M
Mikael Seierup
Guest
Mikael add both to his killfile... Which part of "Take it somewhere else" did you two not
understand?
understand?
- Status
L
Larry Varney
Guest
Ed Gin & Shirleen Kajiwara wrote:
> Jim McNamara wrote:
>
>
>>Hi ... Von Diesel, mjrides, Ed Gin ... all one an the same
>
>
> Ed adds the truth
I know just one of the two (or three, or four, or...) of you, but obviously not well enough. Ed,
why are you posting this stuff on ARBR? If it involves something illegal, then why don't you take
it to the police? If it's something that started on some monkey island forum, why are you posting
it here? Do you believe that many - or any - of the readers of this paricular news group cares
whether or not you are lying, or Jim MacNamara is lying? And about such important topics as
whether or not someone got kicked off a newsgroup, and if semantics indicates that it was a list
instead? As you say, "get a life and move on". You say you did that, and yet you continue to post
these lurid tales which, if true, belong in the hands of the legal authorities.
--
Larry Varney Cold Spring, KY http://home.fuse.net/larryvarney
> Jim McNamara wrote:
>
>
>>Hi ... Von Diesel, mjrides, Ed Gin ... all one an the same
>
>
> Ed adds the truth
I know just one of the two (or three, or four, or...) of you, but obviously not well enough. Ed,
why are you posting this stuff on ARBR? If it involves something illegal, then why don't you take
it to the police? If it's something that started on some monkey island forum, why are you posting
it here? Do you believe that many - or any - of the readers of this paricular news group cares
whether or not you are lying, or Jim MacNamara is lying? And about such important topics as
whether or not someone got kicked off a newsgroup, and if semantics indicates that it was a list
instead? As you say, "get a life and move on". You say you did that, and yet you continue to post
these lurid tales which, if true, belong in the hands of the legal authorities.
--
Larry Varney Cold Spring, KY http://home.fuse.net/larryvarney
E
Ed Gin & Shirle
Guest
Larry,
There is only one of me on ARBR.
I'm gone.............
Ed Gin
Larry Varney wrote:
> Ed Gin & Shirleen Kajiwara wrote:
> > Jim McNamara wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Hi ... Von Diesel, mjrides, Ed Gin ... all one an the same
> >
> >
> > Ed adds the truth
>
> I know just one of the two (or three, or four, or...) of you, but obviously not well enough.
> Ed, why are you posting this stuff on ARBR? If it involves something illegal, then why don't
> you take it to the police? If it's something that started on some monkey island forum, why are
> you posting it here? Do you believe that many - or any - of the readers of this paricular news
> group cares whether or not you are lying, or Jim MacNamara is lying? And about such important
> topics as whether or not someone got kicked off a newsgroup, and if semantics indicates that it
> was a list instead? As you say, "get a life and move on". You say you did that, and yet you
> continue to post these lurid tales which, if true, belong in the hands of the legal
> authorities.
>
> --
> Larry Varney Cold Spring, KY http://home.fuse.net/larryvarney
There is only one of me on ARBR.
I'm gone.............
Ed Gin
Larry Varney wrote:
> Ed Gin & Shirleen Kajiwara wrote:
> > Jim McNamara wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Hi ... Von Diesel, mjrides, Ed Gin ... all one an the same
> >
> >
> > Ed adds the truth
>
> I know just one of the two (or three, or four, or...) of you, but obviously not well enough.
> Ed, why are you posting this stuff on ARBR? If it involves something illegal, then why don't
> you take it to the police? If it's something that started on some monkey island forum, why are
> you posting it here? Do you believe that many - or any - of the readers of this paricular news
> group cares whether or not you are lying, or Jim MacNamara is lying? And about such important
> topics as whether or not someone got kicked off a newsgroup, and if semantics indicates that it
> was a list instead? As you say, "get a life and move on". You say you did that, and yet you
> continue to post these lurid tales which, if true, belong in the hands of the legal
> authorities.
>
> --
> Larry Varney Cold Spring, KY http://home.fuse.net/larryvarney
Mr. Gin,
I'm one of the moderators at the Recumbents.com site that Jimmy McNamara is now permanently banned from posting messages to.
After weeks of Jimmy McNamara posting messages in numerous threads filled with non productive hateful oriented posts it was apparent that some action would have to be taken.
Many of the members and guests of Recumbents.com asked Jimmy McNamara to please stop making hate oriented posts with no positive results from Jimmy McNamara.
Finally after Jimmy McNamara uploaded a virus to our list server not once but twice was the decision reached to delete all his posts and any future attempts.
Those are the real facts.
Now when you or anyone else makes a trip to the Recumbents.com forums you will not find one acid post by Jimmy McNamara and this is a positive direction for the site.
Regards,
ModRatorMan
I'm one of the moderators at the Recumbents.com site that Jimmy McNamara is now permanently banned from posting messages to.
After weeks of Jimmy McNamara posting messages in numerous threads filled with non productive hateful oriented posts it was apparent that some action would have to be taken.
Many of the members and guests of Recumbents.com asked Jimmy McNamara to please stop making hate oriented posts with no positive results from Jimmy McNamara.
Finally after Jimmy McNamara uploaded a virus to our list server not once but twice was the decision reached to delete all his posts and any future attempts.
Those are the real facts.
Now when you or anyone else makes a trip to the Recumbents.com forums you will not find one acid post by Jimmy McNamara and this is a positive direction for the site.
Regards,
ModRatorMan
A
A&B
Guest
?
Ian wrote:
> Jim McNamara must be edykated coz e writed:
>
> > Hi ... Von Diesel, mjrides, Ed Gin ... all one an the same
> >
> > In response to your latest LIES:
> Can you two ladies get a room?
>
> --
> Ian
Ian wrote:
> Jim McNamara must be edykated coz e writed:
>
> > Hi ... Von Diesel, mjrides, Ed Gin ... all one an the same
> >
> > In response to your latest LIES:
> Can you two ladies get a room?
>
> --
> Ian
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Larry Varney
Guest
ModRatorMan wrote:
>Mr. Gin, I'm one of the moderators at the Recumbents.com site that Jimmy
> McNamara is now permanently banned from posting messages to.
>
> After weeks of Jimmy McNamara posting messages in numerous threads filled with non productive
> hateful oriented posts it was apparent that some action would have to be taken.
>
> Many of the members and guests of Recumbents.com asked Jimmy McNamara to please stop making hate
> oriented posts with no positive results from Jimmy McNamara.
>
> Finally after Jimmy McNamara uploaded a virus to our list server not once but twice was the
> decision reached to delete all his posts and any future attempts.
>
> Those are the real facts.
>
> Now when you or anyone else makes a trip to the Recumbents.com forums you will not find one acid
> post by Jimmy McNamara and this is a positive direction for the site.
>
> Regards, ModRatorMan
>
>
>
> --
>
>>--------------------------<
>
> Posted via cyclingforums.com http://www.cyclingforums.com
And the "action" you decided to take regarding some forum on recumbents.com, involved posting
somewhere else, in particular this newsgroup? Why? I can see banning someone from your board, if
you feel that their posts are inappropriate, but why are you posting about it here? Look, it's
not that I think that all off-topic posts should never find their way on to this newsgroup, but I
just have to wonder. There appears to be some problem between this Jimmy McNamara and Ed Gin.
There are accusations of criminal behavior. And now we're told that Jimmy McNamara posted
improperly on you board. And for some reason you all want to tell the readers of ARBR about
it. Why?
--
Larry Varney Cold Spring, KY http://home.fuse.net/larryvarney
>Mr. Gin, I'm one of the moderators at the Recumbents.com site that Jimmy
> McNamara is now permanently banned from posting messages to.
>
> After weeks of Jimmy McNamara posting messages in numerous threads filled with non productive
> hateful oriented posts it was apparent that some action would have to be taken.
>
> Many of the members and guests of Recumbents.com asked Jimmy McNamara to please stop making hate
> oriented posts with no positive results from Jimmy McNamara.
>
> Finally after Jimmy McNamara uploaded a virus to our list server not once but twice was the
> decision reached to delete all his posts and any future attempts.
>
> Those are the real facts.
>
> Now when you or anyone else makes a trip to the Recumbents.com forums you will not find one acid
> post by Jimmy McNamara and this is a positive direction for the site.
>
> Regards, ModRatorMan
>
>
>
> --
>
>>--------------------------<
>
> Posted via cyclingforums.com http://www.cyclingforums.com
And the "action" you decided to take regarding some forum on recumbents.com, involved posting
somewhere else, in particular this newsgroup? Why? I can see banning someone from your board, if
you feel that their posts are inappropriate, but why are you posting about it here? Look, it's
not that I think that all off-topic posts should never find their way on to this newsgroup, but I
just have to wonder. There appears to be some problem between this Jimmy McNamara and Ed Gin.
There are accusations of criminal behavior. And now we're told that Jimmy McNamara posted
improperly on you board. And for some reason you all want to tell the readers of ARBR about
it. Why?
--
Larry Varney Cold Spring, KY http://home.fuse.net/larryvarney
I
Ian
Guest
a&b must be edykated coz e writed:
> ?
>
> Ian wrote:
>
>> Jim McNamara must be edykated coz e writed:
>>
>>> Hi ... Von Diesel, mjrides, Ed Gin ... all one an the same
>>>
>>> In response to your latest LIES:
>> Can you two ladies get a room?
>>
>> --
>> Ian
>>
>>
>
Looks like love to me.
--
Ian
> ?
>
> Ian wrote:
>
>> Jim McNamara must be edykated coz e writed:
>>
>>> Hi ... Von Diesel, mjrides, Ed Gin ... all one an the same
>>>
>>> In response to your latest LIES:
>> Can you two ladies get a room?
>>
>> --
>> Ian
>>
>>
>
Looks like love to me.
--
Ian
Mr. Varney,
I made my post to let members of the Cycling Forums list know they will not have to endure the non productive and non recumbent related posts that Jimmy McNamara is famous for while they visit Recumbents.com.
When Jimmy McNamara was posting hateful and destructive personal attacks for a brief period our readership was decreasing. Once Jimmy McNamara was banned from the site our viewership increased substantially.
Now anyone can visit the Recumbents.com site with topics which cover general, technical, Battle Mountain, HPV racing, Trikes, Reviews and Bike Parts Exchange and there will be no problems from jimmy McNamara to contend with unlike the what is currently happening on this forum.
Best Regards,
ModRatorMan
There are accusations of criminal behavior. And now we're told that Jimmy McNamara posted improperly on you board. And for some reason you all want to tell the readers of ARBR about it. Why?
I made my post to let members of the Cycling Forums list know they will not have to endure the non productive and non recumbent related posts that Jimmy McNamara is famous for while they visit Recumbents.com.
When Jimmy McNamara was posting hateful and destructive personal attacks for a brief period our readership was decreasing. Once Jimmy McNamara was banned from the site our viewership increased substantially.
Now anyone can visit the Recumbents.com site with topics which cover general, technical, Battle Mountain, HPV racing, Trikes, Reviews and Bike Parts Exchange and there will be no problems from jimmy McNamara to contend with unlike the what is currently happening on this forum.
Best Regards,
ModRatorMan
There are accusations of criminal behavior. And now we're told that Jimmy McNamara posted improperly on you board. And for some reason you all want to tell the readers of ARBR about it. Why?
L
Larry Varney
Guest
ModRatorMan wrote:
> Mr. Varney, I made my post to let members of the Cycling Forums list know they will not have to
> endure the non productive and non recumbent related posts that Jimmy McNamara is famous for
> while they visit Recumbents.com.
>
> When Jimmy McNamara was posting hateful and destructive personal attacks for a brief period our
> readership was decreasing. Once Jimmy McNamara was banned from the site our viewership increased
> substantially.
>
> Now anyone can visit the Recumbents.com site with topics which cover general, technical, Battle
> Mountain, HPV racing, Trikes, Reviews and Bike Parts Exchange and there will be no problems from
> jimmy McNamara to contend with unlike the what is currently happening on this forum.
>
> Best Regards, ModRatorMan
>
>
> There are accusations of criminal behavior. And now we're told that Jimmy McNamara posted
> improperly on you board. And for some reason you all want to tell the readers of ARBR about
> it. Why?
>
>
This is not the Cycling Forums list - this is alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent. And, up until the
recent onslaught of accusations, there have been no problem posts on this list from Jimmy
McNamara, nor any concerning him. I don't know how long you've been reading this list, but
"there will be no problems from jimmy McNamara to contend with unlike the what is currently
happening on this forum" is far from the truth - or the facts, as some have been saying.
