Jeanson...oops

[Jeff Jones]

No sanction, but this is still not good:

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/?id=2003/oct03/oct11news3

Jeff

 

[Chris Version 2]

"Jeff Jones" <jeff@cyclingnews-punt-com> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> No sanction, but this is still not good:
>
> http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/?id=2003/oct03/oct11news3
>
> Jeff
>
>
>

does this mean that she will be indicted in Italy for fraud also?

 

[Kurgan Gringion]

"Jeff Jones" <jeff@cyclingnews-punt-com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> No sanction, but this is still not good:
>
> http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/?id=2003/oct03/oct11news3

Ms. Jeanson rarely races against the very best world class competition.

For years the whispering amongst her competitors is there is a reason why: disparity in doping
controls at the biggest UCI races vs. most of the N. American circuit.

Pure speculation of course, since no one has first-hand knowledge, but this will definitely serve to
'enhance' the chatter.

 

[Matabala]

oops oops oops oops oops oops oops oops oops...

"Jeff Jones" <jeff@cyclingnews-punt-com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> No sanction, but this is still not good:
>
> http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/?id=2003/oct03/oct11news3
>
> Jeff

 

[S. Anderson]

"Chris version 2" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> does this mean that she will be indicted in Italy for fraud also?

Heehee..good one. ;-)

Cheers,

Scott..

 

[Racer X]

If Jeanson's so-called high hematocrit limit indicates anything, it sure seems funny why this same
chatter wouldn't be occurring about Jonathan Vaughters, who also is over the 50% limit for men.

And if it is indicative of doping, then she must be on dope throughout the year since she wins
throughout the year. And she must be on the dope for the past 3 years as well. Yet she never tested
positive once? Surely if she were doping at a level and frequency that was so performancing
enhancing as to have her dominate races, it would be extremely unlikely she never failed a dope
test once.

Just exactly what dope would she be on that has such a marked effect, yet doesn't result in a
positive test?

If anything, all this means is Jeanson's people should have sought a waiver for a high hematocrit
like Vaughters did. Outside of that, it means nothing else.

It's a good thing there's no such chatter about riders such as Amber Neben.

Racer X

Kurgan Gringioni wrote:

> "Jeff Jones" <jeff@cyclingnews-punt-com> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > No sanction, but this is still not good:
> >
> > http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/?id=2003/oct03/oct11news3
>
> Ms. Jeanson rarely races against the very best world class competition.
>
> For years the whispering amongst her competitors is there is a reason why: disparity in doping
> controls at the biggest UCI races vs. most of the N. American circuit.
>
> Pure speculation of course, since no one has first-hand knowledge, but this will definitely serve
> to 'enhance' the chatter.

 

[John Forrest To]

On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 17:40:44 GMT, RACER X <[email protected]> wrote:

>Surely if she were doping at a level and frequency that was so performancing enhancing as to have
>her dominate races, it would be extremely unlikely she never failed a dope test once.

Right, I mean those Festina guys were doping and got caught in tests right?

JT
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[Andy Coggan]

"RACER X" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> If Jeanson's so-called high hematocrit limit indicates anything, it sure
seems
> funny why this same chatter wouldn't be occurring about Jonathan
Vaughters,
> who also is over the 50% limit for men.

Because Vaughters has a waiver?

> And if it is indicative of doping, then she must be on dope throughout the year since she wins
> throughout the year. And she must be on the dope for
the
> past 3 years as well. Yet she never tested positive once? Surely if she
were
> doping at a level and frequency that was so performancing enhancing as to
have
> her dominate races, it would be extremely unlikely she never failed a dope test once.

How many times has she been tested?

> Just exactly what dope would she be on that has such a marked effect, yet doesn't result in a
> positive test?
>
> If anything, all this means is Jeanson's people should have sought a
waiver
> for a high hematocrit like Vaughters did. Outside of that, it means
nothing
> else.
>
> It's a good thing there's no such chatter about riders such as Amber
Neben.

You want chatter? Okay, how about this: why did Neben only get a 6 month suspension (plus 18 months
probation), while Moninger got a full year?

Andy Coggan

 

[Kurgan Gringion]

"RACER X" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> If Jeanson's so-called high hematocrit limit indicates anything, it sure
seems
> funny why this same chatter wouldn't be occurring about Jonathan Vaughters, who also is over the
> 50% limit for men.
>
> And if it is indicative of doping, then she must be on dope throughout the year since she wins
> throughout the year. And she must be on the dope for
the
> past 3 years as well. Yet she never tested positive once? Surely if she
were
> doping at a level and frequency that was so performancing enhancing as to
have
> her dominate races, it would be extremely unlikely she never failed a dope test once.

Moron -

Goddamm, you are stupid. Go reread my post.

