Johnny NoCom or Osama? Time to vote!

[Edward Dolan]

"Kurt Fischer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> skip <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> But on the other hand, it will be nice for arbr to be able get back to
>> business as usual.
>
> "Business as usual!? You mean Ed D. versus Tom S. and the rest of all
> the g.d. liberals?
> To be honest, at the moment I find this game much more amusing. At least
> it has peripherally to do with recumbents. ;-)\

It will only amuse you for a very short time. Single subjects are always
like that. The more you get into them, the less interesting they become.
Once over lightly is the best policy. I do not stay stuck on a single
subject for long, unlike so many others on this group, but instead I range
widely. In the long run, I am the more interesting and entertaining writer.

However, unlike Johnny NoCom, I am a fairly serious writer and reading too
much of me can lead to the mental doldrums. Even I get more depressed than
normal when I reread my postings to ARBR. I am best taken in small doses.
Read me when you are feeling cheerful and optimistic about life and you want
to be brought back to the basic realities - fearfulness, hatred and despair.
I am your doom and gloom guy.

Beware of those who are looking on the sunny side of life. They will only
lead you down a primrose path and at the end of that path will be ME and the
legions of Hell. It is far better to be depressed as that way your every
life expectation will be fulfilled in spades. I am NEVER disappointed
because I NEVER expect anything good. But it does get tiresome always being
so right about everything. It is almost God like! Mr. Sherman must be the
Devil because he is always so wrong about everything.

The liberals have largely been corralled and so I am now free to move on.
Look for diverse off topic postings from me in the near future. Of course, I
shall continue to never interfere with on topic postings. After all, that is
why I am here too - even if it is only 1 in 25 messages that interest me.

--
Regards,

Ed Dolan - Minnesota

 

[Tom Sherman]

Edward Dolan wrote:

> "skip" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>"Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>
>>>skip wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>...
>>>>P.S. I don't know who Ambose Bierce is, but I'm convinced it would be
>>>>better not to know. So please - don't tell me.
>>>
>>>See <http://www.alcyone.com/max/lit/devils/>.
>>>
>>>--
>>>Tom Sherman
>>>
>>
>>I see your link with "devils" on the tail end of it. I'm not going there.
>>Funny how God is politically incorrect these days, but the Devil isn't.
>>
>>skip
>
>
> Skip, that is very wise of you. I too will NEVER go to a link unless I am
> provided some very specific information about what I will find there. I do
> not like surprises, pleasant or unpleasant. Mr. Sherman will often go to
> considerable effort to provide a link, but that is never enough. A single
> sentence or even a phrase about what is at the link will suffice, but "see"
> is never enough.

The link is for an online version of Ambrose Bierce's "Devil's
Dictionary", a work that I would expect Mr. Dolan to be familiar with
(and would be in the collection of moat English language libraries).

--
Tom Sherman

 

[Edward Dolan]

"Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Edward Dolan wrote:
>
>> "skip" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>
>>>"Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>>>skip wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>...
>>>>>P.S. I don't know who Ambose Bierce is, but I'm convinced it would be
>>>>>better not to know. So please - don't tell me.
>>>>
>>>>See <http://www.alcyone.com/max/lit/devils/>.
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Tom Sherman
>>>>
>>>
>>>I see your link with "devils" on the tail end of it. I'm not going
>>>there. Funny how God is politically incorrect these days, but the Devil
>>>isn't.
>>>
>>>skip
>>
>>
>> Skip, that is very wise of you. I too will NEVER go to a link unless I am
>> provided some very specific information about what I will find there. I
>> do not like surprises, pleasant or unpleasant. Mr. Sherman will often go
>> to considerable effort to provide a link, but that is never enough. A
>> single sentence or even a phrase about what is at the link will suffice,
>> but "see" is never enough.
>
> The link is for an online version of Ambrose Bierce's "Devil's
> Dictionary", a work that I would expect Mr. Dolan to be familiar with (and
> would be in the collection of most English language libraries).

Everything I said above still applies. The fact is that many on this group
do not trust you because you have all too often engaged in Tom-foolery. So
that is the price you pay when you are not consistent in your demeanor. I am
more consistent than you and so I believe more trusted because I am more
predictable.

Here is how you should have introduced the link:

See this link for an online version of Ambrose Bierce's "Devil's
Dictionary."