Take a look, and see how many posts on a.r.b.r Jimmy McNamara has posted over the past week,
month, year - and see how many are "hateful and destructive". I'm not saying he hasn't
posted such things on your forum, but this newsgroup up until recently has barely even heard
a peep from him.
--
Larry Varney Cold Spring, KY http://home.fuse.net/larryvarney
> Mr. Varney, I made my post to let members of the Cycling Forums list know they will not have to
> endure the non productive and non recumbent related posts that Jimmy McNamara is famous for
> while they visit Recumbents.com.
>
> When Jimmy McNamara was posting hateful and destructive personal attacks for a brief period our
> readership was decreasing. Once Jimmy McNamara was banned from the site our viewership increased
> substantially.
>
> Now anyone can visit the Recumbents.com site with topics which cover general, technical, Battle
> Mountain, HPV racing, Trikes, Reviews and Bike Parts Exchange and there will be no problems from
> jimmy McNamara to contend with unlike the what is currently happening on this forum.
>
> Best Regards, ModRatorMan
>
>
> There are accusations of criminal behavior. And now we're told that Jimmy McNamara posted
> improperly on you board. And for some reason you all want to tell the readers of ARBR about
> it. Why?
>
>
This is not the Cycling Forums list - this is alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent. And, up until the
recent onslaught of accusations, there have been no problem posts on this list from Jimmy
McNamara, nor any concerning him. I don't know how long you've been reading this list, but
"there will be no problems from jimmy McNamara to contend with unlike the what is currently
happening on this forum" is far from the truth - or the facts, as some have been saying.
Take a look, and see how many posts on a.r.b.r Jimmy McNamara has posted over the past week,
month, year - and see how many are "hateful and destructive". I'm not saying he hasn't
posted such things on your forum, but this newsgroup up until recently has barely even heard
a peep from him.
--
Larry Varney Cold Spring, KY http://home.fuse.net/larryvarney
Mr. Varney,
I am a registered user at cyclingforums.com. Eventually posts on cyclingforums end up on alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent.
It was brought to my attention that Jimmy McNamara posted previously that he had not been banned from any recumbent newsgroups.
He has been prohibited from posting at Recumbents.com for hate oriented posts and uploading a virus not once but twice to the list server.
I do not follow the a.r.b.r. forum that you belong to.
Regards,
ModRatorMan
This is not the Cycling Forums list - this is alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent.....
I am a registered user at cyclingforums.com. Eventually posts on cyclingforums end up on alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent.
It was brought to my attention that Jimmy McNamara posted previously that he had not been banned from any recumbent newsgroups.
He has been prohibited from posting at Recumbents.com for hate oriented posts and uploading a virus not once but twice to the list server.
I do not follow the a.r.b.r. forum that you belong to.
Regards,
ModRatorMan
This is not the Cycling Forums list - this is alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent.....
L
Larry Varney
Guest
ModRatorMan wrote:
> Mr. Varney, I am a registered user at cyclingforums.com. Eventually posts on cyclingforums end up
> on alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent.
>
> It was brought to my attention that Jimmy McNamara posted previously that he had not been banned
> from any recumbent newsgroups.
>
> He has been prohibited from posting at Recumbents.com for hate oriented posts and uploading a
> virus not once but twice to the list server.
>
> I do not follow the a.r.b.r. forum that you belong to.
>
> Regards, ModRatorMan
>
> This is not the Cycling Forums list - this is alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent.....
>
>
>
> --
>
>>--------------------------<
>
> Posted via cyclingforums.com http://www.cyclingforums.com
This just seems so odd, then, that if eventually things posted on cyclingforums.com winds up on
a.r.b.r., why we haven't seen any of your posts before, nor all of those posts of Jimmy McNamara
that you've referred to. And since I'm not posting to cyclingforums.com, but to
alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent, how you're even seeing my posts. Is this some automatic process, that
transfers posts on this newsgroup to a moderated forum, and vice-versa? And is recumbents.com,
from which this Jimmy McNamara has been banned, a newsgroup? Or is it a list?
--
Larry Varney Cold Spring, KY http://home.fuse.net/larryvarney
> Mr. Varney, I am a registered user at cyclingforums.com. Eventually posts on cyclingforums end up
> on alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent.
>
> It was brought to my attention that Jimmy McNamara posted previously that he had not been banned
> from any recumbent newsgroups.
>
> He has been prohibited from posting at Recumbents.com for hate oriented posts and uploading a
> virus not once but twice to the list server.
>
> I do not follow the a.r.b.r. forum that you belong to.
>
> Regards, ModRatorMan
>
> This is not the Cycling Forums list - this is alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent.....
>
>
>
> --
>
>>--------------------------<
>
> Posted via cyclingforums.com http://www.cyclingforums.com
This just seems so odd, then, that if eventually things posted on cyclingforums.com winds up on
a.r.b.r., why we haven't seen any of your posts before, nor all of those posts of Jimmy McNamara
that you've referred to. And since I'm not posting to cyclingforums.com, but to
alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent, how you're even seeing my posts. Is this some automatic process, that
transfers posts on this newsgroup to a moderated forum, and vice-versa? And is recumbents.com,
from which this Jimmy McNamara has been banned, a newsgroup? Or is it a list?
--
Larry Varney Cold Spring, KY http://home.fuse.net/larryvarney
J
Jim McNamara
Guest
Ed - ModRatorMan - Gin alleged...
> Finally after Jimmy McNamara uploaded a virus to our list server not once but twice was the
> decision reached to delete all his posts and any future attempts.
Cowardice becomes you. Why don't you muster the testicular fortitude to use your real name when you
post rather than masquerade behind yet another one of your many contrived pseudonyms? Perhaps,
because this libelous tripe is grounds for a lawsuit? I flatly deny your latest outrageous
accusation that I uploaded a virus to the listserv. If I did, why haven't you pursued this matter
with the authorities? As a retired IT specialist who was a member of a virus response team, I am
well aware of the adverse impact that insidious rogue code can have. I may have issues with you Ed,
but I do not have issues with all that are served by the listserv. I not only did not, I also would
not even consider taking the action that you accused me of. You made the accusation, but as usual,
offered no evidence. Where's you proof? I challenge you to either produce your proof or write a
retraction. If you do neither, I will (and the readership may also) assume that you have once again
fabricated another non-event, concocted for the sole purpose of smearing my name. Ed, you don't seem
to know the difference between LIES and FACTS. You characteristically present unsubstantiated
allegations as if they were "facts" in order to deliberately besmirch me. That is just your
denigrating nature. The fact remains that in making an accusation, the burden of proof rest with the
accuser. The fact remains, that when challenged to substantiate your untenable allegations, you
offer no proof. The fact remains that nothing is proven in the absence of evidence. The fact remains
that I have often suggested that you either put up or shut up, but you tenaciously persevere with
more inane, superfluous drivel. Ed, no matter kind of spin you vainly attempt to put on things, the
fact remains that an uncorroborated assertion, does not a fact make. The bottom line is that no
matter how diligent you are in your endeavors to distort the facts, the facts still remain the facts
... and, like it or not, THAT'S A FACT!!! I guess I only have myself to blame for this one. I asked
you to come up with some new material and you did exactly that. With that said, allow me to
reiterate ... I did not upload a virus to the listserv and your assertion that I did is a LIE not a
FACT. I challenge you to prove otherwise or I challenge you to be man enough to write a retraction.
Of course, silence is always an option, but silence is also tantamount to an admission.
Jim McNamara
ModRatorMan <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
>Mr. Gin, I'm one of the moderators at the Recumbents.com site that Jimmy
> McNamara is now permanently banned from posting messages to.
>
> After weeks of Jimmy McNamara posting messages in numerous threads filled with non productive
> hateful oriented posts it was apparent that some action would have to be taken.
>
> Many of the members and guests of Recumbents.com asked Jimmy McNamara to please stop making hate
> oriented posts with no positive results from Jimmy McNamara.
>
> Finally after Jimmy McNamara uploaded a virus to our list server not once but twice was the
> decision reached to delete all his posts and any future attempts.
>
> Those are the real facts.
>
> Now when you or anyone else makes a trip to the Recumbents.com forums you will not find one acid
> post by Jimmy McNamara and this is a positive direction for the site.
>
> Regards, ModRatorMan
> Finally after Jimmy McNamara uploaded a virus to our list server not once but twice was the
> decision reached to delete all his posts and any future attempts.
Cowardice becomes you. Why don't you muster the testicular fortitude to use your real name when you
post rather than masquerade behind yet another one of your many contrived pseudonyms? Perhaps,
because this libelous tripe is grounds for a lawsuit? I flatly deny your latest outrageous
accusation that I uploaded a virus to the listserv. If I did, why haven't you pursued this matter
with the authorities? As a retired IT specialist who was a member of a virus response team, I am
well aware of the adverse impact that insidious rogue code can have. I may have issues with you Ed,
but I do not have issues with all that are served by the listserv. I not only did not, I also would
not even consider taking the action that you accused me of. You made the accusation, but as usual,
offered no evidence. Where's you proof? I challenge you to either produce your proof or write a
retraction. If you do neither, I will (and the readership may also) assume that you have once again
fabricated another non-event, concocted for the sole purpose of smearing my name. Ed, you don't seem
to know the difference between LIES and FACTS. You characteristically present unsubstantiated
allegations as if they were "facts" in order to deliberately besmirch me. That is just your
denigrating nature. The fact remains that in making an accusation, the burden of proof rest with the
accuser. The fact remains, that when challenged to substantiate your untenable allegations, you
offer no proof. The fact remains that nothing is proven in the absence of evidence. The fact remains
that I have often suggested that you either put up or shut up, but you tenaciously persevere with
more inane, superfluous drivel. Ed, no matter kind of spin you vainly attempt to put on things, the
fact remains that an uncorroborated assertion, does not a fact make. The bottom line is that no
matter how diligent you are in your endeavors to distort the facts, the facts still remain the facts
... and, like it or not, THAT'S A FACT!!! I guess I only have myself to blame for this one. I asked
you to come up with some new material and you did exactly that. With that said, allow me to
reiterate ... I did not upload a virus to the listserv and your assertion that I did is a LIE not a
FACT. I challenge you to prove otherwise or I challenge you to be man enough to write a retraction.
Of course, silence is always an option, but silence is also tantamount to an admission.
Jim McNamara
ModRatorMan <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
>Mr. Gin, I'm one of the moderators at the Recumbents.com site that Jimmy
> McNamara is now permanently banned from posting messages to.
>
> After weeks of Jimmy McNamara posting messages in numerous threads filled with non productive
> hateful oriented posts it was apparent that some action would have to be taken.
>
> Many of the members and guests of Recumbents.com asked Jimmy McNamara to please stop making hate
> oriented posts with no positive results from Jimmy McNamara.
>
> Finally after Jimmy McNamara uploaded a virus to our list server not once but twice was the
> decision reached to delete all his posts and any future attempts.
>
> Those are the real facts.
>
> Now when you or anyone else makes a trip to the Recumbents.com forums you will not find one acid
> post by Jimmy McNamara and this is a positive direction for the site.
>
> Regards, ModRatorMan
J
Jim McNamara
Guest
Ed - Von Diesel, forestglen, etc. - Gin,
The TRUTH? Ed you don't know the meaning of the word. To you, truth is like modeling clay ...
something that you can twist, distort and into whatever form that suits you regardless of how
little it resembles itself anymore. Truth is truth. It need not be ADDED, so as far as "Ed adds
the truth...
Ed adds the truth, Von Diesl, mjrides are not Ed Gin.
... B.S. They are and you know it. I didn't say "Von Diesl" though.
I said "Von Diesel". Trying to be clever again? Don't hurt yourself.
Oops, I forgot to include "forestglen". Yep ... he's Ed Gin too.
Ed adds the truth - by your own admission, you were BOOTED OFF the HPV list serve.
... By my own admission, I wasn't BOOTED OFF, but was TEMPORARILY SUSPENDED from posting on the PHV
, as were you, but my posting status was restored long before yours was because you made the initial
inflammatory "off-topic" post. By the was it is "listserv" (a single word without the "e").
Ed adds the truth - Recumbents.com host a forum where you are BANNED for off topic posts!
http://www.recumbents.com/monkeyisland/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=3
... Then, Recumbents.com is a WEBSITE after all. It just happens to host a number of forums. On
Monkey Island, it appears that I wasn't banned so much as my posts are quickly removed by none other
than the new moderator (read dictator) ... Ed Gin. Off-topic posts you say? Don't make me laugh.
