John Kerry



Tim Lines wrote:
>
> Is there someone who really loves "crass commercialism"?


Mrs. Kerry?
 
Dan Spisak wrote:
> A good picture except for the loser in the middle. But that is what he
> was in the campaign: in the middle. He had no plan for Iraq or anything
> else. All he did was critize - just another cheap politician.


In retrospect, the election was decided in early 2003. Shrub created a
problem with no solution. With no viable alternative, 50.something% of
voters defaulted to the incumbent.

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--
Lynn Wallace http://www.xmission.com/~lawall

Conservative dictionary:
Judicial Activist: n. A judge who tends to rule against your wishes.
 
[email protected] wrote:
> Apparently Kerry is there at LA's invitation. Crow worked for Kerry in
> 2004 and Armstrong and Crow were in Boston for the post-election party.


Crow is a flaming libbie. I knew there was somthing I liked about her.
Something else, I mean.

> Maybe Armstrong has figured out that Bush is a sociopath who uses him
> to further his own political objectives,


Can't tell from Lance's comments, as far as I have seen. (Not sure I
agree with it either. I don't think Shrub is a sociopath.)

that Bush got us involved in a
> stupid war whose cost in American lives, money and international
> influence is almost beyond conprehension,


Likely (that Lance realizes this) if you do a lot of reading between the
lines of what he's said. His few comments about the war have been
non-committal.

and that the Republican Party
> no longer represents individualism but instead stands for borrowing
> money from the Chinese to wage a wasteful war and finance taxcuts and
> war profiteering for Bush's cronies, for wasted US military power, for
> rightwing fundamentalism shoved down your throat, and for a gang of
> creeps that are willing to do anything, no matter how treasonous, in
> their pursuit of power.


Have no clue what Lance thinks about this.

I have yet to find an intelligent AND informed person who voted for
Shrub. (And I live in Utah; the odds are there for such people to
exist.) As near as I can tell, you voted for Shrub only if you were:

stupid (including failure to think about your vote),
ill- or mis-informed,
a religious activist.

Add in the facts that Lance is at least fairly intelligent and clearly
agnostic, and I put the odds on him being at least a bit more of a Kerry
fan than Shrub. Sheryl Crow will push him further to the light side of
political ideology.

--
--
Lynn Wallace http://www.xmission.com/~lawall

Conservative dictionary:
Judicial Activist: n. A judge who tends to rule against your wishes.
 
"Raptor" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de news:
[email protected]...

> Likely (that Lance realizes this) if you do a lot of reading between the
> lines of what he's said. His few comments about the war have been
> non-committal.


No, pre-war he came out against the invasion. Maybe it was just a ploy to
get into Sheryl pants?
 
PanFan wrote:
>> - Since the Iraq war started, the price of oil has jumped from $30 per
>> barrel to roughly $58 per barrel. The Saudis produce about 12 million
>> barrels per day. The Saudis are MAKING $336 million more per day since
>> the war began.


Stewart Fleming wrote:
> Did you hear the conspiracy theory that Bush was actually a Saudi agent?


Rove must have started that theory too.
 
On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 23:35:59 -0600, Raptor <[email protected]>
wrote:

>[email protected] wrote:
>> Apparently Kerry is there at LA's invitation. Crow worked for Kerry in
>> 2004 and Armstrong and Crow were in Boston for the post-election party.

>
>Crow is a flaming libbie. I knew there was somthing I liked about her.
>Something else, I mean.
>
>> Maybe Armstrong has figured out that Bush is a sociopath who uses him
>> to further his own political objectives,

>
>Can't tell from Lance's comments, as far as I have seen. (Not sure I
>agree with it either. I don't think Shrub is a sociopath.)
>
>that Bush got us involved in a
>> stupid war whose cost in American lives, money and international
>> influence is almost beyond conprehension,

>
>Likely (that Lance realizes this) if you do a lot of reading between the
>lines of what he's said. His few comments about the war have been
>non-committal.
>
>and that the Republican Party
>> no longer represents individualism but instead stands for borrowing
>> money from the Chinese to wage a wasteful war and finance taxcuts and
>> war profiteering for Bush's cronies, for wasted US military power, for
>> rightwing fundamentalism shoved down your throat, and for a gang of
>> creeps that are willing to do anything, no matter how treasonous, in
>> their pursuit of power.

>
>Have no clue what Lance thinks about this.
>
>I have yet to find an intelligent AND informed person who voted for
>Shrub. (And I live in Utah; the odds are there for such people to
>exist.) As near as I can tell, you voted for Shrub only if you were:
>
>stupid (including failure to think about your vote),
>ill- or mis-informed,
>a religious activist.
>


It's such well informed opinions as these that account for great
success that the Democratic party has had in Congressional,
Senatorial, and Presidential elections recently.