The above intro. would have been perfect and everyone could then decide for
themselves whether they wanted to go to the link or not.

--
Regards,

Ed Dolan - Minnesota

 

[skip]

"Kurt Fischer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> skip <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> But on the other hand, it will be nice for arbr to be able get back to
>> business as usual.
>


> "Business as usual!? You mean Ed D. versus Tom S. and the rest of all
> the g.d. liberals?
> To be honest, at the moment I find this game much more amusing. At least
> it has peripherally to do with recumbents. ;-)
>
> Kurt

That's right. We are only finding this amusing for the moment. Let's face
facts. Johnny NoCom is no Ed Dolan. And the brolies posting on arbr are
only amusing because they are taking this monkey business so seriously and
have such blood in their eye. From what I've seen in this little monkey
adventure Tom Sherman has more wit and style in his little finger than all
of them put together.

If Kamil (I think) or Bryan can demonstrate any financial loss because of
this I will be amazed and sympathetic. Until then it's monkey business.
And by the way, if anyone has the right to complain it should be Bacchetta
since the monkeys have been throwing banana peels at them from the moment
Bacchetta became successful. Bacchetta seems to handle this in good humor
and I doubt they will ever lose a single sale to a NoCom. My guess is that
any brolie or anyone else who is on an unstoppable quest to posses the
fastest bicycle in the known universe will have already bought his Aero. As
far as who and what is fastest we'll have to let HPV competition will sort
that out for those who care.

skip

 

[Kurt Fischer]

skip <[email protected]> wrote:

> "Kurt Fischer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...

> > To be honest, at the moment I find this game much more amusing. At least
> > it has peripherally to do with recumbents. ;-)

> That's right. We are only finding this amusing for the moment. Let's face
> facts. Johnny NoCom is no Ed Dolan. And the brolies posting on arbr are
> only amusing because they are taking this monkey business so seriously and
> have such blood in their eye.

It's exactly the earnest in the replies I find amusing and amazing, not
Johnny NoCom himself. He's just a troll posting garbage to newsgroups
and I can't see a single reason for taking him serious. He used for a
while a faked email address pointing at BROL, but meanwhile he's changed
it and anyone who cares can clearly see there is no connection between
the BROL staff and the troll.


> From what I've seen in this little monkey adventure Tom Sherman has more wit
> and style in his little finger than all of them put together.

Yes, but don't forget: Tom is a wildlife creature, while the posters
over at BROL are tamed by belonging to a moderated forum. You have to
give up a certain amount of freedom for your comfort and your security.
Tom obviously knows Ed and some of the monkeys in real life, maybe this
helps him to understand better their motivations and behavior.


> If Kamil (I think) or Bryan can demonstrate any financial loss because of
> this I will be amazed and sympathetic. Until then it's monkey business.
> And by the way, if anyone has the right to complain it should be Bacchetta
> since the monkeys have been throwing banana peels at them from the moment
> Bacchetta became successful. Bacchetta seems to handle this in good humor
> and I doubt they will ever lose a single sale to a NoCom. My guess is that
> any brolie or anyone else who is on an unstoppable quest to posses the
> fastest bicycle in the known universe will have already bought his Aero. As
> far as who and what is fastest we'll have to let HPV competition will sort
> that out for those who care.

At the moment I see no financial loss, either for Kamil or Bryan, and
IMO they are well advised to follow Bacchetta's example and to handle
the affair in good humor too. The interest for BROL and probably also
the NoCom has reached a new high, and that's not a bad thing after all.
Of course there is the risk of a bad reputation, but anyone who is in
doubt can go over to BROL and read the facts. And the bad-mannered
DF-bashing is none to non-existent over there, partly due to the
moderation, which in this hindsight seems to be an advantage. But you
can't have them all.