Monkey Island is a forum where off-topic posts abound. Oh sure there is hollow rhetoric espoused
regarding it being an unmoderated forum where members, some of whom were banned from BROL, can say
what they please, but this is obviously untrue if my posts are removed or I have been banned as you
have alleged.
Ed adds the truth - And Jimmy, BROL is at: http://pub152.ezboard.com/bbentrideronline This site has
nothing to do with "www.recumbeneets.com" (your spelling is atrocious)! I'm glad you are registered
at BROL, let's just see how well you contribute to the board with ON TOPIC material.
... That was simply a keyboard slip, but I see that you took the liberty of adding an additiona; "e"
to make my "misspelling" appear even more "atrocious". I find your ridiculing my spelling to be
amusing coming from someon who commonly misspells words ... "prowlness" instead of "prowess" ...
"list serve" instead of "listserv", for example. You should master the English language before
assuming the role of critic; don't you agree? You have yet to learn the proper use of the word
"whom", your sentence structure is deplorable, your grammatical errors are abundant and yet you
consider yourself qualified to home school your children. As concerns where BROL is at, I know. I
had to register ... remember? Nonetheless, without going into detail, suffice it to say that BROL
can be linked to in more than one way. I just happened to have provided an alternative method, so
what's you point? For instance this is a valid link: http://www.recumbents.com/brol_webboard.htm. So
much for your meager attempt at sarcasm.
Ed adds the truth - by your own admission you are booted off a recumbent Racing Forum:
http://www.recumbents.com/monkeyisland/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=3
... I should proof read more carefully, I suppose. I make no such admission. I meant to say ... "If
I was "booted off" that forum (Monkey Island), I would consider that to be a badge of honor." By the
way, there is a big difference between being banned (banished) and being censored by the moderator
who just happens to be the ever so "fair and impartial" Ed Gin. Can you discern the not so sublte
difference between banishment and censorship or, like so many other concepts, does that also exceed
your grasp?
> As concerns posting first, I DIDN'T ... Ed didn't ... Von Diesel did, but wait a minute ... Von
> Diesel is one of Ed's many
> pseudonyms, so you be the judge who posted first.
Ed adds the truth - Jimmy posted his OFF TOPIC venom at Monkey Island weeks ago FIRST, Von Diesel
(not Ed) replied, and Jimmy was banned soon thereafter.
... I was refering to here, on this newsgroup, dullard. My recent post at Monkey Island addressed a
completely different issue altogether. It was about a WORM. I've tried to explain all of that to
you, but you just don't get it. You ported that discussion over to this newsgroup just like you
ported our previous newsgroup argument over to the HPV list, so don't try to pin this one on me.
Then, in a discussion between Ed - Von Diesel - Gin and Ed - forestglen - Gin, you launched the
diesel thread. Readers, take particular note of what follows then Von Diesel and forestglen
usernames. Look what is contained in parenthesis. Identical aren't they? Coincidence? I think not!
Now, note the post times ... just a few minutes apart, aren't they? I takes hours, not minutes for a
posting to appear. Cunsequently, it is reasonable to assume that one and the same person made these
postings under the pretence of assumed pseudonyms. Care to guess who? Here's a hint ... Ed - not so
slick - Gin.
> 5. I did once and only once post a single private email, not of Ed's, but of another in response
> to hate mail. I did so because I was unable to respond privately because I was placed in that
> person's email kill file.
The truth - when placed in a kill file, get a life and move on, like I did for years with you!
... The truth was as stated in #5 above. You never moved on anymore than I did and you know it. You
just hel your tounge for .
> Ed just how different is the posting publicly of something that was entrusted to you in
> confidence?
NOW HERE IS THE REAL ISSUE AT HAND, WHAT WAS THAT YOU "ENTRUSTED ME WITH?" COULD THAT BE POURING
LINSEED OIL IN THE GAS TANK OF YOUR NEIGHBOR'S CATERING TRUCK? IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE REFERRING TO?
PLEASE ENLIGHTEN ME, JIMMY? Remember how I warned of your stupid decision to brag about it to many
neighbors, (Bob), friends (Jerry), your spouse and family members?
... We've been over this countless times and I have concluded that you are beyond enlightenment. By
the way, you should get that CAPS LOCK key fixed. It appears to be STUCK.
The truth - your letter arrived the holiday season with no postmark, but I recognized the writing
style and disposed of it pronto. My assumption is it was hand delivered.
... You assumed incorrectly. Allow me to refresh you memory. The letter arrived in a Christmas card
with no return address, but the envelope was stamped. If it was not postmarked, that's an issue for
you to take up with the post office ... not me.
The truth - 5 years ago, I parted company and ignored all your posts publicly, kill filed your
email, and tolerated your incessant ********. April 17th, 2003 was when I posted my message about
how hateful you are. Note this is a period of MANY YEARS ignoring you. Since then your constant
whining is well known all over the net as well as your association with linseed oil.
... You have the audacity to speak of hatred ... you who sent emails to Gary Brown making fun of his
disability. Now that is what I call hateful. What do you call it?
The truth - rules are never abided by criminals pouring linseed oil in gas tanks.
... You never have been known to play by the rules and you are merely trying to deflect attention
form that fact.
The truth - have you considered your acquaintances telling me?
... The few that are even aware are not color blind and are loyal to me, but nice try.
> You are treading on some rather incriminating territory here ... time to set up my
> videocam, again.
The truth - Incriminating huh, HOW ABOUT IT JIMMY, DID YOU POUR LINSEED OIL IN YOUR NEIGHBORS
CATERING TRUCK. HE LIVES ON THE 4800 BLOCK OF CATALPA AVE., CHICAGO, ILLINOIS. 60630, THE HOUSE THAT
HAS THE BIG EVERGREEN TREE YOU POURED POISON ON TO KILL IT BUT FAILED?
... I see that you are still having a problem with that STICKING CAPS LOCK key.
The truth - then give it up and take the losses!
... I will give it up if and when you will. In a previous post you wrote "Differences set aside,
personally I do not want any harm to come to you or your spouse nor any other human being ever.
Continuing to email, commenting on my future posts and displaying your opinion via other venues
regarding Ed Gin is your choice, do what you must. I'm finished with this saga in my life." You're a
real man of your word aren't you ED? How things have changed in only 6 months time.
The truth - the ONLY LOON is you JIMMY, linseed oil does not belong in gas tanks as your military
manual instructs. And in the end you better have your video camera on as MR. 4800 block of Catalpa
Ave. is going to GET EVEN with you.
... I have a video camera, but no military manuals.
Jim McNamara
forestglen <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> Von Diesel,
>
> Ed Gin finally emailed me this message:
>
> Subject: OFF TOPIC...Jimmy McNamara lies again! Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003
> 13:35:15 -0600 From: Ed Gin
>
> Jim McNamara wrote:
>
> Jim falsely claims - Von Diesel, mjrides, Ed Gin ... all one an the same
>
> Ed adds the truth, Von Diesl, mjrides are not Ed Gin.
>
> Jim falesly claims - Ed, I have never been booted of a single newsgroup. Prove otherwise. Truth be
> told,you and I were both temporarily unable to post on the HPV List <snipped to save space
>
> Ed adds the truth - by your own admission, you were BOOTED OFF the HPV list serve.
>
> Jim falsely states - As concerns Recumbents.com, it's a website ... not a forum.
>
> Ed adds the truth - Recumbents.com host a FORUM where you are BANNED for off topic posts!
> http://www.recumbents.com/monkeyisland/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=3
>
> Jim falsely claims - I don't recall even being registered there, but I certainly can post there
> now as the following attests.
>
> Ed adds the truth - I'm sure hoping you're not referring to recumbents.com/monkey island? You
> don't register on Monkey Island to post, moron!
>
> Jim falsely states - I can and did post as anyone can verify at www.recumbenets.com (BROL Forum).
>
> Ed adds the truth - And Jimmy, BROL is at: http://pub152.ezboard.com/bbentrideronline This site
> has nothing to do with "www.recumbeneets.com" (your spelling is atrocious)! I'm glad you are
> registered at BROL, let's just see how well you contribute to the board with ON TOPIC material.
>
> Jim states truely - I was "booted off" that forum, I would consider that to be a badge of honor.
> So, just what newsgroup of forum is it that have I allegedly been booted off or locked out of?
>
> Ed adds the truth - by your own admission you are booted off a recumbent Racing Forum:
> http://www.recumbents.com/monkeyisland/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=3
>
> Jim falsely claims - As concerns posting first, I DIDN'T ... Ed didn't .. Von Diesel did, but wait
> a minute ... Von Diesel is one of Ed's many
> pseudonyms, so you be the judge who posted first.
>
> Ed adds the truth - Jimmy posted his OFF TOPIC venom at Monkey Island weeks ago FIRST, Von Diesel
> (not Ed) replied, and Jimmy was banned soon thereafter.
>
> Jim correctly states - I did once and only once post a single private email, not of Ed's, but of
> another in response to hate mail. I did so because I was unable to respond privately because I was
> placed in this person's email kill file.
>
> Ed adds the comment - when placed in a kill file, get a life and move on, like I did for years
> with you!
>
> Jim asks - Ed just how different is the posting publicly of something that was entrusted to you in
> confidence?
>
> NOW HERE IS THE REAL ISSUE AT HAND, WHAT WAS THAT YOU "ENTRUSTED ME WITH?" COULD THAT BE POURING
> LINSEED OIL IN THE GAS TANK OF YOUR NEIGHBOR'S CATERING TRUCK? IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE REFERRING TO?
> PLEASE ENLIGHTEN ME, JIMMY? Remember how I warned of your stupid decision to brag about it to many
> neighbors, (Bob), friends (Jerry), your spouse and family members?
>
> Jim claims - I have never visited your house Ed and I never placed a letter in your mailbox.
>
> Ed adds - your letter arrived the holiday season with no postmark, but I recognized the writing
> style and disposed of it pronto. My assumption is it was hand delivered. How about your zip locked
> note on my windshield as witnessed by 10 riders, you stalker?
>
> Jim claims falsely - Your many posts as you, as Von Diesel, as mjrides, etc. stand in evidence
> that you didn't let go 5 years ago as claimed, so why pretend otherwise?
>
> Ed state the truth - 5 years ago, I parted company and ignored all your posts publicly, kill filed
> your email, and tolerated your incessant bull****. April 17th, 2003 was when I posted my message
> about how hateful you are. Note this is a period of MANY YEARS ignoring you. Since then your
> constant whining is well known all over the net as well as your association with linseed oil.
>
> Jim begs - Ed, you have failed to respond to many a challenge and/or question, so shy should I
> feel obligated to accommodate your demands? You never have been know to play by the same set
> of rules.
>
> Ed comments - rules are never abided by criminals pouring linseed oil in gas tanks.
>
> Jim states - My car cover is not tan, but gray. Maybe it just looks tan when you are skulking
> about in the dark. The only way that you would have even known that my car is covered is if you
> dropped by my hous in the middle of the night.
>
> Ed adds - have you considered your acquaintances telling me?
>
> Jim threatens - You are treading on some rather incriminating territory here ... time to set up my
> videocam, again.
>
> Ed remarks - Incriminating huh, HOW ABOUT IT JIMMY, DID YOU POUR LINSEED OIL IN YOUR NEIGHBORS
> CATERING TRUCK. HE LIVES ON THE 4800 BLOCK OF CATALPA AVE., CHICAGO, ILLINOIS. 60630, THE HOUSE
> THAT HAS THE BIG EVERGREEN TREE YOU POURED POISON ON TO KILL IT BUT FAILED?
>
> Jim lies by stating - Look, I was willing to let this all go with my previous post, but Ed you
> just had to introduce a few more lies did't you? The fact is that much of this is stale, recycled
> and regurgitated rubbish to which I already responded previously.
>
> Ed replies - then give it up and take your losses!
>
> Jim guesses - Most who have followed this thread have probably already decided that the
> antagonists are both loons and have stopped reading altogether, having long since been bored to
> tears by it all although some are probably rather entertained. Regardless, in the greater scheme
> of things, it matters not, just like you matter not. Jim McNamara
>
> The truth as stated by Ed - the ONLY LOON is you JIMMY, linseed oil does not belong in gas tanks
> as your military manual instructs. And in the end you better have your video camera on as MR. 4800
> block of Catalpa Ave. Chicago, Illinois 60630 is going to GET EVEN with you.
