I'd say go for it.Originally Posted by Bigpikle .
What is people's view of 'endurance blocks' of 7-10 days? Im thinking of the sort of thing described in TCCTP where you have a free week or so and go out and max out your training time.
My CTL is hovering around 55 and I've been getting loads of L3/4 done but have 10 free days coming up and am thinking I could get 15 hours or so of L2/3 done, assuming the weather allows me outdoors. I'll have a forced 5 day rest afterwards due to a work trip, so recovery is not an issue.
I'm thinking it would be a little like a training camp and give my CTL a good bump as well. Is there really any benefit from this though and is ti worth investing the extra time/volume or should I just carry on with the usual shorter sessions and not invest the extra time?
I have a similar opportunity at Xmas as I'll probably have 3 week vacation in a block so have loads of time available.
Just as a reminder, my target events are long rides - 200km rides in Flanders and then up in the Pyrenees in June next year. I know it's early but part of me thinks any opportunity I get longer rides in is probably a good idea (specificity).
Right there is where I need to shoot for a goal as a 150 TSS maximum per ride if I get to do consecutive days during the holidays.Originally Posted by Bigpikle .
cheers all - seems to make sense then.
Looking at my calendar I think I could make this potentially a 10 day block - Fri to the following Sunday - with a rest day somewhere in there I'm sure. Hopefully I'd be able to log plenty of 150 TSS rides in that period. I shouldnt have an issue with position as I'm well adapted to the bike I'll be riding and have been logging a few good rides on her recently on good days outside.
Therein lies the 'magic' of focusing on FTP instead of focusing on the actual short hard efforts that eventually force riders over the limit. Sure if everyone's FTP is the same then race situations often come down to those short anaerobic and neuromuscular bursts. But everyone's FTP is not the same and being able to ride at Tempo while the folks around you are pushing up to and over Threshold pacing makes a huge difference. Often those make or break anaerobic moments come down to who's freshest at the moments they happen, not who has the highest anaerobic power for those short durations when they're completely rested.Originally Posted by Bigpikle ..... I'm sure a big part of it is the increasing FTP making the bulk of the ride relatively easier and the short & steeper hills pushing me relatively less into the red each time....
Yeah you're probably right, but I'm amazed how often I hear folks dismissing FTP building as only being useful for TTs or steady hill climbs or other situations that are ridden right around Threshold. Your experience is really typical in that higher FTP translates to more freshness and quicker recovery between high end efforts well above FTP and usually that freshness and rapid recovery is more important than higher one off power for those short efforts yet a lot of folks still think of increased FTP as only helping in sustained near Threshold situations.Originally Posted by Bigpikle .
Preaching to the converted in this thread I reckon Dave!....
Cheers tested at 240w, so did 2x20 @ 220 which went fine. Was hard concentrating for that long. Fortunately I was able to set a power on the trainer. It was interesting that higher cadence made life a lot easier for the time period although it seemed to load my cardio a lot. You don't seem to notice so much on the road, supposedly due to the other distractions. I'm a big guy (6'5 and 90kg) so those figures aren't anything to speak of as yet!Felt_Rider said:BP, great job today and I gave you kudos on Strava. Nice work looking at your data. MattHB, join in the mix and see the results start to happen. This thread has been pretty awesome for a lot of folk.
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