Just something for many of you to think about.



Blue M_un <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 00:23:26 GMT, Mack <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >you've posted numerous times that name calling is wrong and here you
> >go again.
> >
> >and you wonder why people know you are not a real christian.

>
> OCD OCD OCD OCD OCD
>
> TROLLING all day long, right Mack?
>
> Xposted to ASD for their "benefit".


Look who's talking. Afraid to post this under your real name or real
e-mail address? Hmmm?

Mel
 
Reach for the Mu_n <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> On 17 Sep 2003 16:58:16 -0700, [email protected] (M. Schwartz) wrote:
>
> >> Mel, the sooner you let go your need to comprehend the mysteries of
> >> God, the quicker you will find your way to faith.

> >
> >Your e-mail address is as phony as you.
> >
> >People who haven't the decency to present themselves and hide behind
> >false names are without honor, without integrity, and preside as a
> >false witness.
> >
> >Mel, not appreciative of people with false names and false addresses
> >giving advice.

>
> Mel, the sooner you let go your need to comprehend the mysteries of
> God, the quicker you will find your way to faith.


Oh, and which God would that be? Your God?

Mel, not really taking this phony seriously.
 
Steve wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 15:56:27 -0400, Fencer wrote
> (in message <[email protected]>):
>
>>On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 15:07:32 -0400, Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>>
>>>Truth is unclear to the untruthful.

>>
>>Opinion is truth to the gullible.

>
> What's the difference between a duck?


Which is quicker, to New York or by train?

Grasshopper.

Pastorio
 
On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 16:31:13 -0700, M. Schwartz wrote:

> Look who's talking. Afraid to post this under your real name or real
> e-mail address? Hmmm?


His real name is MU! (Smile).. Ok now tell me why it matters what name
you post under on USENET? And only an idiot puts his real email out there
to be sucked up by mail bots.

(Don't get over excited MU, taking up for you will not be a new habit with
me)

--
Ronnie Ruff

So shines a good deed in a weary world.
--***** Wonka--

I pray for the power. To turn it around.
I'm too old to die young. And too young
to die now. Warren Zevon 1980
----------------------------------------------
http://www.livejournal.com/users/ronnie_in_dc
 
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

> Bob Pastorio wrote:
>
>
>>Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Steve wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 12:34:29 -0400, Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote
>>>>(in message <[email protected]>):
>>>>
>>>>Yawn... what does all this have do with Cardiology? (I know I'll be sorry I
>>>>asked... "you're not a Christian"..."you hate me"..."you hate my diet"..."I
>>>>always speak the truth"..."I pity you"... yadda, yadda, yadda...)
>>>
>>>Ask Mr. Pastorio, who is the person who started this off-topic thread directed at
>>>a Christian cardiologist.

>>
>>Mr. Pastorio has always directed his criticism at a charlatan
>>cardiologist.

>
> You are consistent in your behavior. Is this upon the recommendation of your new
> attorney?
>
> http://www.heartmdphd.com/libel.asp


Same attorney. And, oh, how we laugh at your frantic scrabbling trying
to hold together the tatters of your professional reputation here. And
how we enjoy the googles that show your lying. And how we smile at how
your many earned antagonists smash your rhetorical fakery so well and
often.

>>I haven't seen any
>>posts from a Christian cardiologist.


> Has God struck you blind already?


Not a bit. New glasses correct to better than 20-20. I've seen the
rantings of a disturbed cardiologist, just not a real Christian one.

> You have my pity for your heart disease, your eyesight and your obsessions. You will
> certainly be in my prayers this evening. "Lord, Mr. Pastorio knows not what he
> writes. Please forgive him."


Mr. Pastorio writes with all due deliberation, with full understanding
and grammatically (just thought I'd throw that last in to baffle Chung).

Save your pity. The heart disease is being managed very well by
cardiologists too busy, too intelligent, too diligent and too serious
to ever debase themselves like you do. My eyesight is actually
improving as I age starting from a slight myopia. My obsessions are my
family, my friends and skewering the frauds, the charlatans and the
poseurs. See how many categories you fit into?

Pastorio
 
Bob Pastorio wrote:

> <anti-Christian rantings snipped>


You have my pity for embarrassing yourself.

