Issues with folding bicycles on European trains?

Discussion in 'Cycling Equipment' started by Tom Worthington, Jun 25, 2004.

  1. Gawnsoft

    Gawnsoft Guest

    On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 10:40:26 -0400, "James Silverton"
    <[email protected]> wrote (more or less):

    >
    >"Peter File" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >news:[email protected]
    >> > The name "tube" appeared early in the 20th century when the deep

    >level
    >> > lines first opened with their small diameter tunnels. It is now

    >often
    >> > used (incorrectly) by the general public to mean any Underground

    >line.
    >> > "I'll take the Tube" is an expression commonly heard in London.

    >The
    >> > sub surface lines are the Circle, District, East London,

    >Hammersmith &
    >> > City and Metropolitan Lines. Only the others, the Bakerloo,

    >Central,
    >> > Jubilee, Northern, Piccadilly, Victoria and Waterloo & City Lines

    >are
    >> > true tube lines.

    >>
    >> Right I'll remember that on my next trip from Harrow on the Hill to
    >> Waterloo.
    >> 'Im taking the surface/cut'n'cover to Baker St and then the tube to
    >> Waterloo'
    >>
    >>

    >
    >This brings back memories! On my first visit to London, as a boy of 11
    >more years ago than I am going to admit, I asked a very proper City
    >type with umbrella and Derby (Bowler?) where was the nearest Tube
    >Station. He assumed a puzzled expression in then said in a superior
    >fashion, "Oh, you mean the Underground Station!"


    Weird. This sounds much more like the supercilious response one would
    expect if you asked for the whereabouts of the nearest /subway/
    station.


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  2. David Martin

    David Martin Guest

    On 2/7/04 3:05 pm, in article [email protected],
    "Andrew Chadwick" <[email protected]> wrote:

    > I think you are. Elephant and Castle, and Monument are still in play,
    > with three tokens still on East Cheam.


    Are we playing with the fully expanded set, in which case you would leave
    yourself open for a passing move through Wood Lane and Bull & Bush.
    Obviously if you are playing the 94-99 restricted variant then Canada Water
    and Aldwych would be off limits as well.

    ...d
     
  3. At 6/25/2004 09:06 PM, I wrote:
    Was going to take the folding bicycle to the UK on Tuesday by aircraft
    then Cambridge, Brussels, Berlin and Hamburg by train. Any issues or
    suggestions? ...

    Thanks for all the suggestions.

    If I put the bicycle in a carry bag I assume it can be taken as normal
    luggage ...

    Bicycle bags worked fine on Qantas aircraft and on UK, Eurostar,
    Brussels and German trains.

    The intention is not to go on long cycling tours, just short day trips
    around the city centre, with luggage left at a hotel. ...

    The bicycles worked well in Cambridge and Berlin. This is an excellent
    way to see cities.

    .... problem of transporting the bicycle and luggage to and from planes
    and trains. Putting the bicycle bag on top of a small wheeled cabin
    bag (with
    luggage in it) when walking ...

    Only an issue on the London underground, with lots of stairs.

    .... strapping the bag to the top of the bicycle carrier and riding the
    bicycle seems to be workable. Because the bike has small wheels the
    load is low down, about the level panniers would be on a conventional
    bicycle....

    Didn't work as it made the bicycle topple over backwards.

    .... Towing the wheeled bag behind the bike carrier (with the bag
    handle extended as a tow bar), seems to work. But the bag wheels are
    too small and noisy for road use. ...

    Worked well. The wheels were noisy, but it even worked on
    cobblestones.

    .... I realize that specially designed hard cases are available to put
    bicycles in ...

    At a display of bag making at the Berlin Technical Museium there was a
    semi-rigid wheeled bag with larger rubber wheels (about 70mm), which
    looked ideal. These are waterproof like a hard case, but flexible and
    light like a cloth bag. There were on sale branded "Sintesis" in a
    German department store for about 169 Euro.

    ps: Currently on a German high speed "ICE" train between Berlin and
    Hamburg. Will do a web report with photos in a few days.


    Tom Worthington FACS [email protected]
    Director, Tomw Communications Pty Ltd ABN: 17 088 714 309
    http://www.tomw.net.au PO Box 13, Belconnen ACT 2617
     
  4. Hi,

    I've taken 2 different brompton folders to: the netherlands, belgium,
    germany, france, jamaica, and around the US. on planes or trains I just
    fold it, put it in it's bag and either check it on planes or just put it
    in the luggage rack (or next to) at the end of the car with my luggage.

    ttyl

    akia

    Tom Worthington wrote:

    > At 6/25/2004 09:06 PM, I wrote:
    > Was going to take the folding bicycle to the UK on Tuesday by aircraft
    > then Cambridge, Brussels, Berlin and Hamburg by train. Any issues or
    > suggestions? ...
    >
    > Thanks for all the suggestions.
    >
    > If I put the bicycle in a carry bag I assume it can be taken as normal
    > luggage ...
    >
    > Bicycle bags worked fine on Qantas aircraft and on UK, Eurostar,
    > Brussels and German trains.
    >
    > The intention is not to go on long cycling tours, just short day trips
    > around the city centre, with luggage left at a hotel. ...
    >
    > The bicycles worked well in Cambridge and Berlin. This is an excellent
    > way to see cities.
    >
    > ... problem of transporting the bicycle and luggage to and from planes
    > and trains. Putting the bicycle bag on top of a small wheeled cabin
    > bag (with
    > luggage in it) when walking ...
    >
    > Only an issue on the London underground, with lots of stairs.
    >
    > ... strapping the bag to the top of the bicycle carrier and riding the
    > bicycle seems to be workable. Because the bike has small wheels the
    > load is low down, about the level panniers would be on a conventional
    > bicycle....
    >
    > Didn't work as it made the bicycle topple over backwards.
    >
    > ... Towing the wheeled bag behind the bike carrier (with the bag
    > handle extended as a tow bar), seems to work. But the bag wheels are
    > too small and noisy for road use. ...
    >
    > Worked well. The wheels were noisy, but it even worked on
    > cobblestones.
    >
    > ... I realize that specially designed hard cases are available to put
    > bicycles in ...
    >
    > At a display of bag making at the Berlin Technical Museium there was a
    > semi-rigid wheeled bag with larger rubber wheels (about 70mm), which
    > looked ideal. These are waterproof like a hard case, but flexible and
    > light like a cloth bag. There were on sale branded "Sintesis" in a
    > German department store for about 169 Euro.
    >
    > ps: Currently on a German high speed "ICE" train between Berlin and
    > Hamburg. Will do a web report with photos in a few days.
    >
    >
    > Tom Worthington FACS [email protected]
    > Director, Tomw Communications Pty Ltd ABN: 17 088 714 309
    > http://www.tomw.net.au PO Box 13, Belconnen ACT 2617
     
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