And concerning the "fastest" bike: While the NoCom actually may be fast
on tracks and certain courses, it's in no way a bike for riding or
racing under "real life" conditions, there are a lot of (fast) bikes
better suited for this purpose. And after all, it's not the bike, it's
the rider, who is fast. ;-)

Kurt

 

[skip]

"Kurt Fischer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> skip <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> "Kurt Fischer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>
>> > To be honest, at the moment I find this game much more amusing. At
>> > least
>> > it has peripherally to do with recumbents. ;-)
>
>> That's right. We are only finding this amusing for the moment. Let's
>> face
>> facts. Johnny NoCom is no Ed Dolan. And the brolies posting on arbr are
>> only amusing because they are taking this monkey business so seriously
>> and
>> have such blood in their eye.
>
> It's exactly the earnest in the replies I find amusing and amazing, not
> Johnny NoCom himself. He's just a troll posting garbage to newsgroups
> and I can't see a single reason for taking him serious. He used for a
> while a faked email address pointing at BROL, but meanwhile he's changed
> it and anyone who cares can clearly see there is no connection between
> the BROL staff and the troll.
>
>
>> From what I've seen in this little monkey adventure Tom Sherman has more
>> wit
>> and style in his little finger than all of them put together.
>
> Yes, but don't forget: Tom is a wildlife creature, while the posters
> over at BROL are tamed by belonging to a moderated forum. You have to
> give up a certain amount of freedom for your comfort and your security.
> Tom obviously knows Ed and some of the monkeys in real life, maybe this
> helps him to understand better their motivations and behavior.
>
>
>> If Kamil (I think) or Bryan can demonstrate any financial loss because of
>> this I will be amazed and sympathetic. Until then it's monkey business.
>> And by the way, if anyone has the right to complain it should be
>> Bacchetta
>> since the monkeys have been throwing banana peels at them from the
>> moment
>> Bacchetta became successful. Bacchetta seems to handle this in good
>> humor
>> and I doubt they will ever lose a single sale to a NoCom. My guess is
>> that
>> any brolie or anyone else who is on an unstoppable quest to posses the
>> fastest bicycle in the known universe will have already bought his Aero.
>> As
>> far as who and what is fastest we'll have to let HPV competition will
>> sort
>> that out for those who care.
>
> At the moment I see no financial loss, either for Kamil or Bryan, and
> IMO they are well advised to follow Bacchetta's example and to handle
> the affair in good humor too. The interest for BROL and probably also
> the NoCom has reached a new high, and that's not a bad thing after all.
> Of course there is the risk of a bad reputation, but anyone who is in
> doubt can go over to BROL and read the facts. And the bad-mannered
> DF-bashing is none to non-existent over there, partly due to the
> moderation, which in this hindsight seems to be an advantage. But you
> can't have them all.
>
> And concerning the "fastest" bike: While the NoCom actually may be fast
> on tracks and certain courses, it's in no way a bike for riding or
> racing under "real life" conditions, there are a lot of (fast) bikes
> better suited for this purpose. And after all, it's not the bike, it's
> the rider, who is fast. ;-)
>
> Kurt

All true. Especially your last paragraph. I don't want to sound
disparaging to the beloved recumbent brotherhood, but it has been my
observation over time that some of us (myself included) are hoping to
purchase speed rather than train for it.

skip

 

[Tom Sherman]

skip wrote:

> "Kurt Fischer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>skip <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>But on the other hand, it will be nice for arbr to be able get back to
>>>business as usual.
>>
>
>
>>"Business as usual!? You mean Ed D. versus Tom S. and the rest of all
>>the g.d. liberals?
>>To be honest, at the moment I find this game much more amusing. At least
>>it has peripherally to do with recumbents. ;-)
>>
>>Kurt
>
>
> That's right. We are only finding this amusing for the moment. Let's face
> facts. Johnny NoCom is no Ed Dolan. And the brolies posting on arbr are
> only amusing because they are taking this monkey business so seriously and
> have such blood in their eye. From what I've seen in this little monkey
> adventure Tom Sherman has more wit and style in his little finger than all
> of them put together.

It is funny how one Monkey being deliberately silly and outrageous can
upset so many people.

> If Kamil (I think) or Bryan can demonstrate any financial loss because of
> this I will be amazed and sympathetic. Until then it's monkey business.
> And by the way, if anyone has the right to complain it should be Bacchetta
> since the monkeys have been throwing banana peels at them from the moment
> Bacchetta became successful. Bacchetta seems to handle this in good humor
> and I doubt they will ever lose a single sale to a NoCom. My guess is that
> any brolie or anyone else who is on an unstoppable quest to posses the
> fastest bicycle in the known universe will have already bought his Aero. As
> far as who and what is fastest we'll have to let HPV competition will sort
> that out for those who care.