Democrates need to come up with a little better slogan than "Vote for
Us or you must be miss-informed, religious bigot, moron!".
 
On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 23:35:59 -0600, Raptor <[email protected]>
wrote:

>[email protected] wrote:
>> Apparently Kerry is there at LA's invitation. Crow worked for Kerry in
>> 2004 and Armstrong and Crow were in Boston for the post-election party.

>
>Crow is a flaming libbie. I knew there was somthing I liked about her.
>Something else, I mean.
>
>> Maybe Armstrong has figured out that Bush is a sociopath who uses him
>> to further his own political objectives,

>
>Can't tell from Lance's comments, as far as I have seen. (Not sure I
>agree with it either. I don't think Shrub is a sociopath.)
>
>that Bush got us involved in a
>> stupid war whose cost in American lives, money and international
>> influence is almost beyond conprehension,

>
>Likely (that Lance realizes this) if you do a lot of reading between the
>lines of what he's said. His few comments about the war have been
>non-committal.
>
>and that the Republican Party
>> no longer represents individualism but instead stands for borrowing
>> money from the Chinese to wage a wasteful war and finance taxcuts and
>> war profiteering for Bush's cronies, for wasted US military power, for
>> rightwing fundamentalism shoved down your throat, and for a gang of
>> creeps that are willing to do anything, no matter how treasonous, in
>> their pursuit of power.

>
>Have no clue what Lance thinks about this.
>
>I have yet to find an intelligent AND informed person who voted for
>Shrub. (And I live in Utah; the odds are there for such people to
>exist.) As near as I can tell, you voted for Shrub only if you were:
>
>stupid (including failure to think about your vote),
>ill- or mis-informed,
>a religious activist.
>


It's such well informed opinions as these that account for great
success that the Democratic party has had in Congressional,
Senatorial, and Presidential elections recently.

Democrates need to come up with a little better slogan than "Vote for
Us or you must be miss-informed, religious bigot, moron!".
 
On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 23:35:59 -0600, Raptor <[email protected]>
wrote:

>[email protected] wrote:
>> Apparently Kerry is there at LA's invitation. Crow worked for Kerry in
>> 2004 and Armstrong and Crow were in Boston for the post-election party.

>
>Crow is a flaming libbie. I knew there was somthing I liked about her.
>Something else, I mean.
>
>> Maybe Armstrong has figured out that Bush is a sociopath who uses him
>> to further his own political objectives,

>
>Can't tell from Lance's comments, as far as I have seen. (Not sure I
>agree with it either. I don't think Shrub is a sociopath.)
>
>that Bush got us involved in a
>> stupid war whose cost in American lives, money and international
>> influence is almost beyond conprehension,

>
>Likely (that Lance realizes this) if you do a lot of reading between the
>lines of what he's said. His few comments about the war have been
>non-committal.
>
>and that the Republican Party
>> no longer represents individualism but instead stands for borrowing
>> money from the Chinese to wage a wasteful war and finance taxcuts and
>> war profiteering for Bush's cronies, for wasted US military power, for
>> rightwing fundamentalism shoved down your throat, and for a gang of
>> creeps that are willing to do anything, no matter how treasonous, in
>> their pursuit of power.

>
>Have no clue what Lance thinks about this.
>
>I have yet to find an intelligent AND informed person who voted for
>Shrub. (And I live in Utah; the odds are there for such people to
>exist.) As near as I can tell, you voted for Shrub only if you were:
>
>stupid (including failure to think about your vote),
>ill- or mis-informed,
>a religious activist.
>


It's such well informed opinions as these that account for great
success that the Democratic party has had in Congressional,
Senatorial, and Presidential elections recently.

Democrates need to come up with a little better slogan than "Vote for
Us or you must be miss-informed, religious bigot, moron!".
 
On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 23:35:59 -0600, Raptor <[email protected]>
wrote:

>[email protected] wrote:
>> Apparently Kerry is there at LA's invitation. Crow worked for Kerry in
>> 2004 and Armstrong and Crow were in Boston for the post-election party.

