John Kerry

[Dan Spisak]

[email protected] wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 14:49:40 +0200, "trg"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>Is at the tour. Being interviewed by France television.
>>
>
>
> http://img315.imageshack.us/img315/8900/capttdf10207231423cyclingtourd1.jpg
A good picture except for the loser in the middle. But that is what he
was in the campaign: in the middle. He had no plan for Iraq or anything
else. All he did was critize - just another cheap politician.

 

[[email protected]]

On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 14:49:40 +0200, "trg"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Is at the tour. Being interviewed by France television.
>

http://img315.imageshack.us/img315/8900/capttdf10207231423cyclingtourd1.jpg

 

[PanFan]

"dwjones45" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> why is everyone so down on kerry and making a big issue of him being
> interviewed this morning on oln? who cares? by the way kerry is by far
> much better than that piece of **** and the offical asshole licker of
> the christian right and saudi royal family that we have in the white
> house. bush's will clearly go down as the worst president in modern
> times once his term is up. way to go dubya.
>

Yes, finally someone with a brain speaks the truth!

Here's what the Republican Dumbasses are doing to America:

- Since the Iraq war started, the war has cost America about $280
billion. This is all funded with borrowing. We are LOSING $300 mil per
day on this war.

- Since the Iraq war started, the price of oil has jumped from $30 per
barrel to roughly $58 per barrel. The Saudis produce about 12 million
barrels per day. The Saudis are MAKING $336 million more per day since
the war began.

America fights the war and foots the bill. The Saudis are raking in the
bucks. Do you see anything wrong here?

Thanks to Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, Wolfowitz, etc. for committing
the United States to the biggest STRATEGIC BLUNDER of American history.
Our kids will be paying for this mess for years!

 

[John Forrest Tomlinson]

On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 16:07:14 -0700, Dan Spisak <[email protected]>
wrote:


>> http://img315.imageshack.us/img315/8900/capttdf10207231423cyclingtourd1.jpg
>A good picture except for the loser in the middle. But that is what he
>was in the campaign: in the middle. He had no plan for Iraq or anything
>else. All he did was critize -

Is it better to lead us into a messed up war, waste tons of money and
lives, and increase insecurity, have a "vision" and refuse to admit
mistakes, or to have no plan, criticize the screw-up and admit things
are messed up and hard to deal with? I'd go for the latter every time
myself. Truth is better than lies, always.

JT

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What is better, changing the rear wheel in an ITT, or switching bikes?
If JFK had been following Rassmussen like I suggested, he would
have realised that the answer is to decide on one or the other
and not change your mind in the middle.

-ilan

John Forrest Tomlinson a écrit :
> On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 16:07:14 -0700, Dan Spisak <[email protected]>
> wrote:
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> >> http://img315.imageshack.us/img315/8900/capttdf10207231423cyclingtourd1.jpg
> >A good picture except for the loser in the middle. But that is what he
> >was in the campaign: in the middle. He had no plan for Iraq or anything
> >else. All he did was critize -
>
> Is it better to lead us into a messed up war, waste tons of money and
> lives, and increase insecurity, have a "vision" and refuse to admit
> mistakes, or to have no plan, criticize the screw-up and admit things
> are messed up and hard to deal with? I'd go for the latter every time
> myself. Truth is better than lies, always.
>
> JT
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[Richard Adams]

PanFan wrote:

> "dwjones45" <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>
>>why is everyone so down on kerry and making a big issue of him being
>>interviewed this morning on oln? who cares? by the way kerry is by far
>>much better than that piece of **** and the offical asshole licker of
>>the christian right and saudi royal family that we have in the white
>>house. bush's will clearly go down as the worst president in modern
>>times once his term is up. way to go dubya.
>>
>
>
> Yes, finally someone with a brain speaks the truth!
>
> Here's what the Republican Dumbasses are doing to America:
>
> - Since the Iraq war started, the war has cost America about $280
> billion. This is all funded with borrowing. We are LOSING $300 mil per
> day on this war.
>
> - Since the Iraq war started, the price of oil has jumped from $30 per
> barrel to roughly $58 per barrel. The Saudis produce about 12 million
> barrels per day. The Saudis are MAKING $336 million more per day since
> the war began.
>
> America fights the war and foots the bill. The Saudis are raking in the
> bucks. Do you see anything wrong here?
>
> Thanks to Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, Wolfowitz, etc. for committing
> the United States to the biggest STRATEGIC BLUNDER of American history.
> Our kids will be paying for this mess for years!