I'll pray again on your behalf, "Dear Almighty God, creator of all things seen and unseen,
please forgive Mr. Pastorio for he knows not what he writes. His hatred is directed at the
2 pound diet and me, its author, and not really at You. Give him another chance to accept
Jesus Christ into his heart. In Jesus' name, I pray. Amen."

--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
http://www.heartmdphd.com/
 
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

> Self-realization is a beautiful thing filled with truth.


Somebody ought to gather up all these empty Chungisms and make a
poster or something from them. They have that shining schizophrenic
"almost-reality" that Perls and others say marks the condition. They
sound like the sort of "wisdom" we come to expect from Pat Morita in
all those Karate Kid movies and the whole Kung-Fu genre pictures. That
inscrutable sentence that seems like you ought to ponder it.

The smart ones spot it for word play that has no meaning. The rest
say, "Wow, that's deep." They're the customers for the poster. Hell,
make a web site and offer the "Chungism of the day." Doesn't have to
make any sense; probably better if it doesn't, just to stay consistent.

I bet somebody could make a quick algorithm that could spit these
Chungisms out almost as fast as he does. Maybe even try to get some
contradictions in there. Use words that everybody already knows, just
arrange them in a puzzling way, and in puzzling references.

Let's see if we can create some here...
The moon is the small brother to the sun, as the woman is to all men.
Only the truthful can know what is untrue.
I am not a crook. (Oh, wait. That was Nixon...)

Pastorio
 
Reach for the Mu_n wrote:

> On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 17:23:22 -0400, "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>>I haven't seen any
>>>posts from a Christian cardiologist.
>>>
>>>Pastorio

>>
>>Has God struck you blind already?
>>
>>You have my pity for your heart disease, your eyesight and your obsessions. You will
>>certainly be in my prayers this evening. "Lord, Mr. Pastorio knows not what he
>>writes. Please forgive him."

>
> I agree.


Like that means something. Stop the presses! M_ule agrees with Chung!
One hand on the other hand.

> "Lord. please don't kill Bob Pastorio in his sleep simply because he
> ate like a pig, never exercised, thought his life revolved around food
> instead of You, can't shake certain addictions and nearly killed
> himself although, by his own admission, he knew better."


This from a guy with a sad history of erectile dysfunction, serious
heart problems that require him and his family (likely genetic
problems) to consult cardiologists and a history of drug and alcohol use.

Sad to see people deny their true difficulties, especially when they
try so hard to cast them onto others.

But, hey, tell us about your terrible health difficulties. we're here
to help. Look here; see what a friend I can be. I googled "erectile
dysfunction" for you and found a lot of references. Here's the Tiny
URL (seems appropriate enough, huh?) <http://tinyurl.com/nw17>

Pastorio
 
Reach for the Mu_n wrote:

> On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 15:53:16 -0400, Bob Pastorio <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>I'm a heart patient as well.

>
> Tell us more about that. What part of your diet, as a chef you would
> know, what parts of your diet did you in?
>
> Why didn't you exercise since you claim to have known better?
>
> Why did you nearly kill yourself at your own hands?
>
> When will you try to stop smoking?


So in the next post you change it to:
>Why do you still smoke?


And in the next post it transmogrifies to:
>Why won't you discuss your smoking and any of the above?
>Why are you on SMC at all then?


And you still don't get it. You are a mentally-disturbed fraud. I
won't deal with your sick and twisted actions. I deal with you as
amuses me. You are without presence. You are a footstool. You are
something to scrape off a shoe before entering a respectable place.
You are beneath contempt.

You are target practice. You are typing exercises. You are playtime
for grammar. You are a fake presence. A virtual person of no reality.

You have no credentials. You have no skills. You have no verifiable
value. You do nothing competent. You merit no consideration.

You are a mere shadow of a person. You might as well be a Turing
machine that makes up replies that sound like a person could have
written them. A stupidly destructive person, but a person, nonetheless.

Still having problems with the Erectile Dysfunction? I'd like to know
for when I get as used up and unhealthy as you are. Terrible heart
problems? Drug use? I understand they can all be tough to cope with.
No wonder you're bitter, disillusioned and unable to function except
in the most crippled ways. I bet Chung pities you *and* loves you. So
tell us what you meant when you said Chung was more than just a friend.

