Jan Ulrich handlebar position

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  1. jhuskey

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    Just take Armstrong out of the equation and the results change dramatically.
     


  2. sopas

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    Certainly!!! Without Armstrong, Ullrich would have won what?? 5, 6 TdF??
     
  4. limerickman

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    Ullrich in 1997 TDF on the drops surrounded by climbers Virenque and Herve

    http://images.google.ie/imgres?imgu...r+de+france&start=220&ndsp=20&um=1&hl=en&sa=N

    and at Arcalis

    http://images.google.ie/imgres?imgu...r+de+france&start=120&ndsp=20&um=1&hl=en&sa=N

    Although I do agree that Ullrich mostly used the top bars for climbing - as in this picture with Virenque and Pantani

    http://images.google.ie/imgres?imgu...r+de+france&start=120&ndsp=20&um=1&hl=en&sa=N
     
  5. jhuskey

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    Is hard to say for sure how long he would have raced if he had won a couple more and we will never know, possibly 7.
    He was very confident that could have won in 2006 ,before exclusion due to Puerto.
    I sent an e-mail to Jan, no response as yet and one to my friend who is Jan's neighbor. He tells me he is back in Switzerland but has not seen Jan as yet but will ask him about his preference of styles when he sees him next.
     
  6. limerickman

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    Can you ask JU how he would be fixed for riding a 500km Pyrennean stage on seatless fixed gear unicycles, with no brakes, wearing rubber waders...................................
     
  7. jhuskey

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    I will need to get Thomas to translate. From my limited experience speaking with him I have established that Jan does not always grasp the more illusive humor when presented in English .
     
  8. sopas

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    THank you very much.
    I think it is great to have someone here with contacts with Ullrich!!!! :) :)

    By the way, Do you know if Jan still rides for fun or if he practices other sports?? We all know Armstrong is participating in Marathons, plays tennis, etc. What about Jan?
    After retirement, Indurain used to ride a bit, however, the last I know of him is that his knees are very delicate. He can not run on foot due to pain. Those are the consequences of many years of profesional cycling (Indurain used 180mm crank arm lenght!!!!)
     
  9. jhuskey

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    He does not train like he did but has been in Spain riding as of late and is doing a charity ride in Germany, I believe in October. He has been to the States several times to MTB out west and rides his MTB a lot in the Alps. He skis a bit also , I hear.
    He has been busy with his new son the past year (Max) who will be 1 year old any day now.
    I can't remember the exact day of his birth without looking up some old e-mails, but I am almost sure it was early to mid August.
    The X-bionic sportswear deal has fallen apart, at least for he time being.
     
  10. whiteboytrash

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    Where's the cash coming from to support such a lifestyle ?
     
  11. jhuskey

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    Well , I am not privy to his bank records but understand he has enough money to keep him going for a long time and he is getting offers.
    He aslo talks about releasing his book but will have to write it first.
    I doubt that it will be a best seller in 10 years so he better get busy.
     
  12. Crankyfeet

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    I think jimmypop hit on a fair point. We watched Indurain's sheer power and smoothness with naive admiration in an age of innocence. Now... if the same Indurain came along... we'd be shouting "DOPER!!!!" from the hilltops. Doping has detroyed our faith in those that excel and stand apart. Notwithstanding that in hindsight... Indurain was a doper.... It wasn't on our minds at the time.
     
  13. kennf

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    Wasn't his salary around $3 million a year when he was riding?
     
  14. fscyclist

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    You're absolutely wrong. Dope doesn't create the class that Indurain had. I think Indurain doped and would be shocked if he didn't, but that doesn't change my opinion of his class. I still think they all dope and no one is close. Even after Indurain's retirement, the only rider I can think of with class near Indurain was Ullrich, but as noted previously, his off season antics didn't help him.
     
  15. zlatan

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    well of the bike jan´s "handlebar postion" is (-;:D:D

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  16. Crankyfeet

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    You missed my point. It was about our cynicism now when we view extraordinary performance vs. our innocence/ignorance as spectators then. It wasn't about Indurain's class.
     
  17. Jan the man

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    I thought his salary was higher. 3/4 million Euros, more like $5/6 million. If you add addidas sponsorship, then he probably has enough money to live comfortably.
     
  18. whiteboytrash

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    Not to mention that dreadful photospread in Bild. That would have brought in some cash.



    No one wears a linen suit like Jan Ullrich. Well no one wears linen suits.
     
  19. Ullefan

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    This must have earned him a few..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4D3LzSmC28

    he ends up driving a 2-ton truck..legend

    I wonder if this came out before or after the nike-lance commercial?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjcZNR6MiRE
     
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