I have the word of a certain Monkey that friendly overtures were made to
a key person at X-Eyed/Bacchetta, and that person was unfriendly in
return. This event occurred before any of the Monkey Island (or other
Internet forum) silliness started.

--
Tom Sherman

 

[Tom Sherman]

skip wrote:

> "Kurt Fischer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> ...
>>And concerning the "fastest" bike: While the NoCom actually may be fast
>>on tracks and certain courses, it's in no way a bike for riding or
>>racing under "real life" conditions, there are a lot of (fast) bikes
>>better suited for this purpose. And after all, it's not the bike, it's
>>the rider, who is fast. ;-)
>>
>>Kurt
>
>
> All true. Especially your last paragraph. I don't want to sound
> disparaging to the beloved recumbent brotherhood, but it has been my
> observation over time that some of us (myself included) are hoping to
> purchase speed rather than train for it.

I will race anyone if I get a NoCom and they have to ride a Pashley
Classic 33 [1] towing this cargo trailer [2], both loaded with sand
ballast.

[1] <http://www.pashley.co.uk/products/work/classic33/splash.html>.
[2]
<http://www.bikesatwork.com/bike-trailers/truss-bike-trailer/rubbermaid-roughtote-bins.jpg>.

--
Tom "Unfair advantage" Sherman

 

[Tom Sherman]

Kurt Fischer wrote:

> ...
> Yes, but don't forget: Tom is a wildlife creature, while the posters
> over at BROL are tamed by belonging to a moderated forum. You have to
> give up a certain amount of freedom for your comfort and your security.
> Tom obviously knows Ed and some of the monkeys in real life, maybe this
> helps him to understand better their motivations and behavior....

To clarify; I know Ed Gin but do not know Ed Dolan in person.

--
Tom Sherman

Those willing to give up a little liberty for a little security deserve
neither security nor liberty. - Benjamin Franklin

 

[Mark Leuck]

"Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> >
> > That's right. We are only finding this amusing for the moment. Let's
face
> > facts. Johnny NoCom is no Ed Dolan. And the brolies posting on arbr are
> > only amusing because they are taking this monkey business so seriously
and
> > have such blood in their eye. From what I've seen in this little monkey
> > adventure Tom Sherman has more wit and style in his little finger than
all
> > of them put together.
>
> It is funny how one Monkey being deliberately silly and outrageous can
> upset so many people.
>
> > If Kamil (I think) or Bryan can demonstrate any financial loss because
of
> > this I will be amazed and sympathetic. Until then it's monkey business.
> > And by the way, if anyone has the right to complain it should be
Bacchetta
> > since the monkeys have been throwing banana peels at them from the
moment
> > Bacchetta became successful. Bacchetta seems to handle this in good
humor
> > and I doubt they will ever lose a single sale to a NoCom. My guess is
that
> > any brolie or anyone else who is on an unstoppable quest to posses the
> > fastest bicycle in the known universe will have already bought his Aero.
As
> > far as who and what is fastest we'll have to let HPV competition will
sort
> > that out for those who care.
>
> I have the word of a certain Monkey that friendly overtures were made to
> a key person at X-Eyed/Bacchetta, and that person was unfriendly in
> return. This event occurred before any of the Monkey Island (or other
> Internet forum) silliness started.

So I guess that means in some small way Bacchetta is responsible if anything
bad happens to them by a member of said Monkey Island forum member?

 

[Tom Sherman]

Mark Leuck wrote:

