Jumping seat out.

Discussion in 'rec.sport.unicycling' started by juggle508, Jun 12, 2004.

  1. juggle508

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    I have looked through the forums and could not find what I was looking
    for. So I thought I would make this one.

    Can any of yall help me with tips on how to jump with seat out. I can't
    get very high. My best is like 7". When I jump seat in I like to take a
    pre hop. Should I take one with seat out? Plus I tried to take a big
    drop with seat out and when I hit the seat flies out of my hand. Please
    help. Any tips would be welcome. Especially movies or pics of it.


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  2. MuniTune

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  3. I have a video of me jumping up a three set in one hop on my gallery, if
    that'll help (follow the url in my sig, and go to Bernal Hill trials).
    Also, there's a video Ryan Atkins made for hopping advice somewhere in
    the galleries. It's more geared towards more advanced jumpers, though
    (from what I can tell). If you're only doing 7" don't bother prehopping.
    A good rule of thumb is if you can do it easily without prehopping
    without a unicycle (sidehop on your feet), then you shouldn't need one
    with a unicycle (For example, I can jump about 28-29" without a prehop
    on my feet, and I can do about 29" without a prehop on my unicycle). I
    guess this only applies to if technique is no longer an issue, though.
    But seriously, you shouldn't need to prehop on anything less than the
    height of your pedals. I mean, you're plenty strong enough to jump seven
    inches without needing the bounce of the tire...

    As for seat out drops, unless your doing three foot drops onto objects
    like the top of a fire hydrant, you don't need to drop seat out. I only
    recently got into seat out drops, and I still only do them if I'm doing
    a big drop without any space for landing. Learn to jump seat out before
    you learn to drop seat out. But if you must, here's the low-down: there
    are two types of seat out drops. One is pointless. The pointless one is
    where you do a big drop seat out and rollout as you crunch to the seat.
    This is hard and pointless, because seat in you can do a better landing
    anyway. The only time you (you meaning me) use this one is if you don't
    have time to go seat in or your bored.

    The second type is when you do a static seat out drop where unlike a
    seat in drop you land with your weight and body back and let your whole
    body crunch down into a crouch without letting the wheel move. This is
    extremely useful for doing big, precise drops, such as onto a fire
    hydrant, although it's still not nearly as easy or smooth as a seat in
    drop to a large landing.


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  4. hi, as a person who has recently become quickly proficient at seat out,
    from your level to a 52cm :-D

    i can only do it with a pre hop, i use the same technique as a seat in
    pre hop, but i tuck up very high, it takes a while to get used to the
    extra tuck up, but believe me, it helps.

    when dropping off stuff (ive only dropped about 3ft seat out) try
    absorbing shock with ur legs like you would anyway, but dont roll out,
    transfer into another hop, i find it easier that way

    the tips site is http://www.unicycle.2ya.com

    sorry i dont have any pics or movs....


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  5. nickvb123

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    As far as i'm concerned there is not much point to seat out drops and
    gaps. The only reason people hop seat out front is so they can hop
    higher, which doesnt really help you for drops and gaps, unless perhaps
    you need to do a gap from something on a lower level to something on a
    higher level.

    Definetly use a pre hop and use the ability to tuck the seat up really
    high.


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  6. vivalargo

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    After riding the rocky and steep terain up at Santa Barbara, I'm
    begining to wonder if it isn't worth trying to negotiate some of the
    tougher sections seat out. Said tougher sections almost always involve
    multi-tiered forward drops onto slanting rocks and can involve many
    drops, one after another, to get through a section. The biggest problem
    is flubbing a drop in the middle of the sequence and bashing yourself on
    the rocks. I'm thinking with the seat out it might be possible to bail
    with a bit more control, and also to be able to use more agility and
    body flex on the oblique angles involved--almost as though you were
    jumping rock to rock with both feet sans MUni. If these sections wern't
    so steep, and if you could pause after each drop--which you can't-- the
    idea would be doubtful.

    I don't know, and have no experience with such a technique, but it might
    be an interesting thing to try.

    JL


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  7. thinuniking

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  8. Nick: People don't just do seat out for big hops. I do seat out on all
    big gaps and lots of ups I can do easily seat in. I also do it on drops
    that I can't roll out of. It's super useful for big gaps because you can
    tuck up during the gap to allow your body to fall for a farther disatnce
    while keeping your wheel at the same height. I can gap a good 6" farther
    seat out.

    As for seat out on slanty surfaces like the ones in Santa Barbara,
    anyone who's ever done rock trials seat out will tell you that if the
    moves are smallyer, seat in is easier. If you can do the section seat
    in, do it seat in. Seat out brings a whole nother control issue you
    don't want to deal with. Basically, 99% of the time, you want the seat
    in in muni.


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  9. nickvb123

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    > Nick: People don't just do seat out for big hops. I do seat out on all
    > big gaps and lots of ups I can do easily seat in. I also do it on
    > drops that I can't roll out of. It's super useful for big gaps because
    > you can tuck up during the gap to allow your body to fall for a
    > farther disatnce while keeping your wheel at the same height. I can
    > gap a good 6" farther seat out.



    Being a freestyle rider i guess my lack of trials knowledge is beginning
    to show...

    My opinion was that seat out front hopping only helped with hopping up
    things but i guess i'm wrong.


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