Jan Ulrich handlebar position

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  1. Ullefan

    Ullefan New Member

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    Great stuff. :) :(

    It looked like he was running over cobbles thats probably why.
     


  2. zlatan

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    yes it cobbels and i also think thats why he did it
     
  3. huboon

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    Yes, at 2:08 he leaves the cobbles and immediately moves back to the hoods!
     
  4. sopas

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    Oh, but that was riding on the flat, most likely at the start of a stage before the race, and not climbing a mountain.
     
  5. sopas

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    THanks for posting the video. Nice to see that.

    At moments, it didn't look like Ullrich!
     
  6. Grater

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    I'm a bit heavier than you guys.

    But I'm 6'0 and 80kg and climb using the breaks. I find it easier and find I am pulling myself up the hill with my arms - I'm very strong and solid in the upper body - have a body skeleton frame suited for Rugby or Rowing or a powerful sport like that - that's probably why I do it. I seem to use my upper body strengh and pull myself up the hill and it works fine for me. So maybe it's a thing with guys with big frames?
     
  7. Bikeridindude

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    And he doesn't look the least bit comfortable doing it.
     
  8. rob of the og

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    With your hands on the hoods your chest is more open so you can breathe slightly more easily. You can also change gears or take the visages smoothly without moving your hands. The only advantage to changing to the tops is if you need a change for comfort.
     
  9. limerickman

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    Indurain passed me at the TDF at Alpe D'Huex and Guize Neige 1995 TDF: pedalling uphill on both climbs, chasing after Pantani, using the drops!
    I could not believe my eyes when he blasted by me.
    (using the drops).
     
  10. sopas

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    You mean, like Pantani used to do?
    Yes, I have seen Indurain using the lower handlebar too a few time, but only when he was out of the saddle. When he was on the saddle his favorite position was the upper bar.

    THis is a photo of Alpe D/Huex in 1995. Indurain using the drops in pure Pantani style, while Zulle and Riis have his hands on the brakes.

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    However his favourite position was the top handelbar.

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    Now look at this video of Indurain attacking in La Plagne during the 1995 Tour. His hands on the upper handlebar most of the time. Rominger using the hoods more.

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=IhEKRjhLuds
     
  11. sopas

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    By the way I also use the upper handlebar more than the brakes. A while ago I tested myself. Near my home there is a hard 1-mile hill, so I went there and climbed it with my hands on the hoods. Then I rested for a few minutes, and climbed it again but this time my hands on the upper handlebar. I felt my better. I did not take times but I think I went faster too the second time.
     
  12. Lonnie Utah

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    I'd say different strokes for different folks.
    You like using the bar? Cool.
    I like using the hoods, and I'm 5'7" and 143lbs.
    Using the hoods opens ones chest up and allows one to breathe more deeply.

    But as far as Ulrich goes, he's retired now so who cares?
     
  13. ad9898

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    I remember this climb well, that video is just brutal, Indurain's style and form on the bike here is perfection, he never attacked, he just kept piling on the power until everyone was grovelling and then rode them off his wheel, for a guy of that size to ride like that in the mountains is unbelievable.

    His physical capabilities are unlikely to be seen again for some time, the irony is that Ullrich's capabilities were similar but he just didn't have the discipline in the off season to take advantage of them....real shame.... the only glimpse we really saw was Arcalis, in the 97 tour.
     
  14. jojoma

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    I agree. Climbing seems individual. I've tried Pantani style of climbing and it's very uncomfortable. I don't know how anyone can breathe while out of the saddle, in the drops, on a steep grade.
     
  15. Bro Deal

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    Ullrich had to deal with the 50% hematocrit rule. Indurain didn't; he decided to retire when it was clear it would come into effect during the '97 season.
     
  16. fscyclist

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    +1. I miss watching someone of the class of Indurain. There's no one on the horizon even close.
     
  17. limerickman

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    Yeah Sopas : those photos are exactly how Indurain pedalled at 1995 TDF. Uphill!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    While chasing Pantani!

    Funny enough, Ullrich in the 1996 and 1997 TDF used the same technique/position as Indurain has in the 1995 photo.
     
  18. limerickman

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    Agreed.

    BigMig was poetry in motion.
     
  19. sopas

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    You mean, Ullrich used the drops uphill??? I don't think i have seen him doing that many times. He was almost always in the saddle with hands on hoods. Anyway too bad Ullrich was never the same after 1997. I am convinced he could have at least won another TdF had he been in the shape of 1997.

    By the way, this is somehow off topic but, how much did the bikes weight back in 1995? and how much did they weight in 2005? I guess there would be a difference of about 1-2 kilograms (3-4lbs).
     
  20. zlatan

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    jan used the drops somtimes espacily when he´s attack in the mountains
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l39ahBFGnuk
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhru9Ia2Ny4&feature=related
     
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