>
>Crow is a flaming libbie. I knew there was somthing I liked about her.
>Something else, I mean.
>
>> Maybe Armstrong has figured out that Bush is a sociopath who uses him
>> to further his own political objectives,

>
>Can't tell from Lance's comments, as far as I have seen. (Not sure I
>agree with it either. I don't think Shrub is a sociopath.)
>
>that Bush got us involved in a
>> stupid war whose cost in American lives, money and international
>> influence is almost beyond conprehension,

>
>Likely (that Lance realizes this) if you do a lot of reading between the
>lines of what he's said. His few comments about the war have been
>non-committal.
>
>and that the Republican Party
>> no longer represents individualism but instead stands for borrowing
>> money from the Chinese to wage a wasteful war and finance taxcuts and
>> war profiteering for Bush's cronies, for wasted US military power, for
>> rightwing fundamentalism shoved down your throat, and for a gang of
>> creeps that are willing to do anything, no matter how treasonous, in
>> their pursuit of power.

>
>Have no clue what Lance thinks about this.
>
>I have yet to find an intelligent AND informed person who voted for
>Shrub. (And I live in Utah; the odds are there for such people to
>exist.) As near as I can tell, you voted for Shrub only if you were:
>
>stupid (including failure to think about your vote),
>ill- or mis-informed,
>a religious activist.
>


It's such well informed opinions as these that account for great
success that the Democratic party has had in Congressional,
Senatorial, and Presidential elections recently.

Democrates need to come up with a little better slogan than "Vote for
Us or you must be miss-informed, religious bigot, moron!".
 
On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 23:35:59 -0600, Raptor <[email protected]>
wrote:

>[email protected] wrote:
>> Apparently Kerry is there at LA's invitation. Crow worked for Kerry in
>> 2004 and Armstrong and Crow were in Boston for the post-election party.

>
>Crow is a flaming libbie. I knew there was somthing I liked about her.
>Something else, I mean.
>
>> Maybe Armstrong has figured out that Bush is a sociopath who uses him
>> to further his own political objectives,

>
>Can't tell from Lance's comments, as far as I have seen. (Not sure I
>agree with it either. I don't think Shrub is a sociopath.)
>
>that Bush got us involved in a
>> stupid war whose cost in American lives, money and international
>> influence is almost beyond conprehension,

>
>Likely (that Lance realizes this) if you do a lot of reading between the
>lines of what he's said. His few comments about the war have been
>non-committal.
>
>and that the Republican Party
>> no longer represents individualism but instead stands for borrowing
>> money from the Chinese to wage a wasteful war and finance taxcuts and
>> war profiteering for Bush's cronies, for wasted US military power, for
>> rightwing fundamentalism shoved down your throat, and for a gang of
>> creeps that are willing to do anything, no matter how treasonous, in
>> their pursuit of power.

>
>Have no clue what Lance thinks about this.
>
>I have yet to find an intelligent AND informed person who voted for
>Shrub. (And I live in Utah; the odds are there for such people to
>exist.) As near as I can tell, you voted for Shrub only if you were:
>
>stupid (including failure to think about your vote),
>ill- or mis-informed,
>a religious activist.
>


It's such well informed opinions as these that account for great
success that the Democratic party has had in Congressional,
Senatorial, and Presidential elections recently.

Democrates need to come up with a little better slogan than "Vote for
Us or you must be miss-informed, religious bigot, moron!".
 
On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 23:35:59 -0600, Raptor <[email protected]>
wrote:

>[email protected] wrote:
>> Apparently Kerry is there at LA's invitation. Crow worked for Kerry in
>> 2004 and Armstrong and Crow were in Boston for the post-election party.

>
>Crow is a flaming libbie. I knew there was somthing I liked about her.
>Something else, I mean.
>
>> Maybe Armstrong has figured out that Bush is a sociopath who uses him
>> to further his own political objectives,

>
>Can't tell from Lance's comments, as far as I have seen. (Not sure I
>agree with it either. I don't think Shrub is a sociopath.)
>
>that Bush got us involved in a
>> stupid war whose cost in American lives, money and international
>> influence is almost beyond conprehension,

>
>Likely (that Lance realizes this) if you do a lot of reading between the
>lines of what he's said. His few comments about the war have been
>non-committal.
>
>and that the Republican Party
>> no longer represents individualism but instead stands for borrowing
>> money from the Chinese to wage a wasteful war and finance taxcuts and
>> war profiteering for Bush's cronies, for wasted US military power, for
>> rightwing fundamentalism shoved down your throat, and for a gang of
>> creeps that are willing to do anything, no matter how treasonous, in
>> their pursuit of power.

>
>Have no clue what Lance thinks about this.
>
>I have yet to find an intelligent AND informed person who voted for
>Shrub. (And I live in Utah; the odds are there for such people to
>exist.) As near as I can tell, you voted for Shrub only if you were:
>
>stupid (including failure to think about your vote),
>ill- or mis-informed,
>a religious activist.
>


It's such well informed opinions as these that account for great
success that the Democratic party has had in Congressional,
Senatorial, and Presidential elections recently.