> "Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>>That's right. We are only finding this amusing for the moment. Let's
>
> face
>
>>>facts. Johnny NoCom is no Ed Dolan. And the brolies posting on arbr are
>>>only amusing because they are taking this monkey business so seriously
>
> and
>
>>>have such blood in their eye. From what I've seen in this little monkey
>>>adventure Tom Sherman has more wit and style in his little finger than
>
> all
>
>>>of them put together.
>>
>>It is funny how one Monkey being deliberately silly and outrageous can
>>upset so many people.
>>
>>
>>>If Kamil (I think) or Bryan can demonstrate any financial loss because
>
> of
>
>>>this I will be amazed and sympathetic. Until then it's monkey business.
>>>And by the way, if anyone has the right to complain it should be
>
> Bacchetta
>
>>>since the monkeys have been throwing banana peels at them from the
>
> moment
>
>>>Bacchetta became successful. Bacchetta seems to handle this in good
>
> humor
>
>>>and I doubt they will ever lose a single sale to a NoCom. My guess is
>
> that
>
>>>any brolie or anyone else who is on an unstoppable quest to posses the
>>>fastest bicycle in the known universe will have already bought his Aero.
>
> As
>
>>>far as who and what is fastest we'll have to let HPV competition will
>
> sort
>
>>>that out for those who care.
>>
>>I have the word of a certain Monkey that friendly overtures were made to
>>a key person at X-Eyed/Bacchetta, and that person was unfriendly in
>>return. This event occurred before any of the Monkey Island (or other
>>Internet forum) silliness started.
>
>
> So I guess that means in some small way Bacchetta is responsible if anything
> bad happens to them by a member of said Monkey Island forum member?

Fishing, Mr. Leuck?

--
Tom Sherman

 

[skip]

"Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> skip wrote:
>
>> "Kurt Fischer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> ...
>>>And concerning the "fastest" bike: While the NoCom actually may be fast
>>>on tracks and certain courses, it's in no way a bike for riding or
>>>racing under "real life" conditions, there are a lot of (fast) bikes
>>>better suited for this purpose. And after all, it's not the bike, it's
>>>the rider, who is fast. ;-)
>>>
>>>Kurt
>>
>>
>> All true. Especially your last paragraph. I don't want to sound
>> disparaging to the beloved recumbent brotherhood, but it has been my
>> observation over time that some of us (myself included) are hoping to
>> purchase speed rather than train for it.
>
> I will race anyone if I get a NoCom and they have to ride a Pashley
> Classic 33 [1] towing this cargo trailer [2], both loaded with sand
> ballast.
>
> [1] <http://www.pashley.co.uk/products/work/classic33/splash.html>.
> [2]
> <http://www.bikesatwork.com/bike-trailers/truss-bike-trailer/rubbermaid-roughtote-bins.jpg>.
>
> --
> Tom "Unfair advantage" Sherman
>

I might be interested in promoting such a race if the Pashley rider could
have the semi faired courier version of that bike and a loose trailer hitch.

skip

 

[Edward Dolan]

"Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Kurt Fischer wrote:
>
>> ...
>> Yes, but don't forget: Tom is a wildlife creature, while the posters
>> over at BROL are tamed by belonging to a moderated forum. You have to
>> give up a certain amount of freedom for your comfort and your security.
>> Tom obviously knows Ed and some of the monkeys in real life, maybe this
>> helps him to understand better their motivations and behavior....
>
> To clarify; I know Ed Gin but do not know Ed Dolan in person.

There are getting to be too many Ed's on this group. This is a bit unusual
in that Edward is no longer a popular name. I think it was much more popular
a couple of generations ago which may account for all the Ed's on this
group. I think Michael is now one of the most popular of all names, but
there are not many Mike's on this group. I wonder whatever happened to
Edward Wong. I believe he was from Florida and he always had very good
posts.

But anyone with the name of Edward has to be a great person. We Edward's
have to live up to our name after all. Kings of England and all that, you
know. It is my understanding from Mr. Sherman that there is apparently a
very famous talking horse also named Edward, who goes by the name of Mr. Ed.
I am not surprised as Edward is a very great name and would be appropriately
applied to a talking horse, surely a very rare and noble creature.

--
Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota

 

[Tom Sherman]

Kurt Fischer wrote:

> skip <[email protected]> wrote:
> ...
>>From what I've seen in this little monkey adventure Tom Sherman has more wit
>>and style in his little finger than all of them put together.
>
>
> Yes, but don't forget: Tom is a wildlife creature, while the posters
> over at BROL are tamed by belonging to a moderated forum. You have to
> give up a certain amount of freedom for your comfort and your security.
> Tom obviously knows Ed and some of the monkeys in real life, maybe this
> helps him to understand better their motivations and behavior....

Out of curiosity, I went and read the BROL thread about Johnny NoCom. I
must say the BROLies do seem a lot of stuffed shirts in comparison to
the various Usenet cycling groups. Ol' Cli..., err Cletus Lee did
possibly attempt some humor in suggesting that Ed Dolan was my sock puppet.