>
> Ed Gin
>
> >
> > Ed Gin & Shirleen Kajiwara <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:<[email protected]>...
> >
> > > Von Diesel,
> > >
> > > You are correct Jimmy already posted on another board he will cease to respond, NOT as
> > > demonstrated on this thread. Matter of fact 5 years ago he e-mail me that "I am not in HIS
> > > UNIVERSE" anymore however he continually harassed me with not only hate e-mail over a period
> > > of years, which were all "kill filed," but objected to many of my posts on the hpv server
> > > publicly whereby he received angry posts for his venom, he then posted private email to the
> > > board, a breach of net etiquette. He even sought correspondence by dropping over my house and
> > > leaving a letter in my mailbox, with no postmark, and once he put a note in a zip locked bag
> > > on my windshield. He is a real nut. He has always been a reactionary type of character
> > > objecting to anything I post publicly whether on ARBR, hpvlistserve, recumbents.com, or even
> > > my own web site. It all stems from the fact that I terminated our friendship and chose to part
> > > company from him. As you stated he was booted from recumbents.com for his hateful messages and
> > > venom which has nothing to do with on topic discussions.
> > >
> > > I will put $$$ he will post something to address me in the future. He can't let go as I have 5
> > > years ago. The recent rash of posts regarding LINSEED OIL and his involvement simply shows the
> > > public what kind of character this Jimmy McNamara is, plain and simple.
> > >
> > > He has never denied the accusation......because it is the truth!
> > >
> > > I'm done with the issue, his neighbor knows about the truth, even his tan car cover can't
> > > protect his vehicle parked in the driveway. This is my FINAL WORD for now! ....... until he
> > > spews his venom again to start it up. He just doesn't know when to stop and cut his losses.
> > >
> > > Ed Gin
> > >
> > >
> > > Von Diesel wrote:
> > >
> > > > No Iliad, It is doubtful this business will ever go away. This Jimmy McNamara character os a
> > > > very nasty troublemaker. The guy just posted he has "unfinshed business" left with Ed Gin.
> > > >
> > > > Jimmy McNamara has been booted off some other newsgroups for the same thing he started up on
> > > > this one. There was a LOT of very sick threatening post made by Jimmy McNamara
> > > > Recumbents.com that had nothing to ddo with bikes and now he is locked out of that forum
> > > >
> > > > All I can say Iliad is lock your gas gap, never give this McNamara any personal information
> > > > and next time a Ed Gin and Jimmy McNamara feud starts up you can be assured that it will be
> > > > Jimmy linseed oil McNamara will be making the first post becuase of his pathetic criminal
> > > > lifestyle with nothing better to do.
> > > >
> > > > Von Diesel
> > > >
> > > > Touché... Now, can we put it rest?
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > >--------------------------<
> > > > Posted via cyclingforums.com http://www.cyclingforums.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Von Diesel,
> >
> > You are correct Jimmy already posted on another board he will cease to respond, NOT as
> > demonstrated on this thread. Matter of fact 5 years ago he e-mail me that "I am not in HIS
> > UNIVERSE" anymore however he continually harassed me with not only hate e-mail over a period of
> > years, which were all "kill filed," but objected to many of my posts on the hpv server publicly
> > whereby he received angry posts for his venom, he then posted private email to the board, a
> > breach of net etiquette. He even sought correspondence by dropping over my house and leaving a
> > letter in my mailbox, with no postmark, and once he put a note in a zip locked bag on my
> > windshield. He is a real nut. He has always been a reactionary type of character objecting to
> > anything I post publicly whether on ARBR, hpvlistserve, recumbents.com, or even my own web site.
> > It all stems from the fact that I terminated our friendship and chose to part company from him.
> > As you stated he was booted from recumbents.com for his hateful messages and venom which has
> > nothing to do with on topic discussions.
> >
> > I will put $$$ he will post something to address me in the future. He can't let go as I have 5
> > years ago. The recent rash of posts regarding LINSEED OIL and his involvement simply shows the
> > public what kind of character this Jimmy McNamara is, plain and simple.
> >
> > He has never denied the accusation......because it is the truth!
> >
> > I'm done with the issue, his neighbor knows about the truth, even his tan car cover can't
> > protect his vehicle parked in the driveway. This is my FINAL WORD for now! ....... until he
> > spews his venom again to start it up. He just doesn't know when to stop and cut his losses.
> >
> > Ed Gin
> >
> >
> > Von Diesel wrote:
> >
> > > No Iliad, It is doubtful this business will ever go away. This Jimmy McNamara character os a
> > > very nasty troublemaker. The guy just posted he has "unfinshed business" left with Ed Gin.
> > >
> > > Jimmy McNamara has been booted off some other newsgroups for the same thing he started up on
> > > this one. There was a LOT of very sick threatening post made by Jimmy McNamara Recumbents.com
> > > that had nothing to ddo with bikes and now he is locked out of that forum
> > >
> > > All I can say Iliad is lock your gas gap, never give this McNamara any personal information
> > > and next time a Ed Gin and Jimmy McNamara feud starts up you can be assured that it will be
> > > Jimmy linseed oil McNamara will be making the first post becuase of his pathetic criminal
> > > lifestyle with nothing better to do.
> > >
> > > Von Diesel
> > >
> > > Touché... Now, can we put it rest?
> > >
> > > --
> > > >--------------------------<
> > > Posted via cyclingforums.com http://www.cyclingforums.com/http://www.cyclingforums.com
The TRUTH? Ed you don't know the meaning of the word. To you, truth is like modeling clay ...
something that you can twist, distort and into whatever form that suits you regardless of how
little it resembles itself anymore. Truth is truth. It need not be ADDED, so as far as "Ed adds
the truth...
Ed adds the truth, Von Diesl, mjrides are not Ed Gin.
... B.S. They are and you know it. I didn't say "Von Diesl" though.
I said "Von Diesel". Trying to be clever again? Don't hurt yourself.
Oops, I forgot to include "forestglen". Yep ... he's Ed Gin too.
Ed adds the truth - by your own admission, you were BOOTED OFF the HPV list serve.
... By my own admission, I wasn't BOOTED OFF, but was TEMPORARILY SUSPENDED from posting on the PHV
, as were you, but my posting status was restored long before yours was because you made the initial
inflammatory "off-topic" post. By the was it is "listserv" (a single word without the "e").
Ed adds the truth - Recumbents.com host a forum where you are BANNED for off topic posts!
http://www.recumbents.com/monkeyisland/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=3
... Then, Recumbents.com is a WEBSITE after all. It just happens to host a number of forums. On
Monkey Island, it appears that I wasn't banned so much as my posts are quickly removed by none other
than the new moderator (read dictator) ... Ed Gin. Off-topic posts you say? Don't make me laugh.
Monkey Island is a forum where off-topic posts abound. Oh sure there is hollow rhetoric espoused
regarding it being an unmoderated forum where members, some of whom were banned from BROL, can say
what they please, but this is obviously untrue if my posts are removed or I have been banned as you
have alleged.
Ed adds the truth - And Jimmy, BROL is at: http://pub152.ezboard.com/bbentrideronline This site has
nothing to do with "www.recumbeneets.com" (your spelling is atrocious)! I'm glad you are registered
at BROL, let's just see how well you contribute to the board with ON TOPIC material.
... That was simply a keyboard slip, but I see that you took the liberty of adding an additiona; "e"
to make my "misspelling" appear even more "atrocious". I find your ridiculing my spelling to be
amusing coming from someon who commonly misspells words ... "prowlness" instead of "prowess" ...
"list serve" instead of "listserv", for example. You should master the English language before
assuming the role of critic; don't you agree? You have yet to learn the proper use of the word
"whom", your sentence structure is deplorable, your grammatical errors are abundant and yet you
consider yourself qualified to home school your children. As concerns where BROL is at, I know. I
had to register ... remember? Nonetheless, without going into detail, suffice it to say that BROL
can be linked to in more than one way. I just happened to have provided an alternative method, so
what's you point? For instance this is a valid link: http://www.recumbents.com/brol_webboard.htm. So
much for your meager attempt at sarcasm.
Ed adds the truth - by your own admission you are booted off a recumbent Racing Forum:
http://www.recumbents.com/monkeyisland/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=3
... I should proof read more carefully, I suppose. I make no such admission. I meant to say ... "If
I was "booted off" that forum (Monkey Island), I would consider that to be a badge of honor." By the
way, there is a big difference between being banned (banished) and being censored by the moderator
who just happens to be the ever so "fair and impartial" Ed Gin. Can you discern the not so sublte
difference between banishment and censorship or, like so many other concepts, does that also exceed
your grasp?
> As concerns posting first, I DIDN'T ... Ed didn't ... Von Diesel did, but wait a minute ... Von
> Diesel is one of Ed's many
> pseudonyms, so you be the judge who posted first.
Ed adds the truth - Jimmy posted his OFF TOPIC venom at Monkey Island weeks ago FIRST, Von Diesel
(not Ed) replied, and Jimmy was banned soon thereafter.
... I was refering to here, on this newsgroup, dullard. My recent post at Monkey Island addressed a
completely different issue altogether. It was about a WORM. I've tried to explain all of that to
you, but you just don't get it. You ported that discussion over to this newsgroup just like you
ported our previous newsgroup argument over to the HPV list, so don't try to pin this one on me.
Then, in a discussion between Ed - Von Diesel - Gin and Ed - forestglen - Gin, you launched the
diesel thread. Readers, take particular note of what follows then Von Diesel and forestglen
usernames. Look what is contained in parenthesis. Identical aren't they? Coincidence? I think not!
Now, note the post times ... just a few minutes apart, aren't they? I takes hours, not minutes for a
posting to appear. Cunsequently, it is reasonable to assume that one and the same person made these
postings under the pretence of assumed pseudonyms. Care to guess who? Here's a hint ... Ed - not so
slick - Gin.
> 5. I did once and only once post a single private email, not of Ed's, but of another in response
> to hate mail. I did so because I was unable to respond privately because I was placed in that
> person's email kill file.
The truth - when placed in a kill file, get a life and move on, like I did for years with you!
... The truth was as stated in #5 above. You never moved on anymore than I did and you know it. You
just hel your tounge for .
> Ed just how different is the posting publicly of something that was entrusted to you in
> confidence?
NOW HERE IS THE REAL ISSUE AT HAND, WHAT WAS THAT YOU "ENTRUSTED ME WITH?" COULD THAT BE POURING
LINSEED OIL IN THE GAS TANK OF YOUR NEIGHBOR'S CATERING TRUCK? IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE REFERRING TO?
PLEASE ENLIGHTEN ME, JIMMY? Remember how I warned of your stupid decision to brag about it to many
neighbors, (Bob), friends (Jerry), your spouse and family members?
... We've been over this countless times and I have concluded that you are beyond enlightenment. By
the way, you should get that CAPS LOCK key fixed. It appears to be STUCK.
The truth - your letter arrived the holiday season with no postmark, but I recognized the writing
style and disposed of it pronto. My assumption is it was hand delivered.
... You assumed incorrectly. Allow me to refresh you memory. The letter arrived in a Christmas card
with no return address, but the envelope was stamped. If it was not postmarked, that's an issue for
you to take up with the post office ... not me.
The truth - 5 years ago, I parted company and ignored all your posts publicly, kill filed your
email, and tolerated your incessant ********. April 17th, 2003 was when I posted my message about
how hateful you are. Note this is a period of MANY YEARS ignoring you. Since then your constant
whining is well known all over the net as well as your association with linseed oil.
... You have the audacity to speak of hatred ... you who sent emails to Gary Brown making fun of his
disability. Now that is what I call hateful. What do you call it?
The truth - rules are never abided by criminals pouring linseed oil in gas tanks.
... You never have been known to play by the rules and you are merely trying to deflect attention
form that fact.
The truth - have you considered your acquaintances telling me?
... The few that are even aware are not color blind and are loyal to me, but nice try.
> You are treading on some rather incriminating territory here ... time to set up my
> videocam, again.
The truth - Incriminating huh, HOW ABOUT IT JIMMY, DID YOU POUR LINSEED OIL IN YOUR NEIGHBORS
CATERING TRUCK. HE LIVES ON THE 4800 BLOCK OF CATALPA AVE., CHICAGO, ILLINOIS. 60630, THE HOUSE THAT
HAS THE BIG EVERGREEN TREE YOU POURED POISON ON TO KILL IT BUT FAILED?
