John Kerry



On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 08:58:29 -0600, Raptor <[email protected]> wrote:

>RonSonic wrote:
>> On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 15:09:21 GMT, C.M. Burns <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 23:35:59 -0600, Raptor <[email protected]>

>
>>>>I have yet to find an intelligent AND informed person who voted for
>>>>Shrub. (And I live in Utah; the odds are there for such people to
>>>>exist.) As near as I can tell, you voted for Shrub only if you were:
>>>>
>>>>stupid (including failure to think about your vote),
>>>>ill- or mis-informed,
>>>>a religious activist.
>>>>
>>>
>>>It's such well informed opinions as these that account for great
>>>success that the Democratic party has had in Congressional,
>>>Senatorial, and Presidential elections recently.
>>>
>>>Democrates need to come up with a little better slogan than "Vote for
>>>Us or you must be miss-informed, religious bigot, moron!".

>>
>>
>> Hey, they're doing great with that. Let 'em go ahead. <SHHhhhhhhh>
>>
>> Ron

>
>Interesting how fast the subject changes from the president. The
>embarrassment seems to be sinking in even on that side of politics.
>
>(Democrats ARE kicking ass fairly well on the local/county level. It
>remains to be seen whether they/we can leverage any of that upward. But
>Shrub has three years left to help us out.)


The Dems have some real structural problems as a national party, and to be
honest I'd love to see them worked out.

Don't think it'll happen until a few things change. But we'll see.

Ron
 
On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 08:58:29 -0600, Raptor <[email protected]> wrote:

>RonSonic wrote:
>> On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 15:09:21 GMT, C.M. Burns <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 23:35:59 -0600, Raptor <[email protected]>

>
>>>>I have yet to find an intelligent AND informed person who voted for
>>>>Shrub. (And I live in Utah; the odds are there for such people to
>>>>exist.) As near as I can tell, you voted for Shrub only if you were:
>>>>
>>>>stupid (including failure to think about your vote),
>>>>ill- or mis-informed,
>>>>a religious activist.
>>>>
>>>
>>>It's such well informed opinions as these that account for great
>>>success that the Democratic party has had in Congressional,
>>>Senatorial, and Presidential elections recently.
>>>
>>>Democrates need to come up with a little better slogan than "Vote for
>>>Us or you must be miss-informed, religious bigot, moron!".

>>
>>
>> Hey, they're doing great with that. Let 'em go ahead. <SHHhhhhhhh>
>>
>> Ron

>
>Interesting how fast the subject changes from the president. The
>embarrassment seems to be sinking in even on that side of politics.
>
>(Democrats ARE kicking ass fairly well on the local/county level. It
>remains to be seen whether they/we can leverage any of that upward. But
>Shrub has three years left to help us out.)


The Dems have some real structural problems as a national party, and to be
honest I'd love to see them worked out.

Don't think it'll happen until a few things change. But we'll see.

Ron
 
On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 08:58:29 -0600, Raptor <[email protected]> wrote:

>RonSonic wrote:
>> On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 15:09:21 GMT, C.M. Burns <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 23:35:59 -0600, Raptor <[email protected]>

>
>>>>I have yet to find an intelligent AND informed person who voted for
>>>>Shrub. (And I live in Utah; the odds are there for such people to
>>>>exist.) As near as I can tell, you voted for Shrub only if you were:
>>>>
>>>>stupid (including failure to think about your vote),
>>>>ill- or mis-informed,
>>>>a religious activist.
>>>>
>>>
>>>It's such well informed opinions as these that account for great
>>>success that the Democratic party has had in Congressional,
>>>Senatorial, and Presidential elections recently.
>>>
>>>Democrates need to come up with a little better slogan than "Vote for
>>>Us or you must be miss-informed, religious bigot, moron!".

>>
>>
>> Hey, they're doing great with that. Let 'em go ahead. <SHHhhhhhhh>
>>
>> Ron

>
>Interesting how fast the subject changes from the president. The
>embarrassment seems to be sinking in even on that side of politics.
>
>(Democrats ARE kicking ass fairly well on the local/county level. It
>remains to be seen whether they/we can leverage any of that upward. But
>Shrub has three years left to help us out.)


The Dems have some real structural problems as a national party, and to be
honest I'd love to see them worked out.

Don't think it'll happen until a few things change. But we'll see.

Ron
 
On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 08:58:29 -0600, Raptor <[email protected]> wrote:

>RonSonic wrote:
>> On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 15:09:21 GMT, C.M. Burns <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 23:35:59 -0600, Raptor <[email protected]>

>
>>>>I have yet to find an intelligent AND informed person who voted for
>>>>Shrub. (And I live in Utah; the odds are there for such people to
>>>>exist.) As near as I can tell, you voted for Shrub only if you were:
>>>>
>>>>stupid (including failure to think about your vote),
>>>>ill- or mis-informed,
>>>>a religious activist.
>>>>
>>>
>>>It's such well informed opinions as these that account for great
>>>success that the Democratic party has had in Congressional,
>>>Senatorial, and Presidential elections recently.
>>>
>>>Democrates need to come up with a little better slogan than "Vote for
>>>Us or you must be miss-informed, religious bigot, moron!".

>>
>>
>> Hey, they're doing great with that. Let 'em go ahead. <SHHhhhhhhh>
>>
>> Ron

>
>Interesting how fast the subject changes from the president. The
>embarrassment seems to be sinking in even on that side of politics.
>
>(Democrats ARE kicking ass fairly well on the local/county level. It
>remains to be seen whether they/we can leverage any of that upward. But
>Shrub has three years left to help us out.)


The Dems have some real structural problems as a national party, and to be
honest I'd love to see them worked out.

Don't think it'll happen until a few things change. But we'll see.

Ron