The comment about alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent being a tough crowd was
unintentionally funny - I at least have never noticed this to be true.

--
Tom "Un-moderated" Sherman

 

[Mark Leuck]

"Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> >>
> >>I have the word of a certain Monkey that friendly overtures were made to
> >>a key person at X-Eyed/Bacchetta, and that person was unfriendly in
> >>return. This event occurred before any of the Monkey Island (or other
> >>Internet forum) silliness started.
> >
> >
> > So I guess that means in some small way Bacchetta is responsible if
anything
> > bad happens to them by a member of said Monkey Island forum member?
>
> Fishing, Mr. Leuck?
>
> --
> Tom Sherman

I just wanted to see if you stayed consistent, if so and someone from the
Monkey Island forum mowed everyone down with automatic weapons and barrels
full of explosives then they partly deserved what they got right?

 

[skip]

"Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Kurt Fischer wrote:
>
>> skip <[email protected]> wrote:
>> ...
>>>From what I've seen in this little monkey adventure Tom Sherman has more
>>>wit
>>>and style in his little finger than all of them put together.
>>
>>
>> Yes, but don't forget: Tom is a wildlife creature, while the posters
>> over at BROL are tamed by belonging to a moderated forum. You have to
>> give up a certain amount of freedom for your comfort and your security.
>> Tom obviously knows Ed and some of the monkeys in real life, maybe this
>> helps him to understand better their motivations and behavior....
>
> Out of curiosity, I went and read the BROL thread about Johnny NoCom. I
> must say the BROLies do seem a lot of stuffed shirts in comparison to the
> various Usenet cycling groups. Ol' Cli..., err Cletus Lee did possibly
> attempt some humor in suggesting that Ed Dolan was my sock puppet.
>
> The comment about alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent being a tough crowd was
> unintentionally funny - I at least have never noticed this to be true.
>
> --
> Tom "Un-moderated" Sherman
>

Tom Sherman - wildlife creature raised by unmoderated wolves who dressed him
in sheep's clothing. Isn't that something I said some time ago?

I think I may have once said Cletus was humorless, so if I did I have to
take it back now based on his recent arbr comments. His new nickname had to
be monkey inspired and monkey bestowed. Hope it doesn't.... ah.. rub him
the wrong way.

The guy who thought arbr was a tough crowd must have been meaning the DF
racing group. That group is so tough I'm afraid to go there during the off
season.

skip

 

[Edward Dolan]

"skip" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
[...]
> Tom Sherman - wildlife creature raised by unmoderated wolves who dressed
> him in sheep's clothing. Isn't that something I said some time ago?

Yes, and I am a sheep in wolf's clothing. Maybe that is why Mr. Sherman and
I get along as well as we do.

> I think I may have once said Cletus was humorless, so if I did I have to
> take it back now based on his recent arbr comments. His new nickname had
> to be monkey inspired and monkey bestowed. Hope it doesn't.... ah.. rub
> him the wrong way.

Is Mr. Ball allowing posters to his forum (BROL) to run down ARBR? How low
can you get?

> The guy who thought arbr was a tough crowd must have been meaning the DF
> racing group. That group is so tough I'm afraid to go there during the
> off season.

I occasionally browse other groups, but so far I have not found any others
that come up to our own high standards. I think it is because most of us
recumbent cyclists are older and we are not plagued with the teenager
element. I remember what Al Capp, the famous cartoonist, had to say about
teenagers. He said they were the experts on hub caps and other peripheral
matters, but who would ever want to talk to them and get their opinion on
anything important. He was right of course. Teenagers should confine
themselves strictly to other teenagers. It has always amazed me how age
related so many subjects and activities are.

The one thing that is missing from ARBR are women. It may be that I have
scared some of them off, but I think it goes much deeper than that. We are a
contentious bunch and women are mostly into agreement and exchanging good
feelings. There is not much of that here on ARBR.

I must admit a moderated group would not suit me. I suppose if I were really
looking for information it might make some sense to go to a moderated group.
But I am NEVER looking for information - not anymore at least. The first
time the moderator fooled with one of my posts I would go berserk. No, I had
best stay away from these moderated forums. There would be no fun in them
for me.