... I see that you are still having a problem with that STICKING CAPS LOCK key.
The truth - then give it up and take the losses!
... I will give it up if and when you will. In a previous post you wrote "Differences set aside,
personally I do not want any harm to come to you or your spouse nor any other human being ever.
Continuing to email, commenting on my future posts and displaying your opinion via other venues
regarding Ed Gin is your choice, do what you must. I'm finished with this saga in my life." You're a
real man of your word aren't you ED? How things have changed in only 6 months time.
The truth - the ONLY LOON is you JIMMY, linseed oil does not belong in gas tanks as your military
manual instructs. And in the end you better have your video camera on as MR. 4800 block of Catalpa
Ave. is going to GET EVEN with you.
... I have a video camera, but no military manuals.
Jim McNamara
forestglen <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> Von Diesel,
>
> Ed Gin finally emailed me this message:
>
> Subject: OFF TOPIC...Jimmy McNamara lies again! Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003
> 13:35:15 -0600 From: Ed Gin
>
> Jim McNamara wrote:
>
> Jim falsely claims - Von Diesel, mjrides, Ed Gin ... all one an the same
>
> Ed adds the truth, Von Diesl, mjrides are not Ed Gin.
>
> Jim falesly claims - Ed, I have never been booted of a single newsgroup. Prove otherwise. Truth be
> told,you and I were both temporarily unable to post on the HPV List <snipped to save space
>
> Ed adds the truth - by your own admission, you were BOOTED OFF the HPV list serve.
>
> Jim falsely states - As concerns Recumbents.com, it's a website ... not a forum.
>
> Ed adds the truth - Recumbents.com host a FORUM where you are BANNED for off topic posts!
> http://www.recumbents.com/monkeyisland/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=3
>
> Jim falsely claims - I don't recall even being registered there, but I certainly can post there
> now as the following attests.
>
> Ed adds the truth - I'm sure hoping you're not referring to recumbents.com/monkey island? You
> don't register on Monkey Island to post, moron!
>
> Jim falsely states - I can and did post as anyone can verify at www.recumbenets.com (BROL Forum).
>
> Ed adds the truth - And Jimmy, BROL is at: http://pub152.ezboard.com/bbentrideronline This site
> has nothing to do with "www.recumbeneets.com" (your spelling is atrocious)! I'm glad you are
> registered at BROL, let's just see how well you contribute to the board with ON TOPIC material.
>
> Jim states truely - I was "booted off" that forum, I would consider that to be a badge of honor.
> So, just what newsgroup of forum is it that have I allegedly been booted off or locked out of?
>
> Ed adds the truth - by your own admission you are booted off a recumbent Racing Forum:
> http://www.recumbents.com/monkeyisland/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=3
>
> Jim falsely claims - As concerns posting first, I DIDN'T ... Ed didn't .. Von Diesel did, but wait
> a minute ... Von Diesel is one of Ed's many
> pseudonyms, so you be the judge who posted first.
>
> Ed adds the truth - Jimmy posted his OFF TOPIC venom at Monkey Island weeks ago FIRST, Von Diesel
> (not Ed) replied, and Jimmy was banned soon thereafter.
>
> Jim correctly states - I did once and only once post a single private email, not of Ed's, but of
> another in response to hate mail. I did so because I was unable to respond privately because I was
> placed in this person's email kill file.
>
> Ed adds the comment - when placed in a kill file, get a life and move on, like I did for years
> with you!
>
> Jim asks - Ed just how different is the posting publicly of something that was entrusted to you in
> confidence?
>
> NOW HERE IS THE REAL ISSUE AT HAND, WHAT WAS THAT YOU "ENTRUSTED ME WITH?" COULD THAT BE POURING
> LINSEED OIL IN THE GAS TANK OF YOUR NEIGHBOR'S CATERING TRUCK? IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE REFERRING TO?
> PLEASE ENLIGHTEN ME, JIMMY? Remember how I warned of your stupid decision to brag about it to many
> neighbors, (Bob), friends (Jerry), your spouse and family members?
>
> Jim claims - I have never visited your house Ed and I never placed a letter in your mailbox.
>
> Ed adds - your letter arrived the holiday season with no postmark, but I recognized the writing
> style and disposed of it pronto. My assumption is it was hand delivered. How about your zip locked
> note on my windshield as witnessed by 10 riders, you stalker?
>
> Jim claims falsely - Your many posts as you, as Von Diesel, as mjrides, etc. stand in evidence
> that you didn't let go 5 years ago as claimed, so why pretend otherwise?
>
> Ed state the truth - 5 years ago, I parted company and ignored all your posts publicly, kill filed
> your email, and tolerated your incessant bull****. April 17th, 2003 was when I posted my message
> about how hateful you are. Note this is a period of MANY YEARS ignoring you. Since then your
> constant whining is well known all over the net as well as your association with linseed oil.
>
> Jim begs - Ed, you have failed to respond to many a challenge and/or question, so shy should I
> feel obligated to accommodate your demands? You never have been know to play by the same set
> of rules.
>
> Ed comments - rules are never abided by criminals pouring linseed oil in gas tanks.
>
> Jim states - My car cover is not tan, but gray. Maybe it just looks tan when you are skulking
> about in the dark. The only way that you would have even known that my car is covered is if you
> dropped by my hous in the middle of the night.
>
> Ed adds - have you considered your acquaintances telling me?
>
> Jim threatens - You are treading on some rather incriminating territory here ... time to set up my
> videocam, again.
>
> Ed remarks - Incriminating huh, HOW ABOUT IT JIMMY, DID YOU POUR LINSEED OIL IN YOUR NEIGHBORS
> CATERING TRUCK. HE LIVES ON THE 4800 BLOCK OF CATALPA AVE., CHICAGO, ILLINOIS. 60630, THE HOUSE
> THAT HAS THE BIG EVERGREEN TREE YOU POURED POISON ON TO KILL IT BUT FAILED?
>
> Jim lies by stating - Look, I was willing to let this all go with my previous post, but Ed you
> just had to introduce a few more lies did't you? The fact is that much of this is stale, recycled
> and regurgitated rubbish to which I already responded previously.
>
> Ed replies - then give it up and take your losses!
>
> Jim guesses - Most who have followed this thread have probably already decided that the
> antagonists are both loons and have stopped reading altogether, having long since been bored to
> tears by it all although some are probably rather entertained. Regardless, in the greater scheme
> of things, it matters not, just like you matter not. Jim McNamara
>
> The truth as stated by Ed - the ONLY LOON is you JIMMY, linseed oil does not belong in gas tanks
> as your military manual instructs. And in the end you better have your video camera on as MR. 4800
> block of Catalpa Ave. Chicago, Illinois 60630 is going to GET EVEN with you.
>
> Ed Gin
>
> >
> > Ed Gin & Shirleen Kajiwara <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:<[email protected]>...
> >
> > > Von Diesel,
> > >
> > > You are correct Jimmy already posted on another board he will cease to respond, NOT as
> > > demonstrated on this thread. Matter of fact 5 years ago he e-mail me that "I am not in HIS
> > > UNIVERSE" anymore however he continually harassed me with not only hate e-mail over a period
> > > of years, which were all "kill filed," but objected to many of my posts on the hpv server
> > > publicly whereby he received angry posts for his venom, he then posted private email to the
> > > board, a breach of net etiquette. He even sought correspondence by dropping over my house and
> > > leaving a letter in my mailbox, with no postmark, and once he put a note in a zip locked bag
> > > on my windshield. He is a real nut. He has always been a reactionary type of character
> > > objecting to anything I post publicly whether on ARBR, hpvlistserve, recumbents.com, or even
> > > my own web site. It all stems from the fact that I terminated our friendship and chose to part
> > > company from him. As you stated he was booted from recumbents.com for his hateful messages and
> > > venom which has nothing to do with on topic discussions.
> > >
> > > I will put $$$ he will post something to address me in the future. He can't let go as I have 5
> > > years ago. The recent rash of posts regarding LINSEED OIL and his involvement simply shows the
> > > public what kind of character this Jimmy McNamara is, plain and simple.
> > >
> > > He has never denied the accusation......because it is the truth!
> > >
> > > I'm done with the issue, his neighbor knows about the truth, even his tan car cover can't
> > > protect his vehicle parked in the driveway. This is my FINAL WORD for now! ....... until he
> > > spews his venom again to start it up. He just doesn't know when to stop and cut his losses.
> > >
> > > Ed Gin
> > >
> > >
> > > Von Diesel wrote:
> > >
> > > > No Iliad, It is doubtful this business will ever go away. This Jimmy McNamara character os a
> > > > very nasty troublemaker. The guy just posted he has "unfinshed business" left with Ed Gin.
> > > >
> > > > Jimmy McNamara has been booted off some other newsgroups for the same thing he started up on
> > > > this one. There was a LOT of very sick threatening post made by Jimmy McNamara
> > > > Recumbents.com that had nothing to ddo with bikes and now he is locked out of that forum
> > > >
> > > > All I can say Iliad is lock your gas gap, never give this McNamara any personal information
> > > > and next time a Ed Gin and Jimmy McNamara feud starts up you can be assured that it will be
> > > > Jimmy linseed oil McNamara will be making the first post becuase of his pathetic criminal
> > > > lifestyle with nothing better to do.
> > > >
> > > > Von Diesel
> > > >
> > > > Touché... Now, can we put it rest?
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > >--------------------------<
> > > > Posted via cyclingforums.com http://www.cyclingforums.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Von Diesel,
> >
> > You are correct Jimmy already posted on another board he will cease to respond, NOT as
> > demonstrated on this thread. Matter of fact 5 years ago he e-mail me that "I am not in HIS
> > UNIVERSE" anymore however he continually harassed me with not only hate e-mail over a period of
> > years, which were all "kill filed," but objected to many of my posts on the hpv server publicly
> > whereby he received angry posts for his venom, he then posted private email to the board, a
> > breach of net etiquette. He even sought correspondence by dropping over my house and leaving a
> > letter in my mailbox, with no postmark, and once he put a note in a zip locked bag on my
> > windshield. He is a real nut. He has always been a reactionary type of character objecting to
> > anything I post publicly whether on ARBR, hpvlistserve, recumbents.com, or even my own web site.
> > It all stems from the fact that I terminated our friendship and chose to part company from him.
> > As you stated he was booted from recumbents.com for his hateful messages and venom which has
> > nothing to do with on topic discussions.
> >
> > I will put $$$ he will post something to address me in the future. He can't let go as I have 5
> > years ago. The recent rash of posts regarding LINSEED OIL and his involvement simply shows the
> > public what kind of character this Jimmy McNamara is, plain and simple.
> >
> > He has never denied the accusation......because it is the truth!
> >
> > I'm done with the issue, his neighbor knows about the truth, even his tan car cover can't
> > protect his vehicle parked in the driveway. This is my FINAL WORD for now! ....... until he
> > spews his venom again to start it up. He just doesn't know when to stop and cut his losses.
> >
> > Ed Gin
> >
> >
> > Von Diesel wrote:
> >
> > > No Iliad, It is doubtful this business will ever go away. This Jimmy McNamara character os a
> > > very nasty troublemaker. The guy just posted he has "unfinshed business" left with Ed Gin.
> > >
> > > Jimmy McNamara has been booted off some other newsgroups for the same thing he started up on
> > > this one. There was a LOT of very sick threatening post made by Jimmy McNamara Recumbents.com
> > > that had nothing to ddo with bikes and now he is locked out of that forum
> > >
> > > All I can say Iliad is lock your gas gap, never give this McNamara any personal information
> > > and next time a Ed Gin and Jimmy McNamara feud starts up you can be assured that it will be
> > > Jimmy linseed oil McNamara will be making the first post becuase of his pathetic criminal
> > > lifestyle with nothing better to do.
> > >
> > > Von Diesel
> > >
> > > Touché... Now, can we put it rest?
> > >
> > > --
> > > >--------------------------<
> > > Posted via cyclingforums.com http://www.cyclingforums.com/http://www.cyclingforums.com
J
Jim McNamara
Guest
Ed - Von Diesel, forestglen, etc. - Gin,
The TRUTH? Ed you don't know the meaning of the word. To you, truth is like modeling clay ...
something that you can twist, distort and into whatever form that suits you regardless of how
little it resembles itself anymore. Truth is truth. It need not be ADDED, so as far as "Ed adds
the truth...
Ed adds the truth, Von Diesl, mjrides are not Ed Gin.
... B.S. They are and you know it. I didn't say "Von Diesl" though.