You left out that current debt is being underwritten by chinese bond
purchasers. Europe and Japan have run out of money to lend the USA.

 

[k.papai]

R U talkin' about Rabobank and their 3 Stooges?

I come here for sport not politic. You are usually the first one to
rag on folks for off topic too.

-Ken

 

[Stewart Fleming]

PanFan wrote:
> - Since the Iraq war started, the price of oil has jumped from $30 per
> barrel to roughly $58 per barrel. The Saudis produce about 12 million
> barrels per day. The Saudis are MAKING $336 million more per day since
> the war began.

Did you hear the conspiracy theory that Bush was actually a Saudi agent?

 

[[email protected]]

gwhite wrote:
>
> Anyone who says the government isn't good at anything is wrong. It is
> really good at destruction -- look at what Lincoln accomplished in such
> a short span. The unmatched destructive efficiency of government is why
> it is tasked with national defense. LOL

I wish this statement were true. Then the jackass rednecked bigots who
vote Republican would still illiterate by candlelight, and shitting in
outhouses.

 

[Mike2]

[email protected] wrote in news:1122184847.050325.100710
@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
>
> I wish this statement were true. Then the jackass rednecked bigots who
> vote Republican would still illiterate by candlelight, and shitting in
> outhouses.
>
>

Yes, wonderfully coherent, that last bit.

'Atta way to stay on topic (last I checked it was cycling, but who's to say
for sure?).

 

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matabala wrote:

> Don't the stupid French know Kerry LOST the election? Very strange choice
> of celebrity-of-the-day to accompany the race director on LA's big day.

Apparently Kerry is there at LA's invitation. Crow worked for Kerry in
2004 and Armstrong and Crow were in Boston for the post-election party.

Maybe Armstrong has figured out that Bush is a sociopath who uses him
to further his own political objectives, that Bush got us involved in a
stupid war whose cost in American lives, money and international
influence is almost beyond conprehension, and that the Republican Party
no longer represents individualism but instead stands for borrowing
money from the Chinese to wage a wasteful war and finance taxcuts and
war profiteering for Bush's cronies, for wasted US military power, for
rightwing fundamentalism shoved down your throat, and for a gang of
creeps that are willing to do anything, no matter how treasonous, in
their pursuit of power.

 

[RonSonic]

On 23 Jul 2005 23:00:47 -0700, [email protected] wrote:

>
>
>gwhite wrote:
>>
>> Anyone who says the government isn't good at anything is wrong. It is
>> really good at destruction -- look at what Lincoln accomplished in such
>> a short span. The unmatched destructive efficiency of government is why
>> it is tasked with national defense. LOL
>
>I wish this statement were true. Then the jackass rednecked bigots who
>vote Republican would still illiterate by candlelight, and shitting in
>outhouses.

Republicans can compose a coherent sentence.

Ron

 

[Richard Adams]

[email protected] wrote:

> matabala wrote:
>
>
>>Don't the stupid French know Kerry LOST the election? Very strange choice
>>of celebrity-of-the-day to accompany the race director on LA's big day.
>
>
> Apparently Kerry is there at LA's invitation. Crow worked for Kerry in
> 2004 and Armstrong and Crow were in Boston for the post-election party.
>
> Maybe Armstrong has figured out that Bush is a sociopath who uses him
> to further his own political objectives, that Bush got us involved in a
> stupid war whose cost in American lives, money and international
> influence is almost beyond conprehension, and that the Republican Party
> no longer represents individualism but instead stands for borrowing
> money from the Chinese to wage a wasteful war and finance taxcuts and
> war profiteering for Bush's cronies, for wasted US military power, for
> rightwing fundamentalism shoved down your throat, and for a gang of
> creeps that are willing to do anything, no matter how treasonous, in
> their pursuit of power.
>

Lance, at least on one occasion remarked that he disagrees with Bush on
many political matters, being somewhat left of center.

He considers Bush a friend, like many of us have friends of differing
political views.

 

[Richard Adams]

RonSonic wrote:

> On 23 Jul 2005 23:00:47 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>
>
>>
>>gwhite wrote:
>>
>>>Anyone who says the government isn't good at anything is wrong. It is
>>>really good at destruction -- look at what Lincoln accomplished in such
>>>a short span. The unmatched destructive efficiency of government is why
>>>it is tasked with national defense. LOL
>>
>>I wish this statement were true. Then the jackass rednecked bigots who
>>vote Republican would still illiterate by candlelight, and shitting in
>>outhouses.
>
>
> Republicans can compose a coherent sentence.

