isocyanates this "newsgroup"
comes up. Why all the anger???


David Damerell wrote:
> Quoting Jodi <[email protected]>:
> >I searched on google Isocyanates and this chat room came up, just
> >thought you may know something.
>
> Are you also junking up every other newsgroup (not "chat room") where
> anyone has mentioned isocyanates ever?
>
> The word "bicycles" might serve as a bit of a hint.
> --
> David Damerell <[email protected]> Distortion Field!
> Today is First Oneiros, April.

 

[Jim Smith]

"Jodi" <[email protected]> writes:

> Yeah, I noticed that "bicycles" is the topic of the website but if you
> take the time to do a google search on isocyanates this "newsgroup"
> comes up. Why all the anger???

Heh. "topic of this website" oh my.

Put on your respirator and back away from the computer.

 

[Weisse Luft]

Isocyanates are found in polyurethane paints, not epoxies. They haven't been removed, only larger chain isocyanates have replaced the famous toluene diisocyanate. TDI has an appreciable vapor pressure, leading to the problems. Single component polyurethanes like poly spar varnish and foaming urethane glues are immune from the isocyanate vapor problems.

 

[Ed]

In article <[email protected]>, Jodi says...
>
>Thanks for the humorous advice. I am a bit paniced because I read a
>case where a man dropped dead from this chemical, is this not a reason
>to panic if I am being exposed to the same chemical???
>
I know of several people who have dropped dead within hours of drinking water.
You don't often read about this but it is true.

 

[Dennis P. Harris]

On 29 Mar 2005 14:02:01 -0800 in rec.bicycles.tech, "Jodi"
<[email protected]> wrote:

> Yeah, I noticed that "bicycles" is the topic of the website but if you
> take the time to do a google search on isocyanates this "newsgroup"
> comes up. Why all the anger???
>
>
it's not a web site. it's a news group devoted to bicycles.
chemicals are off topic *except* when discussed in the context of
cycling technology. now just go away and take your oxygen bottle
with you.

 

[S o r n i]

Weisse Luft wrote:
> Isocyanates are found in polyurethane paints, not epoxies. They
> haven't been removed, only larger chain isocyanates have replaced the
> famous toluene diisocyanate. TDI has an appreciable vapor pressure,
> leading to the problems. Single component polyurethanes like poly
> spar varnish and foaming urethane glues are immune from the
> isocyanate vapor problems.

How many /possible/ bike-related references in the above paragraph?

(Hint: quite a few, with stretches.)

Bill "and there's ANOTHER one" S.

 

[Werehatrack]

On 29 Mar 2005 17:45:58 -0800, Ed <[email protected]> may have
said:

>In article <[email protected]>, Jodi says...
>>
>>Thanks for the humorous advice. I am a bit paniced because I read a
>>case where a man dropped dead from this chemical, is this not a reason
>>to panic if I am being exposed to the same chemical???
>>
>I know of several people who have dropped dead within hours of drinking water.
>You don't often read about this but it is true.

www.dhmo.org

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[Werehatrack]

On 29 Mar 2005 17:45:58 -0800, Ed <[email protected]> may have
said:

>In article <[email protected]>, Jodi says...
>>
>>Thanks for the humorous advice. I am a bit paniced because I read a
>>case where a man dropped dead from this chemical, is this not a reason
>>to panic if I am being exposed to the same chemical???
>>
>I know of several people who have dropped dead within hours of drinking water.
>You don't often read about this but it is true.

www.dhmo.org

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[RonSonic]

On 29 Mar 2005 17:45:58 -0800, Ed <[email protected]> wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>, Jodi says...
>>
>>Thanks for the humorous advice. I am a bit paniced because I read a
>>case where a man dropped dead from this chemical, is this not a reason
>>to panic if I am being exposed to the same chemical???
>>
>I know of several people who have dropped dead within hours of drinking water.
>You don't often read about this but it is true.

The media have been covering up for the Dihydrogen Monoxide producers and don't
report these stories.

http://www.circus.com/~nodhmo/

Do what you can to prevent further DHMO related damage to our environment.

Ron