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This is about as exciting as watching those two self proclaimed experts beclowning themselves arguing about carbon wheels over the last several years ha ha ha!
I came across a rider the other day and had a bit of a chat. I noticed he's riding a high end expensive carbon bike but with shallow alloy rims. Very good quality expensive rim nevertheless but looks out of place on a late model expensive bike. It was an early morning ride so there's only little wind, no forecast of strong winds either so there's no reason to swap to shallow profile rims.
I didn't asked him about the rim and I have this forum to thank for. Else, our chat could have turned ugly!
I didn't asked him about the rim and I have this forum to thank for. Else, our chat could have turned ugly!
Yeah, their argument continuing seamlessly after a gap of several years is on a whole new level of stupendousness. It's next level sh*t!!
Glad things like these still happens in our otherwise extremely boresome reality.
I can't help but laugh at the wheel debate meaningless drivel. Guys with more money than ability most of them.
Reminds me of a guy years back. Remember, I'm a RECREATIONAL cyclist just having fun. One guy on the forum, big shot who completed RACE ACROSS AMERICA about 5 times signed up to do the same timed event as I. 100 miles with 10,000 ft of gain.
He actually laughed at my bike saying there's no way I'd keep up with him and his $8,000 Colnago with special climbing gears, descending gears and light carbon wheels.
My bike was $1,000, and I built my own wheels. Velocity Deep V considered heavy tank wheels.
He really talked trash on cycling forums challenging me and saying my bike trail training habits sucked. I guess he didn't realize I was training up in the mountains over 6 months.
Come event day I smoked his RACE ACROSS AMERICA ASS by over an hour ha ha ha. Open start window of 2 hours so I caught him 50 miles up the climb after starting an hour later.
So that gave me time to stop on the final climb, let him pass while I gave him a little wave and a smile. Then caught him and passed him again to rub it in ha ha ha.
Being on the forums for 20 years, I've met a ton of forum talkers. Ton of racers with tons of advice on the latest and greatest equipment and 95% of them can't keep up with me and my recreational fun time style.
They can have all the sheot talk about the good stuff that's going to make them faster. I'll stick with reality and training.
Reminds me of a guy years back. Remember, I'm a RECREATIONAL cyclist just having fun. One guy on the forum, big shot who completed RACE ACROSS AMERICA about 5 times signed up to do the same timed event as I. 100 miles with 10,000 ft of gain.
He actually laughed at my bike saying there's no way I'd keep up with him and his $8,000 Colnago with special climbing gears, descending gears and light carbon wheels.
My bike was $1,000, and I built my own wheels. Velocity Deep V considered heavy tank wheels.
He really talked trash on cycling forums challenging me and saying my bike trail training habits sucked. I guess he didn't realize I was training up in the mountains over 6 months.
Come event day I smoked his RACE ACROSS AMERICA ASS by over an hour ha ha ha. Open start window of 2 hours so I caught him 50 miles up the climb after starting an hour later.
So that gave me time to stop on the final climb, let him pass while I gave him a little wave and a smile. Then caught him and passed him again to rub it in ha ha ha.
Being on the forums for 20 years, I've met a ton of forum talkers. Ton of racers with tons of advice on the latest and greatest equipment and 95% of them can't keep up with me and my recreational fun time style.
They can have all the sheot talk about the good stuff that's going to make them faster. I'll stick with reality and training.
Oh yeah, I've had know it all guys come from different states to tide with us. Guys that were giving me advice on how to be a stronger rider that ended up not being able to keep up with my wife ha ha ha. And she doesn't ride carbon rims either!
The bike's aero mattered the least in speed. In my experience, it seems your riding position, clothes, tires, and of course, training have bigger impact on speed.
The bike + accessory weight also mattered little on climbs unless you weighed so little like me.
Even the benefit of wide range gear ratio isn't guaranteed. You can train yourself to get better at grinding bigger gears or better yet, train yourself to become good at both grinding and spinning. During Eddy Merckx's time, riders were constrained to a set of relatively big gears even on a big climb. Even so, Eddy was only 1-2 kph slower in average speed than the best of modern pros even if Eddy didn't get much shelter from team mates, inferior aero, and obviously low tech. So it's really not the bike. Unless the bike you ride have intentionally slow setup, full fenders, full racks, baskets on each side, long mud flaps, solid tires, you get the idea.
So the last thing I'm going to figure out somebody's speed is looking at their bikes or even equipment, even if using clipless or flats. There's no way to know until the race is on!
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