I said "Von Diesel". Trying to be clever again? Don't hurt yourself.
Oops, I forgot to include "forestglen". Yep ... he's Ed Gin too.
Ed adds the truth - by your own admission, you were BOOTED OFF the HPV list serve.
... By my own admission, I wasn't BOOTED OFF, but was TEMPORARILY SUSPENDED from posting on the PHV
, as were you, but my posting status was restored long before yours was because you made the initial
inflammatory "off-topic" post. By the was it is "listserv" (a single word without the "e").
Ed adds the truth - Recumbents.com host a forum where you are BANNED for off topic posts!
http://www.recumbents.com/monkeyisland/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=3
... Then, Recumbents.com is a WEBSITE after all. It just happens to host a number of forums. On
Monkey Island, it appears that I wasn't banned so much as my posts are quickly removed by none other
than the new moderator (read dictator) ... Ed Gin. Off-topic posts you say? Don't make me laugh.
Monkey Island is a forum where off-topic posts abound. Oh sure there is hollow rhetoric espoused
regarding it being an unmoderated forum where members, some of whom were banned from BROL, can say
what they please, but this is obviously untrue if my posts are removed or I have been banned as you
have alleged.
Ed adds the truth - And Jimmy, BROL is at: http://pub152.ezboard.com/bbentrideronline This site has
nothing to do with "www.recumbeneets.com" (your spelling is atrocious)! I'm glad you are registered
at BROL, let's just see how well you contribute to the board with ON TOPIC material.
... That was simply a keyboard slip, but I see that you took the liberty of adding an additiona; "e"
to make my "misspelling" appear even more "atrocious". I find your ridiculing my spelling to be
amusing coming from someon who commonly misspells words ... "prowlness" instead of "prowess" ...
"list serve" instead of "listserv", for example. You should master the English language before
assuming the role of critic; don't you agree? You have yet to learn the proper use of the word
"whom", your sentence structure is deplorable, your grammatical errors are abundant and yet you
consider yourself qualified to home school your children. As concerns where BROL is at, I know. I
had to register ... remember? Nonetheless, without going into detail, suffice it to say that BROL
can be linked to in more than one way. I just happened to have provided an alternative method, so
what's you point? For instance this is a valid link: http://www.recumbents.com/brol_webboard.htm. So
much for your meager attempt at sarcasm.
Ed adds the truth - by your own admission you are booted off a recumbent Racing Forum:
http://www.recumbents.com/monkeyisland/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=3
... I should proof read more carefully, I suppose. I make no such admission. I meant to say ... "If
I was "booted off" that forum (Monkey Island), I would consider that to be a badge of honor." By the
way, there is a big difference between being banned (banished) and being censored by the moderator
who just happens to be the ever so "fair and impartial" Ed Gin. Can you discern the not so sublte
difference between banishment and censorship or, like so many other concepts, does that also exceed
your grasp?
> As concerns posting first, I DIDN'T ... Ed didn't ... Von Diesel did, but wait a minute ... Von
> Diesel is one of Ed's many
> pseudonyms, so you be the judge who posted first.
Ed adds the truth - Jimmy posted his OFF TOPIC venom at Monkey Island weeks ago FIRST, Von Diesel
(not Ed) replied, and Jimmy was banned soon thereafter.
... I was refering to here, on this newsgroup, dullard. My recent post at Monkey Island addressed a
completely different issue altogether. It was about a WORM. I've tried to explain all of that to
you, but you just don't get it. You ported that discussion over to this newsgroup just like you
ported our previous newsgroup argument over to the HPV list, so don't try to pin this one on me.
Then, in a discussion between Ed - Von Diesel - Gin and Ed - forestglen - Gin, you launched the
diesel thread. Readers, take particular note of what follows then Von Diesel and forestglen
usernames. Look what is contained in parenthesis. Identical aren't they? Coincidence? I think not!
Now, note the post times ... just a few minutes apart, aren't they? I takes hours, not minutes for a
posting to appear. Cunsequently, it is reasonable to assume that one and the same person made these
postings under the pretence of assumed pseudonyms. Care to guess who? Here's a hint ... Ed - not so
slick - Gin.
> 5. I did once and only once post a single private email, not of Ed's, but of another in response
> to hate mail. I did so because I was unable to respond privately because I was placed in that
> person's email kill file.
The truth - when placed in a kill file, get a life and move on, like I did for years with you!
... The truth was as stated in #5 above. You never moved on anymore than I did and you know it. You
just hel your tounge for .
> Ed just how different is the posting publicly of something that was entrusted to you in
> confidence?
NOW HERE IS THE REAL ISSUE AT HAND, WHAT WAS THAT YOU "ENTRUSTED ME WITH?" COULD THAT BE POURING
LINSEED OIL IN THE GAS TANK OF YOUR NEIGHBOR'S CATERING TRUCK? IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE REFERRING TO?
PLEASE ENLIGHTEN ME, JIMMY? Remember how I warned of your stupid decision to brag about it to many
neighbors, (Bob), friends (Jerry), your spouse and family members?
... We've been over this countless times and I have concluded that you are beyond enlightenment. By
the way, you should get that CAPS LOCK key fixed. It appears to be STUCK.
The truth - your letter arrived the holiday season with no postmark, but I recognized the writing
style and disposed of it pronto. My assumption is it was hand delivered.
... You assumed incorrectly. Allow me to refresh you memory. The letter arrived in a Christmas card
with no return address, but the envelope was stamped. If it was not postmarked, that's an issue for
you to take up with the post office ... not me.
The truth - 5 years ago, I parted company and ignored all your posts publicly, kill filed your
email, and tolerated your incessant ********. April 17th, 2003 was when I posted my message about
how hateful you are. Note this is a period of MANY YEARS ignoring you. Since then your constant
whining is well known all over the net as well as your association with linseed oil.
... You have the audacity to speak of hatred ... you who sent emails to Gary Brown making fun of his
disability. Now that is what I call hateful. What do you call it?
The truth - rules are never abided by criminals pouring linseed oil in gas tanks.
... You never have been known to play by the rules and you are merely trying to deflect attention
form that fact.
The truth - have you considered your acquaintances telling me?
... The few that are even aware are not color blind and are loyal to me, but nice try.
> You are treading on some rather incriminating territory here ... time to set up my
> videocam, again.
The truth - Incriminating huh, HOW ABOUT IT JIMMY, DID YOU POUR LINSEED OIL IN YOUR NEIGHBORS
CATERING TRUCK. HE LIVES ON THE 4800 BLOCK OF CATALPA AVE., CHICAGO, ILLINOIS. 60630, THE HOUSE THAT
HAS THE BIG EVERGREEN TREE YOU POURED POISON ON TO KILL IT BUT FAILED?
... I see that you are still having a problem with that STICKING CAPS LOCK key.
The truth - then give it up and take the losses!
... I will give it up if and when you will. In a previous post you wrote "Differences set aside,
personally I do not want any harm to come to you or your spouse nor any other human being ever.
Continuing to email, commenting on my future posts and displaying your opinion via other venues
regarding Ed Gin is your choice, do what you must. I'm finished with this saga in my life." You're a
real man of your word aren't you ED? How things have changed in only 6 months time.
The truth - the ONLY LOON is you JIMMY, linseed oil does not belong in gas tanks as your military
manual instructs. And in the end you better have your video camera on as MR. 4800 block of Catalpa
Ave. is going to GET EVEN with you.
... I have a video camera, but no military manuals.
Jim McNamara
Ed Gin & Shirleen Kajiwara <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> Jim McNamara wrote:
>
> > Hi ... Von Diesel, mjrides, Ed Gin ... all one an the same
>
> Ed adds the truth, Von Diesl, mjrides are not Ed Gin.
>
> > 1. Ed, I have never been booted of a single newsgroup. Prove otherwise. Truth be told, you and
> > I were both temporarily unable to post on the HPV List <snipped to save space>
>
> Ed adds the truth - by your own admission, you were BOOTED OFF the HPV list serve.
>
> > As concerns Recumbents.com, it's a website ... not a forum.
>
> Ed adds the truth - Recumbents.com host a forum where you are BANNED for off topic posts!
> http://www.recumbents.com/monkeyisland/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=3
>
> > I don't recall even being registered there, but I certainly can post there now as the following
> > attests.
>
> Ed adds the truth - I'm sure hoping you're not referring to recumbents.com/monkey island?
>
> > BentRider Online
> > > General Discussion
> > > Test ... Ignore
> > Just to see if this works ... Jim McNamara
> >
> > Granted, during the registration process I slipped on the keyboard so my username is "iimymac"
> > instead of "jimmymac", but I can and did post as anyone can verify at www.recumbenets.com (BROL
> > Forum).
>
> Ed adds the truth - And Jimmy, BROL is at: http://pub152.ezboard.com/bbentrideronline This site
> has nothing to do with "www.recumbeneets.com" (your spelling is atrocious)! I'm glad you are
> registered at BROL, let's just see how well you contribute to the board with ON TOPIC material.
>
> > <snipped> I was "booted off" that forum, I would consider that to be a badge of honor. So, just
> > what newsgroup of forum is it that have I allegedly been booted off or locked out of?
>
> Ed adds the truth - by your own admission you are booted off a recumbent Racing Forum:
> http://www.recumbents.com/monkeyisland/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=3
>
> > As concerns posting first, I DIDN'T ... Ed didn't ... Von Diesel did, but wait a minute ... Von
> > Diesel is one of Ed's many
> > pseudonyms, so you be the judge who posted first.
>
> Ed adds the truth - Jimmy posted his OFF TOPIC venom at Monkey Island weeks ago FIRST, Von Diesel
> (not Ed) replied, and Jimmy was banned soon thereafter.
>
> > 5. I did once and only once post a single private email, not of Ed's, but of another in
> > response to hate mail. I did so because I was unable to respond privately because I was
> > placed in this person's email kill file.
>
> The truth - when placed in a kill file, get a life and move on, like I did for years with you!
>
> > Ed just how different is the posting publicly of something that was entrusted to you in
> > confidence?
>
> NOW HERE IS THE REAL ISSUE AT HAND, WHAT WAS THAT YOU "ENTRUSTED ME WITH?" COULD THAT BE POURING
> LINSEED OIL IN THE GAS TANK OF YOUR NEIGHBOR'S CATERING TRUCK? IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE REFERRING TO?
> PLEASE ENLIGHTEN ME, JIMMY? Remember how I warned of your stupid decision to brag about it to many
> neighbors, (Bob), friends (Jerry), your spouse and family members?
>
> > 6. I have never visited your house Ed and I never placed a letter in your mailbox.
>
> The truth - your letter arrived the holiday season with no postmark, but I recognized the writing
> style and disposed of it pronto. My assumption is it was hand delivered.
>
> > 7. Your many posts as you, as Von Diesel, as mjrides, etc. stand in evidence that you didn't
> > let go 5 years ago as claimed, so why pretend otherwise?
>
> The truth - 5 years ago, I parted company and ignored all your posts publicly, kill filed your
> email, and tolerated your incessant ********. April 17th, 2003 was when I posted my message about
> how hateful you are. Note this is a period of MANY YEARS ignoring you. Since then your constant
> whining is well known all over the net as well as your association with linseed oil.
>
> > 8. Ed, you have failed to respond to many a challenge and/or question, so shy should I feel
> > obligated to accommodate your demands? You never have been know to play by the same set of
> > rules.
>
> The truth - rules are never abided by criminals pouring linseed oil in gas tanks.
>
> > 9. My car cover is not tan, but gray. Maybe it just looks tan when you are skulking about in
> > the dark. The only way that you would have even known that my car is covered is if you
> > dropped by my hous in the middle of the night.
>
> The truth - have you considered your acquaintances telling me?
>
> > You are treading on some rather incriminating territory here ... time to set up my videocam,
> > again.
>
> The truth - Incriminating huh, HOW ABOUT IT JIMMY, DID YOU POUR LINSEED OIL IN YOUR NEIGHBORS
> CATERING TRUCK. HE LIVES ON THE 4800 BLOCK OF CATALPA AVE., CHICAGO, ILLINOIS. 60630, THE HOUSE
> THAT HAS THE BIG EVERGREEN TREE YOU POURED POISON ON TO KILL IT BUT FAILED?
>
> > 10. Look, I was willing to let this all go with my previous post, but Ed you just had to
> > introduce a few more lies did't you? The fact is that much of this is stale, recycled and
> > regurgitated rubbish to which I already responded previously.
>
> The truth - then give it up and take the losses!