--
Regards,

Ed Dolan - Minnesota

 

[Kurt Fischer]

skip <[email protected]> wrote:

> "Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...

> > I will race anyone if I get a NoCom and they have to ride a Pashley
> > Classic 33 [1] towing this cargo trailer [2], both loaded with sand
> > ballast.

> I might be interested in promoting such a race if the Pashley rider could
> have the semi faired courier version of that bike and a loose trailer hitch.

Or if the course leads downhill. But in this case you needed a kamikaze
pilot for the Pashley, which will be hard to find. ;-)

Kurt

 

[Kurt Fischer]

Tom Sherman <[email protected]> wrote:

> skip wrote:

> > That's right. We are only finding this amusing for the moment. Let's face
> > facts. Johnny NoCom is no Ed Dolan. And the brolies posting on arbr are
> > only amusing because they are taking this monkey business so seriously and
> > have such blood in their eye. From what I've seen in this little monkey
> > adventure Tom Sherman has more wit and style in his little finger than all
> > of them put together.
>
> It is funny how one Monkey being deliberately silly and outrageous can
> upset so many people.

Yes, more and more I'm coming myself to this conclusion. The more I read
from Johnnys postings, the more I see the silliness and the (very
strange) humor in it. It's not as bad and evil anymore as it looked on
the first glance. I'm not trying to find an excuse for Johnny's
behavior, but I see no longer a destroying motivation behind it, more
kind of a juvenile joy in provocation.


> I have the word of a certain Monkey that friendly overtures were made to
> a key person at X-Eyed/Bacchetta, and that person was unfriendly in
> return. This event occurred before any of the Monkey Island (or other
> Internet forum) silliness started.


Meanwhile they seem to get along quite well. On this picture you see Ed
Gin together with Bacchetta's RP and JS and some other monkeys.
(Note for Ed D.: There are even some women to see) ;-)

http://www.wisil.recumbents.com/wisil/misc/March04SpringClassicRide.htm

Kurt

 

[Kurt Fischer]

Edward Dolan <[email protected]> wrote:

> "skip" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> [...]
> > Tom Sherman - wildlife creature raised by unmoderated wolves who dressed
> > him in sheep's clothing. Isn't that something I said some time ago?
>
> Yes, and I am a sheep in wolf's clothing. Maybe that is why Mr. Sherman and
> I get along as well as we do.

Yes, but better don't turn your back to him. One never knows... ;-)


> > I think I may have once said Cletus was humorless, so if I did I have to
> > take it back now based on his recent arbr comments. His new nickname had
> > to be monkey inspired and monkey bestowed. Hope it doesn't.... ah.. rub
> > him the wrong way.
>
> Is Mr. Ball allowing posters to his forum (BROL) to run down ARBR? How low
> can you get?

Bryan gives the members a very long leash - as long as it doesn't come
to politics or personal insults. On the other hand, people prefering a
moderated forum probably are not looking for confrontation and quarrel
in the first line.

There are several posters going both ways, ARBR and BROL, myself
included. Each has its pros and cons, I wouldn't want to give up any of
them.


> > The guy who thought arbr was a tough crowd must have been meaning the DF
> > racing group. That group is so tough I'm afraid to go there during the
> > off season.
>
> I occasionally browse other groups, but so far I have not found any others
> that come up to our own high standards. I think it is because most of us
> recumbent cyclists are older and we are not plagued with the teenager
> element. I remember what Al Capp, the famous cartoonist, had to say about
> teenagers. He said they were the experts on hub caps and other peripheral
> matters, but who would ever want to talk to them and get their opinion on
> anything important. He was right of course. Teenagers should confine
> themselves strictly to other teenagers. It has always amazed me how age
> related so many subjects and activities are.

In my experience recumbent riders are generally a very civilized,
friendly, helpful and above average intelligent group, with the usual
exceptions of course. There may be some sort of minor dissonance now and
then, but in the end we seem to get along all quite well with each
other.


> The one thing that is missing from ARBR are women. It may be that I have
> scared some of them off, but I think it goes much deeper than that. We are a
> contentious bunch and women are mostly into agreement and exchanging good
> feelings. There is not much of that here on ARBR.

The same applies to the German groups and forums, and they are even more
civil and soft. In this business women are simply a minority at the
moment, and I'm not sure, if this ever will change.


Kurt