Then what does that say about the Bush? He's more error prone than Quayle.

 

[Steven Bornfeld]

gwhite wrote:
>
> Michael 182 wrote:
>
>>"dwjones45" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>
>>
>>>bush's will clearly go down as the worst president in modern times once
>>>his term is up. way to go dubya.
>>
>>Why just modern times? I think he is way out in front as the worst of all
>>time.
>
>
> FDR-1 (Hoover) and FDR-2 (FDR) were probably the worst of the past
> century. Well maybe Wilson -- he was really horrible. There weren't
> any above average presidents in the past century.

Is this the reverse Lake Wobegone effect?

Steve

>
> Warmonger Lincoln is the worst of all time. Rutherfraud Hayes always
> deserves mention.
>
> Anyone who says the government isn't good at anything is wrong. It is
> really good at destruction -- look at what Lincoln accomplished in such
> a short span. The unmatched destructive efficiency of government is why
> it is tasked with national defense. LOL


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[Steven Bornfeld]

k.papai wrote:
> R U talkin' about Rabobank and their 3 Stooges?
>
> I come here for sport not politic. You are usually the first one to
> rag on folks for off topic too.
>
> -Ken

Only when it's slightly off-topic, like bike.marketplace-type stuff.

Steve

>


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[Steven Bornfeld]

[email protected] wrote:
> matabala wrote:
>
>
>>Don't the stupid French know Kerry LOST the election? Very strange choice
>>of celebrity-of-the-day to accompany the race director on LA's big day.
>
>
> Apparently Kerry is there at LA's invitation. Crow worked for Kerry in
> 2004 and Armstrong and Crow were in Boston for the post-election party.
>
> Maybe Armstrong has figured out that Bush is a sociopath who uses him
> to further his own political objectives, that Bush got us involved in a
> stupid war whose cost in American lives, money and international
> influence is almost beyond conprehension, and that the Republican Party
> no longer represents individualism but instead stands for borrowing
> money from the Chinese to wage a wasteful war and finance taxcuts and
> war profiteering for Bush's cronies, for wasted US military power, for
> rightwing fundamentalism shoved down your throat, and for a gang of
> creeps that are willing to do anything, no matter how treasonous, in
> their pursuit of power.


Armstrong is canny enough to not wear his political heart on his
sleeve. Somehow, I think if he were a strong Bush supporter, we'd have
heard something.

Steve

>


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[gwhite]

John Forrest Tomlinson wrote:
>

> Truth is better than lies, always.

It is true that the republican party is composed much too highly of
double-talking devils.

The criticism you've mentioned is the end of what the democratic party
can rightly say. The american left is intellectually bankrupt and has
been so for over a century. All they got is how bad "the right" is (and
it is bad). It is pathetic. They have no ideas worth mentioning.

No ideas, no coherancy, no deep consistancy, and a bunch of know
nuthin's -- that is the democratic party. There is no important
difference between the republicans and democrats. The 2 major parties
have both become statist in their ideologies.

In short, Kerry is a statist suckwad, and so is Bush.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0155061216/


The entire debate between republican and democrat comes down to which is
worse, and which will do the least damage. Pathetic.

 

[gwhite]

Steven Bornfeld wrote:
>

> Is this the reverse Lake Wobegone effect?

Since I'm referring to the entire history, and not just the last century
when calling out average, no. Anyway, mediocrity is the rule, with a
few standouts either way. I'm saying all better-than-average presidents
held office before 1900.

As a side poli-note, here is Bush's last SoU address translated to
english for normal humans:

http://www.thornwalker.com/ditch/dtw_sotu_05.htm

 

[Tim Lines]

gwhite wrote:
>
> Dave Clary wrote:
>
>>On 23 Jul 2005 07:09:29 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>
>>>The dumbass was just on OLN too. That guy is the biggest dumbass Fred
>>>ever to be interviewed on OLN.
>>
>>I'm sure OLN loved it when he said he recorded their coverage so he could skip
>>the commercials!!
>
>
>
> Like most Demopublicans, Kerry is a Kommie at heart. Thus he hates
> "crass commercialism." The French probably love him.

Is there someone who really loves "crass commercialism"?