>
> > Most who have followed this thread have probably already decided that the antagonists are both
> > loons and have stopped reading altogether, having long since been bored to tears by it all
> > although some are probably rather entertained. Regardless, in the greater scheme of things, it
> > matters not, just like you matter not.
> >
> > Jim McNamara
>
> The truth - the ONLY LOON is you JIMMY, linseed oil does not belong in gas tanks as your military
> manual instructs. And in the end you better have your video camera on as MR. 4800 block of Catalpa
> Ave. is going to GET EVEN with you.
>
> Ed Gin
>
> >
> > Ed Gin & Shirleen Kajiwara <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:<[email protected]>...
> >
> > > Von Diesel,
> > >
> > > You are correct Jimmy already posted on another board he will cease to respond, NOT as
> > > demonstrated on this thread. Matter of fact 5 years ago he e-mail me that "I am not in HIS
> > > UNIVERSE" anymore however he continually harassed me with not only hate e-mail over a period
> > > of years, which were all "kill filed," but objected to many of my posts on the hpv server
> > > publicly whereby he received angry posts for his venom, he then posted private email to the
> > > board, a breach of net etiquette. He even sought correspondence by dropping over my house and
> > > leaving a letter in my mailbox, with no postmark, and once he put a note in a zip locked bag
> > > on my windshield. He is a real nut. He has always been a reactionary type of character
> > > objecting to anything I post publicly whether on ARBR, hpvlistserve, recumbents.com, or even
> > > my own web site. It all stems from the fact that I terminated our friendship and chose to part
> > > company from him. As you stated he was booted from recumbents.com for his hateful messages and
> > > venom which has nothing to do with on topic discussions.
> > >
> > > I will put $$$ he will post something to address me in the future. He can't let go as I have 5
> > > years ago. The recent rash of posts regarding LINSEED OIL and his involvement simply shows the
> > > public what kind of character this Jimmy McNamara is, plain and simple.
> > >
> > > He has never denied the accusation......because it is the truth!
> > >
> > > I'm done with the issue, his neighbor knows about the truth, even his tan car cover can't
> > > protect his vehicle parked in the driveway. This is my FINAL WORD for now! ....... until he
> > > spews his venom again to start it up. He just doesn't know when to stop and cut his losses.
> > >
> > > Ed Gin
> > >
> > >
> > > Von Diesel wrote:
> > >
> > > > No Iliad, It is doubtful this business will ever go away. This Jimmy McNamara character os a
> > > > very nasty troublemaker. The guy just posted he has "unfinshed business" left with Ed Gin.
> > > >
> > > > Jimmy McNamara has been booted off some other newsgroups for the same thing he started up on
> > > > this one. There was a LOT of very sick threatening post made by Jimmy McNamara
> > > > Recumbents.com that had nothing to ddo with bikes and now he is locked out of that forum
> > > >
> > > > All I can say Iliad is lock your gas gap, never give this McNamara any personal information
> > > > and next time a Ed Gin and Jimmy McNamara feud starts up you can be assured that it will be
> > > > Jimmy linseed oil McNamara will be making the first post becuase of his pathetic criminal
> > > > lifestyle with nothing better to do.
> > > >
> > > > Von Diesel
> > > >
> > > > Touché... Now, can we put it rest?
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > >--------------------------<
> > > > Posted via cyclingforums.com http://www.cyclingforums.com
The TRUTH? Ed you don't know the meaning of the word. To you, truth is like modeling clay ...
something that you can twist, distort and into whatever form that suits you regardless of how
little it resembles itself anymore. Truth is truth. It need not be ADDED, so as far as "Ed adds
the truth...
Ed adds the truth, Von Diesl, mjrides are not Ed Gin.
... B.S. They are and you know it. I didn't say "Von Diesl" though.
I said "Von Diesel". Trying to be clever again? Don't hurt yourself.
Oops, I forgot to include "forestglen". Yep ... he's Ed Gin too.
Ed adds the truth - by your own admission, you were BOOTED OFF the HPV list serve.
... By my own admission, I wasn't BOOTED OFF, but was TEMPORARILY SUSPENDED from posting on the PHV
, as were you, but my posting status was restored long before yours was because you made the initial
inflammatory "off-topic" post. By the was it is "listserv" (a single word without the "e").
Ed adds the truth - Recumbents.com host a forum where you are BANNED for off topic posts!
http://www.recumbents.com/monkeyisland/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=3
... Then, Recumbents.com is a WEBSITE after all. It just happens to host a number of forums. On
Monkey Island, it appears that I wasn't banned so much as my posts are quickly removed by none other
than the new moderator (read dictator) ... Ed Gin. Off-topic posts you say? Don't make me laugh.
Monkey Island is a forum where off-topic posts abound. Oh sure there is hollow rhetoric espoused
regarding it being an unmoderated forum where members, some of whom were banned from BROL, can say
what they please, but this is obviously untrue if my posts are removed or I have been banned as you
have alleged.
Ed adds the truth - And Jimmy, BROL is at: http://pub152.ezboard.com/bbentrideronline This site has
nothing to do with "www.recumbeneets.com" (your spelling is atrocious)! I'm glad you are registered
at BROL, let's just see how well you contribute to the board with ON TOPIC material.
... That was simply a keyboard slip, but I see that you took the liberty of adding an additiona; "e"
to make my "misspelling" appear even more "atrocious". I find your ridiculing my spelling to be
amusing coming from someon who commonly misspells words ... "prowlness" instead of "prowess" ...
"list serve" instead of "listserv", for example. You should master the English language before
assuming the role of critic; don't you agree? You have yet to learn the proper use of the word
"whom", your sentence structure is deplorable, your grammatical errors are abundant and yet you
consider yourself qualified to home school your children. As concerns where BROL is at, I know. I
had to register ... remember? Nonetheless, without going into detail, suffice it to say that BROL
can be linked to in more than one way. I just happened to have provided an alternative method, so
what's you point? For instance this is a valid link: http://www.recumbents.com/brol_webboard.htm. So
much for your meager attempt at sarcasm.
Ed adds the truth - by your own admission you are booted off a recumbent Racing Forum:
http://www.recumbents.com/monkeyisland/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=3
... I should proof read more carefully, I suppose. I make no such admission. I meant to say ... "If
I was "booted off" that forum (Monkey Island), I would consider that to be a badge of honor." By the
way, there is a big difference between being banned (banished) and being censored by the moderator
who just happens to be the ever so "fair and impartial" Ed Gin. Can you discern the not so sublte
difference between banishment and censorship or, like so many other concepts, does that also exceed
your grasp?
> As concerns posting first, I DIDN'T ... Ed didn't ... Von Diesel did, but wait a minute ... Von
> Diesel is one of Ed's many
> pseudonyms, so you be the judge who posted first.
Ed adds the truth - Jimmy posted his OFF TOPIC venom at Monkey Island weeks ago FIRST, Von Diesel
(not Ed) replied, and Jimmy was banned soon thereafter.
... I was refering to here, on this newsgroup, dullard. My recent post at Monkey Island addressed a
completely different issue altogether. It was about a WORM. I've tried to explain all of that to
you, but you just don't get it. You ported that discussion over to this newsgroup just like you
ported our previous newsgroup argument over to the HPV list, so don't try to pin this one on me.
Then, in a discussion between Ed - Von Diesel - Gin and Ed - forestglen - Gin, you launched the
diesel thread. Readers, take particular note of what follows then Von Diesel and forestglen
usernames. Look what is contained in parenthesis. Identical aren't they? Coincidence? I think not!
Now, note the post times ... just a few minutes apart, aren't they? I takes hours, not minutes for a
posting to appear. Cunsequently, it is reasonable to assume that one and the same person made these
postings under the pretence of assumed pseudonyms. Care to guess who? Here's a hint ... Ed - not so
slick - Gin.
> 5. I did once and only once post a single private email, not of Ed's, but of another in response
> to hate mail. I did so because I was unable to respond privately because I was placed in that
> person's email kill file.
The truth - when placed in a kill file, get a life and move on, like I did for years with you!
... The truth was as stated in #5 above. You never moved on anymore than I did and you know it. You
just hel your tounge for .
> Ed just how different is the posting publicly of something that was entrusted to you in
> confidence?
NOW HERE IS THE REAL ISSUE AT HAND, WHAT WAS THAT YOU "ENTRUSTED ME WITH?" COULD THAT BE POURING
LINSEED OIL IN THE GAS TANK OF YOUR NEIGHBOR'S CATERING TRUCK? IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE REFERRING TO?
PLEASE ENLIGHTEN ME, JIMMY? Remember how I warned of your stupid decision to brag about it to many
neighbors, (Bob), friends (Jerry), your spouse and family members?
... We've been over this countless times and I have concluded that you are beyond enlightenment. By
the way, you should get that CAPS LOCK key fixed. It appears to be STUCK.
The truth - your letter arrived the holiday season with no postmark, but I recognized the writing
style and disposed of it pronto. My assumption is it was hand delivered.
... You assumed incorrectly. Allow me to refresh you memory. The letter arrived in a Christmas card
with no return address, but the envelope was stamped. If it was not postmarked, that's an issue for
you to take up with the post office ... not me.
The truth - 5 years ago, I parted company and ignored all your posts publicly, kill filed your
email, and tolerated your incessant ********. April 17th, 2003 was when I posted my message about
how hateful you are. Note this is a period of MANY YEARS ignoring you. Since then your constant
whining is well known all over the net as well as your association with linseed oil.
... You have the audacity to speak of hatred ... you who sent emails to Gary Brown making fun of his
disability. Now that is what I call hateful. What do you call it?
The truth - rules are never abided by criminals pouring linseed oil in gas tanks.
... You never have been known to play by the rules and you are merely trying to deflect attention
form that fact.
The truth - have you considered your acquaintances telling me?
... The few that are even aware are not color blind and are loyal to me, but nice try.
> You are treading on some rather incriminating territory here ... time to set up my
> videocam, again.
The truth - Incriminating huh, HOW ABOUT IT JIMMY, DID YOU POUR LINSEED OIL IN YOUR NEIGHBORS
CATERING TRUCK. HE LIVES ON THE 4800 BLOCK OF CATALPA AVE., CHICAGO, ILLINOIS. 60630, THE HOUSE THAT
HAS THE BIG EVERGREEN TREE YOU POURED POISON ON TO KILL IT BUT FAILED?
... I see that you are still having a problem with that STICKING CAPS LOCK key.
The truth - then give it up and take the losses!
... I will give it up if and when you will. In a previous post you wrote "Differences set aside,
personally I do not want any harm to come to you or your spouse nor any other human being ever.
Continuing to email, commenting on my future posts and displaying your opinion via other venues
regarding Ed Gin is your choice, do what you must. I'm finished with this saga in my life." You're a
real man of your word aren't you ED? How things have changed in only 6 months time.
The truth - the ONLY LOON is you JIMMY, linseed oil does not belong in gas tanks as your military
manual instructs. And in the end you better have your video camera on as MR. 4800 block of Catalpa
Ave. is going to GET EVEN with you.
... I have a video camera, but no military manuals.
Jim McNamara
Ed Gin & Shirleen Kajiwara <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> Jim McNamara wrote:
>
> > Hi ... Von Diesel, mjrides, Ed Gin ... all one an the same
>
> Ed adds the truth, Von Diesl, mjrides are not Ed Gin.
>
> > 1. Ed, I have never been booted of a single newsgroup. Prove otherwise. Truth be told, you and
> > I were both temporarily unable to post on the HPV List <snipped to save space>
>
> Ed adds the truth - by your own admission, you were BOOTED OFF the HPV list serve.
>
> > As concerns Recumbents.com, it's a website ... not a forum.
>
> Ed adds the truth - Recumbents.com host a forum where you are BANNED for off topic posts!
> http://www.recumbents.com/monkeyisland/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=3
>
> > I don't recall even being registered there, but I certainly can post there now as the following
> > attests.
>
> Ed adds the truth - I'm sure hoping you're not referring to recumbents.com/monkey island?
>
> > BentRider Online
> > > General Discussion
> > > Test ... Ignore
> > Just to see if this works ... Jim McNamara
> >
> > Granted, during the registration process I slipped on the keyboard so my username is "iimymac"
> > instead of "jimmymac", but I can and did post as anyone can verify at www.recumbenets.com (BROL
> > Forum).
>
> Ed adds the truth - And Jimmy, BROL is at: http://pub152.ezboard.com/bbentrideronline This site
> has nothing to do with "www.recumbeneets.com" (your spelling is atrocious)! I'm glad you are
> registered at BROL, let's just see how well you contribute to the board with ON TOPIC material.
