B triples in my area ( trucks with three trailers ) some of them come realy close at speed ( 70 mph )MarkInNC said:I can't count the number of times that a group of under 20 idiots wait until they are right next to me an then lay on the horn and yell at the top of the voice at me. I almost fell over the first two or three times before I got used to it.
I would love to meet up with a couple of car loads of these locals when they were not in there cars to run away.
Mark In NC
It's possible though that if a car's main selling point is its engine and manoeuvrability, then it might attract buyers who want to exploit that in their driving. And when you buy a bimmer, a lot of dealerships have a short race course out the back where a professional driver takes you for a hair-raising spin to show you your car's capabilities. So its not perhaps a random sample of car owners.alienator said:I'm going to go with none of the above, that there is, in fact, no correlation between the car someone drives or the motorcycle someone rides, and their behavior.
Interpretations, though, of the behavior of drivers in certain car makes or on certain motorcycles are easily biased by an incident or two.
Alienator, stop trying to ruin our fun. As a scientist you know full well that, contrary to popular opinion, you CAN generalize. In fact, done carefully it's the scientific method = induction. Based on your comments, then, you must believe that the occupants of a Lincoln Town Car are just as likely to throw a beer can at a cyclist as are the occupants of a Camaro.alienator said:I'm going to go with none of the above, that there is, in fact, no correlation between the car someone drives or the motorcycle someone rides, and their behavior.
Interpretations, though, of the behavior of drivers in certain car makes or on certain motorcycles are easily biased by an incident or two.
Pendejo said:Alienator, stop trying to ruin our fun. As a scientist you know full well that, contrary to popular opinion, you CAN generalize. In fact, done carefully it's the scientific method = induction. Based on your comments, then, you must believe that the occupants of a Lincoln Town Car are just as likely to throw a beer can at a cyclist as are the occupants of a Camaro.
Sure. It's not like aggressive drivers might choose an aggressive handling car. It's also not like insurance companies, which set their rates on statistics and have money riding on whether they get it right, use the type of car they are insuring when determining rates; that's why they insure sports cars at the same rate as non-sports cars.alienator said:I'm going to go with none of the above, that there is, in fact, no correlation between the car someone drives or the motorcycle someone rides, and their behavior.
Sarcasm as the last defense? So answer the question: Do you think the occupants of a Lincoln Town Car are just as likely to throw a beer can at a cyclist as are the occupants of a Camaro?alienator said:Uh-huh. Right. Please, oh wise one, learn me about science and your keen intuition about people.
Pendejo said:Sarcasm as the last defense? So answer the question: Do you think the occupants of a Lincoln Town Car are just as likely to throw a beer can at a cyclist as are the occupants of a Camaro?
Bro Deal said:Sure. It's not like aggressive drivers might choose an aggressive handling car. It's also not like insurance companies, which set their rates on statistics and have money riding on whether they get it right, use the type of car they are insuring when determining rates; that's why they insure sports cars at the same rate as non-sports cars.
That has got nothing to do with his point.alienator said:Ah, the insurance rates argument. Well, there's a stroke of genius. Let's base an argument on a tactic an industry that only looks at short term profit. Example? Poor coverage of preventative care and virtually non-existent coverage for people with certain pre-existing conditions.
Golly, y'all sure do like your generalizations, but I'll bet you chafe when someone generalizes about you. Sure you'll say you don't, but if that's really the case then you really don't stand for anything.
Crankyfeet said:That has got nothing to do with his point.
What Alienator is experiencing is the logical analog of metal fatigue.Crankyfeet said:That has got nothing to do with his point.
Pendejo said:What Alienator is experiencing is the logical analog of metal fatigue.
Gosh, those insurance companies must be run by idiots. I am sure with your vast experience with vehicle crash statistics, you'll be able to tell the insurance companies how to adjust their rates to make more money. Funny how the guy who high handedly dismisses any anecdotal experience and generalizations by other posters gets his panties in a bind when confronted with decisions made with huge amounts of data he doesn't have access to. All he can do is make a limp dicked argument about "short term profits" and "non-existant coverage for pre-existing conidtions." What lack of health insurance has to do with auto insurance rates I have no clue, but demonizing the inurance companies is always a good way to draw attention away from lack of reasoning.alienator said:Ah, the insurance rates argument. Well, there's a stroke of genius. Let's base an argument on a tactic an industry that only looks at short term profit. Example? Poor coverage of preventative care and virtually non-existent coverage for people with certain pre-existing conditions.
Golly, y'all sure do like your generalizations, but I'll bet you chafe when someone generalizes about you. Sure you'll say you don't, but if that's really the case then you really don't stand for anything.
I can't believe that you are subscribing to the belief that there are no generalized characteristic differences between the users of different types of cars. You should ring up the car companies... cause their whole marketing strategy is based on specific targeted demographics, gender and disposable income sets. You could save them millions in wasted advertising and design strategies by letting them in on the revelation that all car buyers are random.alienator said:Yes it does. Those practices are based on insurance company statistics. You should read better. Or maybe you think one set of insurance statistical data is better than the other. That's a ripe one if you do.
And FWIW, it's been shown in many cases that the conclusions of the insurance companies re: their statistics have been dead wrong. Many times.
It's not just that. Why should alienator be wasting his time doing physics for chump change. If the insurance companies have mispriced insurance rates then that is a huge opportunity to make bank. There are millions of sports car owners out there who would leap at a chance for reduced rates. You would have to beat them off with a stick.Crankyfeet said:I can't believe that you are subscribing to the belief that there are no generalized characteristic differences between the users of different types of cars. You should ring up the car companies... cause their whole marketing strategy is based on specific targeted demographics, gender and disposable income sets. You could save them millions in wasted advertising and design strategies by letting them in on the revelation that all car buyers are random.
Bro Deal said:It's not just that. Why should alienator be wasting his time doing physics for chump change. If the insurance companies have mispriced insurance rates then that is a huge opportunity to make bank. There are millions of sports car owners out there who would leap at a chance for reduced rates. You would have to beat them off with a stick.
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