Ivan Dominguez: "I was so happy after I had won those races."
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Ivan Dominguez: "I was so happy after I had won those races."
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If you haven't seen this guy race, anyone, go check him out. He trains here in Miami and he is a man among boys here and on the NRC.cyclingheroes said:
When he first got to South Florida in the 90s -- he defected from the Cuban national team -- he worked as a landscaper for minimum wage for two years before stepping back on the bike. That year on second-hand equipment he won two stages at Super Week. Now he commands six figures.
I can't believe that I get to say this...but I have seen him race...helmutRoole2 said:
He ruled at the ToM, and he seemed like the nicest guy when they interviewed him. Didn't know he defected from Cuba. Awesome. (Didn't he know about their great medical system... )
There's good money in North America for probably 10 guys. The rest are under $50k, the vast vast majority getting nothing or a $1,000/month.
I'd guess there's ten guys making six figures. I have nothing to base that on, just a hunch. Dominguez was friends with Heado (sp?) and that likely made him leery of racing in Europe. At some point Toyota might take out a license to race PT events. Then we'd have some idea of what his abilities are against that sort of talent. But I don't think he'll ever race over there full time. Considering where he came from, I think he's hedging his bets.
Here in the states, he's 100 percent reliable, proven and he'll get paid top dollar well into his 30s.
This guy, if you see him on a bike, you won't believe eyes. His pedal action is stunning and, if it came down to a fight, he looks like he could kick some ass. He's one of those guys who you can see the muscles over his temples. Genetically, everything came together for him.
I'd guess there's ten guys making six figures. I have nothing to base that on, just a hunch. Dominguez was friends with Heado (sp?) and that likely made him leery of racing in Europe. At some point Toyota might take out a license to race PT events. Then we'd have some idea of what his abilities are against that sort of talent. But I don't think he'll ever race over there full time. Considering where he came from, I think he's hedging his bets.
Here in the states, he's 100 percent reliable, proven and he'll get paid top dollar well into his 30s.
This guy, if you see him on a bike, you won't believe eyes. His pedal action is stunning and, if it came down to a fight, he looks like he could kick some ass. He's one of those guys who you can see the muscles over his temples. Genetically, everything came together for him.
He's a pretty nice, outgoing dude. I've actually been in a few breaks with him on training rides. He always dials it down to keep as many people on board as possible. If it looks like we might get caught he takes longer pulls, negative splits -- harder near the end when everyone's recovered.nns1400 said:I can't believe that I get to say this...but I have seen him race...
As a sidebar, he also pulls mad hoes like a porno star.
Another Cuban defector set to make a name for himself is Frank Travieso.
Half the people in Miami are from Cuba or someplace other than Miami.
Dominguez scores one win at Cali, he has paid for his salary, and his teammates salary who worked in helping him achieve that win.helmutRoole2 said:
The rest is cream for Toyota.
So who are on the money?
Rodriguez
Botero
Sevilla
Pena
Oneil
Dominguez
Vogels
Wherry
Clarke
Maynes
Sutherland
lots of guys in Europe would ride for 100 grand in the US. Robbie Hunter was gonna ride before Barloworld contracted him last year. He would have been the most dominant rider I think in the country. The only race outside his purview, Georgia, he could hang at Cali and tt with Levi. Won a few 10-20 km tts.
Graeme Brown would win a bit in the crits. So would Kemps and Allan Davis. I wonder how much money Henderson gets at High Road, I think he would have had to take close to a 50% cut.
It would be interesting to know their salaries. The thing about Europe is the opportunity. If you win one big race or a stage in the Tour, the endorsement checks would likely dwarf your salary.
I dont think many get endorsment cheques unless they are national riders.helmutRoole2 said:
Voeckler, Boonen etc.
Mcewen has a shoe deal with Sidi, might get 10 grand from Oakley, Evans might get 20 grand from Northwave. But their money is in salary.
A guy like Aaron Kemps, who would be stronger and just as dast as any sprinter in the US, is most likely on 30 thousand Euro. The minimum for a rider who is not a neo-pro.
He would win a dozen times in America easily. He won 3 or 4 stages of the Herald Sun Tour.
Did not McCartney win a Vuelta stage? I doubt he is on more than 60 thousand Euro at CSC. I reckon he could get that back in America. And more prizemoney. I doubt he will get to ride the Tour on that packed CSC squad, but you never know with Riis. On the flat they already have Ogrady, Cancellara, and Voigt. They have very solid reserves in Sorensen, Breschel and others.
Are you his pr guy?helmutRoole2 said:
But yes your right, he is a nice guy. He probebly could keep up with soem of the European fast guys of the Pro-Continental circuit in Europe (Radochla, Dekkers, Van Dijk..)
might be underselling him heroes.cyclingheroes said:Are you his pr guy?
But yes your right, he is a nice guy. He probebly could keep up with soem of the European fast guys of the Pro-Continental circuit in Europe (Radochla, Dekkers, Van Dijk..)
he was about on par with Haedo.
There was some speculation about domestic riders' salaries on a Canadian forum last year after the apparent news that Svein Tuft had signed a new contract with Symmetrics - I'm guessing the most accurate comment was someone who said they knew a top rider on Navigators who was making $60,000 US a year. Otherwise the figures were wildly varying and likely speculative (ie. someone guessing that Tuft would make $120,000 Cdn a year and someone else saying more likely $120,000 per 3-4 year contract).
Dominguez is a big fish in the US, and Toyota has guys on the team to help him win (Vogels, Wherry and now Rollin). He probably wouldn't be as big a fish in Europe, so why mess with a good thing....
especially with the hoes bonus.
especially with the hoes bonus.