Democrates need to come up with a little better slogan than "Vote for
Us or you must be miss-informed, religious bigot, moron!".
 
Carl Sundquist wrote:
>
> Tim Lines wrote:
>
>>Is there someone who really loves "crass commercialism"?

>
>
> Mrs. Kerry?
>


My guess would be that she could do without the crass part.

My guess could be wrong. I've only had my cable hooked up for 2+ weeks
now after living without for 10 years. Some of that **** qualifies as
crass commercialism and if it's on, somebody must like it. I'd bet that
if I figured out who likes that ****, I'd find that it's appeal crosses
political boundaries. I'd bet more than I have on that.
 
Carl Sundquist wrote:
>
> Tim Lines wrote:
>
>>Is there someone who really loves "crass commercialism"?

>
>
> Mrs. Kerry?
>


My guess would be that she could do without the crass part.

My guess could be wrong. I've only had my cable hooked up for 2+ weeks
now after living without for 10 years. Some of that **** qualifies as
crass commercialism and if it's on, somebody must like it. I'd bet that
if I figured out who likes that ****, I'd find that it's appeal crosses
political boundaries. I'd bet more than I have on that.
 
Carl Sundquist wrote:
>
> Tim Lines wrote:
>
>>Is there someone who really loves "crass commercialism"?

>
>
> Mrs. Kerry?
>


My guess would be that she could do without the crass part.

My guess could be wrong. I've only had my cable hooked up for 2+ weeks
now after living without for 10 years. Some of that **** qualifies as
crass commercialism and if it's on, somebody must like it. I'd bet that
if I figured out who likes that ****, I'd find that it's appeal crosses
political boundaries. I'd bet more than I have on that.
 
Carl Sundquist wrote:
>
> Tim Lines wrote:
>
>>Is there someone who really loves "crass commercialism"?

>
>
> Mrs. Kerry?
>


My guess would be that she could do without the crass part.

My guess could be wrong. I've only had my cable hooked up for 2+ weeks
now after living without for 10 years. Some of that **** qualifies as
crass commercialism and if it's on, somebody must like it. I'd bet that
if I figured out who likes that ****, I'd find that it's appeal crosses
political boundaries. I'd bet more than I have on that.
 
Carl Sundquist wrote:
>
> Tim Lines wrote:
>
>>Is there someone who really loves "crass commercialism"?

>
>
> Mrs. Kerry?
>


My guess would be that she could do without the crass part.

My guess could be wrong. I've only had my cable hooked up for 2+ weeks
now after living without for 10 years. Some of that **** qualifies as
crass commercialism and if it's on, somebody must like it. I'd bet that
if I figured out who likes that ****, I'd find that it's appeal crosses
political boundaries. I'd bet more than I have on that.
 
Carl Sundquist wrote:
>
> Tim Lines wrote:
>
>>Is there someone who really loves "crass commercialism"?

>
>
> Mrs. Kerry?
>


My guess would be that she could do without the crass part.

My guess could be wrong. I've only had my cable hooked up for 2+ weeks
now after living without for 10 years. Some of that **** qualifies as
crass commercialism and if it's on, somebody must like it. I'd bet that
if I figured out who likes that ****, I'd find that it's appeal crosses
political boundaries. I'd bet more than I have on that.
 
trg wrote:
> "Raptor" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de news:
> [email protected]...
>
>
>>Likely (that Lance realizes this) if you do a lot of reading between the
>>lines of what he's said. His few comments about the war have been
>>non-committal.

>
>
> No, pre-war he came out against the invasion. Maybe it was just a ploy to
> get into Sheryl pants?
>
>


And that is a stronger, more sensible basis for maintaining a political
stance than most Americans have.
 
trg wrote:
> "Raptor" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de news:
> [email protected]...
>
>
>>Likely (that Lance realizes this) if you do a lot of reading between the
>>lines of what he's said. His few comments about the war have been
>>non-committal.

>
>
> No, pre-war he came out against the invasion. Maybe it was just a ploy to
> get into Sheryl pants?
>
>


And that is a stronger, more sensible basis for maintaining a political
stance than most Americans have.
 
trg wrote:
> "Raptor" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de news:
> [email protected]...
>
>
>>Likely (that Lance realizes this) if you do a lot of reading between the
>>lines of what he's said. His few comments about the war have been
>>non-committal.

>
>
> No, pre-war he came out against the invasion. Maybe it was just a ploy to
> get into Sheryl pants?
>
>


And that is a stronger, more sensible basis for maintaining a political
stance than most Americans have.