>
> > <snipped> I was "booted off" that forum, I would consider that to be a badge of honor. So, just
> > what newsgroup of forum is it that have I allegedly been booted off or locked out of?
>
> Ed adds the truth - by your own admission you are booted off a recumbent Racing Forum:
> http://www.recumbents.com/monkeyisland/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=3
>
> > As concerns posting first, I DIDN'T ... Ed didn't ... Von Diesel did, but wait a minute ... Von
> > Diesel is one of Ed's many
> > pseudonyms, so you be the judge who posted first.
>
> Ed adds the truth - Jimmy posted his OFF TOPIC venom at Monkey Island weeks ago FIRST, Von Diesel
> (not Ed) replied, and Jimmy was banned soon thereafter.
>
> > 5. I did once and only once post a single private email, not of Ed's, but of another in
> > response to hate mail. I did so because I was unable to respond privately because I was
> > placed in this person's email kill file.
>
> The truth - when placed in a kill file, get a life and move on, like I did for years with you!
>
> > Ed just how different is the posting publicly of something that was entrusted to you in
> > confidence?
>
> NOW HERE IS THE REAL ISSUE AT HAND, WHAT WAS THAT YOU "ENTRUSTED ME WITH?" COULD THAT BE POURING
> LINSEED OIL IN THE GAS TANK OF YOUR NEIGHBOR'S CATERING TRUCK? IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE REFERRING TO?
> PLEASE ENLIGHTEN ME, JIMMY? Remember how I warned of your stupid decision to brag about it to many
> neighbors, (Bob), friends (Jerry), your spouse and family members?
>
> > 6. I have never visited your house Ed and I never placed a letter in your mailbox.
>
> The truth - your letter arrived the holiday season with no postmark, but I recognized the writing
> style and disposed of it pronto. My assumption is it was hand delivered.
>
> > 7. Your many posts as you, as Von Diesel, as mjrides, etc. stand in evidence that you didn't
> > let go 5 years ago as claimed, so why pretend otherwise?
>
> The truth - 5 years ago, I parted company and ignored all your posts publicly, kill filed your
> email, and tolerated your incessant ********. April 17th, 2003 was when I posted my message about
> how hateful you are. Note this is a period of MANY YEARS ignoring you. Since then your constant
> whining is well known all over the net as well as your association with linseed oil.
>
> > 8. Ed, you have failed to respond to many a challenge and/or question, so shy should I feel
> > obligated to accommodate your demands? You never have been know to play by the same set of
> > rules.
>
> The truth - rules are never abided by criminals pouring linseed oil in gas tanks.
>
> > 9. My car cover is not tan, but gray. Maybe it just looks tan when you are skulking about in
> > the dark. The only way that you would have even known that my car is covered is if you
> > dropped by my hous in the middle of the night.
>
> The truth - have you considered your acquaintances telling me?
>
> > You are treading on some rather incriminating territory here ... time to set up my videocam,
> > again.
>
> The truth - Incriminating huh, HOW ABOUT IT JIMMY, DID YOU POUR LINSEED OIL IN YOUR NEIGHBORS
> CATERING TRUCK. HE LIVES ON THE 4800 BLOCK OF CATALPA AVE., CHICAGO, ILLINOIS. 60630, THE HOUSE
> THAT HAS THE BIG EVERGREEN TREE YOU POURED POISON ON TO KILL IT BUT FAILED?
>
> > 10. Look, I was willing to let this all go with my previous post, but Ed you just had to
> > introduce a few more lies did't you? The fact is that much of this is stale, recycled and
> > regurgitated rubbish to which I already responded previously.
>
> The truth - then give it up and take the losses!
>
> > Most who have followed this thread have probably already decided that the antagonists are both
> > loons and have stopped reading altogether, having long since been bored to tears by it all
> > although some are probably rather entertained. Regardless, in the greater scheme of things, it
> > matters not, just like you matter not.
> >
> > Jim McNamara
>
> The truth - the ONLY LOON is you JIMMY, linseed oil does not belong in gas tanks as your military
> manual instructs. And in the end you better have your video camera on as MR. 4800 block of Catalpa
> Ave. is going to GET EVEN with you.
>
> Ed Gin
>
> >
> > Ed Gin & Shirleen Kajiwara <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:<[email protected]>...
> >
> > > Von Diesel,
> > >
> > > You are correct Jimmy already posted on another board he will cease to respond, NOT as
> > > demonstrated on this thread. Matter of fact 5 years ago he e-mail me that "I am not in HIS
> > > UNIVERSE" anymore however he continually harassed me with not only hate e-mail over a period
> > > of years, which were all "kill filed," but objected to many of my posts on the hpv server
> > > publicly whereby he received angry posts for his venom, he then posted private email to the
> > > board, a breach of net etiquette. He even sought correspondence by dropping over my house and
> > > leaving a letter in my mailbox, with no postmark, and once he put a note in a zip locked bag
> > > on my windshield. He is a real nut. He has always been a reactionary type of character
> > > objecting to anything I post publicly whether on ARBR, hpvlistserve, recumbents.com, or even
> > > my own web site. It all stems from the fact that I terminated our friendship and chose to part
> > > company from him. As you stated he was booted from recumbents.com for his hateful messages and
> > > venom which has nothing to do with on topic discussions.
> > >
> > > I will put $$$ he will post something to address me in the future. He can't let go as I have 5
> > > years ago. The recent rash of posts regarding LINSEED OIL and his involvement simply shows the
> > > public what kind of character this Jimmy McNamara is, plain and simple.
> > >
> > > He has never denied the accusation......because it is the truth!
> > >
> > > I'm done with the issue, his neighbor knows about the truth, even his tan car cover can't
> > > protect his vehicle parked in the driveway. This is my FINAL WORD for now! ....... until he
> > > spews his venom again to start it up. He just doesn't know when to stop and cut his losses.
> > >
> > > Ed Gin
> > >
> > >
> > > Von Diesel wrote:
> > >
> > > > No Iliad, It is doubtful this business will ever go away. This Jimmy McNamara character os a
> > > > very nasty troublemaker. The guy just posted he has "unfinshed business" left with Ed Gin.
> > > >
> > > > Jimmy McNamara has been booted off some other newsgroups for the same thing he started up on
> > > > this one. There was a LOT of very sick threatening post made by Jimmy McNamara
> > > > Recumbents.com that had nothing to ddo with bikes and now he is locked out of that forum
> > > >
> > > > All I can say Iliad is lock your gas gap, never give this McNamara any personal information
> > > > and next time a Ed Gin and Jimmy McNamara feud starts up you can be assured that it will be
> > > > Jimmy linseed oil McNamara will be making the first post becuase of his pathetic criminal
> > > > lifestyle with nothing better to do.
> > > >
> > > > Von Diesel
> > > >
> > > > Touché... Now, can we put it rest?
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > >--------------------------<
> > > > Posted via cyclingforums.com http://www.cyclingforums.com
No need for a retraction here. There are many reasons your posts are no longer tolerated at Reucmbents.com and the virus upload was the last straw.
Will you ever realize that the personal feuds you have with members of the HPV community benefit no one?
None of your posts were ever edited or censored at Recumbents.com. They have been removed as they were offensive, insulting and criminal to say the least. The moderators at that site will never allow you to post there again PERIOD!
No one at Recumbents.com will ever have to listen to your criminal linseed oil escapades or non recumbent related vicious personal attacks anymore.
ModRatorMan
be man enough to write a retraction.
Of course, silence is always an option, but silence is also tantamount to an admission.
Jim McNamara
Will you ever realize that the personal feuds you have with members of the HPV community benefit no one?
None of your posts were ever edited or censored at Recumbents.com. They have been removed as they were offensive, insulting and criminal to say the least. The moderators at that site will never allow you to post there again PERIOD!
No one at Recumbents.com will ever have to listen to your criminal linseed oil escapades or non recumbent related vicious personal attacks anymore.
ModRatorMan
be man enough to write a retraction.
Of course, silence is always an option, but silence is also tantamount to an admission.
Jim McNamara
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Bentheadswb
Guest
>It must be sad to live like him.
True, MJ The saddest part is to get into a flame war on the interenet in a recumbent newsgroup. The
saddest part is to be so sensitive to words by people you will never meet, never know or even know
if they ride a recumbent. It can be entertaining to get people wound up over nothing, but with some
of the people on this NG... it is far too easy to do. The best part is the header calls them an
infinite amount of Monkeys and they keep the war going. Taking the internet too seriously indicates
the utter lack of a real life. That is sad...
John H N TX
True, MJ The saddest part is to get into a flame war on the interenet in a recumbent newsgroup. The
saddest part is to be so sensitive to words by people you will never meet, never know or even know
if they ride a recumbent. It can be entertaining to get people wound up over nothing, but with some
of the people on this NG... it is far too easy to do. The best part is the header calls them an
infinite amount of Monkeys and they keep the war going. Taking the internet too seriously indicates
the utter lack of a real life. That is sad...
John H N TX
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Tom Sherman
Guest
BentHeadSWB wrote:
>
> >It must be sad to live like him.
>
> True, MJ The saddest part is to get into a flame war on the interenet in a recumbent newsgroup.
> The saddest part is to be so sensitive to words by people you will never meet, never know or even
> know if they ride a recumbent....
In this case, Ed Gin is definitely a real person (as quite a few people on a.r.b.r. can verify)
and the preponderance of the evidence indicates that Jim McNamara is also a real person. [1] So,
unlike most [2] of the other flame wars on a.r.b.r., this one is an existing conflict being
carried out on a.r.b.r.
> It can be entertaining to get people wound up over nothing,...
True.
[1] I put it this way, since I have personal knowledge of Ed Gin's existence, while I am relying on
the statements of others about Jim McNamara's existence.
[2] I recall another one between certain members of the highracer and lowracer crowds. In that case,
I have seen the antagonists in the same location at the same time.
Tom Sherman - Near the confluence of the Mississippi and Rock Rivers
>
> >It must be sad to live like him.
>
> True, MJ The saddest part is to get into a flame war on the interenet in a recumbent newsgroup.
> The saddest part is to be so sensitive to words by people you will never meet, never know or even
> know if they ride a recumbent....
In this case, Ed Gin is definitely a real person (as quite a few people on a.r.b.r. can verify)
and the preponderance of the evidence indicates that Jim McNamara is also a real person. [1] So,
unlike most [2] of the other flame wars on a.r.b.r., this one is an existing conflict being
carried out on a.r.b.r.
> It can be entertaining to get people wound up over nothing,...
True.
[1] I put it this way, since I have personal knowledge of Ed Gin's existence, while I am relying on
the statements of others about Jim McNamara's existence.
[2] I recall another one between certain members of the highracer and lowracer crowds. In that case,
I have seen the antagonists in the same location at the same time.
Tom Sherman - Near the confluence of the Mississippi and Rock Rivers
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Christopher Jor
Guest
"Mikael Seierup" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> Mikael add both to his killfile... Which part of "Take it somewhere else" did you two not
> understand?
Sounds like a California governer recall, or a president Bush recall. Yap, yap, yap- nothing gets
done, no questions answered, no reasoning. Hello, wall...
I am beginning to understand why part of the world is laughing at U.S. politics!
Chris Jordan Santa Cruz, CA.
news:<[email protected]>...
> Mikael add both to his killfile... Which part of "Take it somewhere else" did you two not
> understand?
Sounds like a California governer recall, or a president Bush recall. Yap, yap, yap- nothing gets
done, no questions answered, no reasoning. Hello, wall...
I am beginning to understand why part of the world is laughing at U.S. politics!
Chris Jordan Santa Cruz, CA.
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A&B
Guest
So why don't one or the other of these pussies settle it face to face? Oh. Just re-read the first
sentence. Never mind. bill, in Ala somebody's teeth would be in their back pocket by now, g
Tom Sherman wrote:
> [2] I recall another one between certain members of the highracer and lowracer crowds. In that
> case, I have seen the antagonists in the same location at the same time.
>
> Tom Sherman - Near the confluence of the Mississippi and Rock Rivers
sentence. Never mind. bill, in Ala somebody's teeth would be in their back pocket by now, g
Tom Sherman wrote:
> [2] I recall another one between certain members of the highracer and lowracer crowds. In that
> case, I have seen the antagonists in the same location at the same time.
>
> Tom Sherman - Near the confluence of the Mississippi and Rock Rivers
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