Then consider that they don't do hematocrit tests at North American races (or any doping control at
all at most of them).

Capiche?

 

[B. Lafferty]

Reuters reports that the betrothal of the Prince and Princess of Hematocrit will be formally
announce this evening. The blissful couple had hoped to make the announcement in Italy after a
successful world title bid by Jeanson, but Vampires descended on the young cycling star forcing her
out of competition for two weeks.

Pantani reacted to the news with outrage accusing the Vampires of attacking him via his true love.
Pantani defended the honor or his beloved noting that their is a bond of blood that is far thicker
than water.

More later.........

"Jeff Jones" <jeff@cyclingnews-punt-com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> No sanction, but this is still not good:
>
> http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/?id=2003/oct03/oct11news3
>
> Jeff

 

[Steven Woo]

On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 02:02:24 +1000, "Jeff Jones" <jeff@cyclingnews-punt-com> wrote:

>No sanction, but this is still not good:
>
>http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/?id=2003/oct03/oct11news3
>
>Jeff
>

Too early to say no sanction. They have to do the 2nd round of blood doping drugs tests now IIRC.

 

[Davey Crockett]

"S. Anderson" <[email protected]> writes:

> "Chris version 2" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> does this mean that she will be indicted in Italy for fraud also?
>
> Heehee..good one. ;-)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Scott..
>
>

Anybody wanna bet they say it was in her make-up?

I seem to remember that's what Jeannie found when she got caught way back

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Davey Crockett

 

[Suz]

"Jeff Jones" <jeff@cyclingnews-punt-com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> No sanction, but this is still not good:
>
> http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/?id=2003/oct03/oct11news3
>
> Jeff
>
Does anyone know what the "accepted limit" is for women? I'm assuming it's lower than it is for men.

Suz

 

[Davey Crockett]

"B. Lafferty" <[email protected]> writes:

> She's already claimed it was because she sleeps in an altitude tent.
>

Drat.............

Anyway, the French language news is gonna be on about an hour from now.

I'll see what they have to say there about Mademoiselle Lachine
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Davey Crockett

 

[Suz]

> >
> Does anyone know what the "accepted limit" is for women? I'm assuming
it's
> lower than it is for men.
>
> Suz
>
Never mind, I found it. It's 47%

Suz

 

[B. Lafferty]

She's already claimed it was because she sleeps in an altitude tent.

"Davey Crockett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:878ynrv5ki.fsf@cpe0050da66e294-cm0f2069983361.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com...
> "S. Anderson" <[email protected]> writes:
>
> > "Chris version 2" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >>
> >> does this mean that she will be indicted in Italy for fraud also?
> >
> > Heehee..good one. ;-)
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Scott..
> >
> >
>
> Anybody wanna bet they say it was in her make-up?
>
> I seem to remember that's what Jeannie found when she got caught way back
>
> --
> le vent a Dos
>
> Davey Crockett

 

[Davey Crockett]

"Suz" <[email protected]> writes:

> "Jeff Jones" <jeff@cyclingnews-punt-com> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> No sanction, but this is still not good:
>>
>> http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/?id=2003/oct03/oct11news3
>>
>> Jeff
>>
> Does anyone know what the "accepted limit" is for women? I'm assuming it's lower than it is
> for men.
>
> Suz
>
>

Normal is 43 for men and women are slightly lower at probably 40 - 41.

The UCI allows 50 for men and 47 for women and I believe for good measure even turns a blind eye to
couple of points above that.

http://www.bloodline.net/stories/storyReader$3144

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Davey Crockett

 

[Jeff Jones]

"B. Lafferty" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> She's already claimed it was because she sleeps in an altitude tent.
>
Here's her press conference:

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/?id=2003/oct03/oct12news

Jeff

 

[Dave]

"Jeff Jones" <jeff@cyclingnews-punt-com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "B. Lafferty" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > She's already claimed it was because she sleeps in an altitude tent.
> >
> Here's her press conference:
>
> http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/?id=2003/oct03/oct12news
>
> Jeff

What a travesty that a woman who has won as many races as she has, has only been tested once in
competition (this time). I agree with the assumption that she juices because she is basically a
North American racer and never really races the "big girls" of the world to avoid detection. I also
thought that tents don't give you that much of a spike. Where is Wallace at? Dave

 

[Dan Connelly]

What spike? If she lives in the thing, her hematocrit is probably on the border all the time.
There's natural fluctutions. Have you ever had yours tested? Mine's been all over the place, from
around 38 to 43.

>
> What a travesty that a woman who has won as many races as she has, has only been tested once in
> competition (this time). I agree with the assumption that she juices because she is basically a
> North American racer and never really races the "big girls" of the world to avoid detection. I
> also thought that tents don't give you that much of a spike. Where is Wallace at? Dave