Pastorio
 
Bob Pastorio wrote:

> Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>
> > Self-realization is a beautiful thing filled with truth.

>
> Somebody ought to gather up all these empty Chungisms and make a
> poster or something from them. They have that shining schizophrenic
> "almost-reality" that Perls and others say marks the condition. They
> sound like the sort of "wisdom" we come to expect from Pat Morita in
> all those Karate Kid movies and the whole Kung-Fu genre pictures. That
> inscrutable sentence that seems like you ought to ponder it.
>
> The smart ones spot it for word play that has no meaning. The rest
> say, "Wow, that's deep." They're the customers for the poster. Hell,
> make a web site and offer the "Chungism of the day." Doesn't have to
> make any sense; probably better if it doesn't, just to stay consistent.
>
> I bet somebody could make a quick algorithm that could spit these
> Chungisms out almost as fast as he does. Maybe even try to get some
> contradictions in there. Use words that everybody already knows, just
> arrange them in a puzzling way, and in puzzling references.
>
> Let's see if we can create some here...
> The moon is the small brother to the sun, as the woman is to all men.
> Only the truthful can know what is untrue.
> I am not a crook. (Oh, wait. That was Nixon...)
>
> Pastorio


A desperate Pastorio is a sad Pastorio.

--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
http://www.heartmdphd.com/
 
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Bob Pastorio wrote:
>
>><anti-Christian rantings snipped>


Nice try, Chung. I guess the new principle is that if anyone
spotlights your fakery, it's suddenly anti-Christian. You're even more
of a sanctimonious fraud than ever. Not an honest bone in your body.

Not an anti-Christian word from me ever. Only anti-phony. Anti-fraud.
Anti-posturing. Anti-charlatanry. You qualify for all them.

> You have my pity for embarrassing yourself.


Thank you for your heartfelt wishes. That was more of that irony you
seem not to grasp.

> I'll pray again on your behalf, "Dear Almighty God, creator of all things seen and unseen,
> please forgive Mr. Pastorio for he knows not what he writes. His hatred is directed at the
> 2 pound diet and me, its author, and not really at You. Give him another chance to accept
> Jesus Christ into his heart. In Jesus' name, I pray. Amen."


There's a small church here that has a little billboard out front. It
says this: "Pray! God knows the details." You're the fool for not
understanding that. You presume to tell God anything He doesn't
already know? You say you're a Christian? How many other things do you
lie about?

Pastorio
 
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

> Bob Pastorio wrote:
>
>
>>Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Self-realization is a beautiful thing filled with truth.

>>
>>Somebody ought to gather up all these empty Chungisms and make a
>>poster or something from them. They have that shining schizophrenic
>>"almost-reality" that Perls and others say marks the condition. They
>>sound like the sort of "wisdom" we come to expect from Pat Morita in
>>all those Karate Kid movies and the whole Kung-Fu genre pictures. That
>>inscrutable sentence that seems like you ought to ponder it.
>>
>>The smart ones spot it for word play that has no meaning. The rest
>>say, "Wow, that's deep." They're the customers for the poster. Hell,
>>make a web site and offer the "Chungism of the day." Doesn't have to
>>make any sense; probably better if it doesn't, just to stay consistent.
>>
>>I bet somebody could make a quick algorithm that could spit these
>>Chungisms out almost as fast as he does. Maybe even try to get some
>>contradictions in there. Use words that everybody already knows, just
>>arrange them in a puzzling way, and in puzzling references.
>>
>>Let's see if we can create some here...
>>The moon is the small brother to the sun, as the woman is to all men.
>>Only the truthful can know what is untrue.
>>I am not a crook. (Oh, wait. That was Nixon...)
>>
>>Pastorio

>
> A desperate Pastorio is a sad Pastorio.


I don't think that's as good as the non sequiturs and generally silly
things you've written in the past. Besides, only a flawed mentality
could find desperation in this level of mockery.

No, Chung. Not a good effort. But do try again. Perhaps you'll grasp
the notion a bit better with more practice.

As if...

Pastorio
 
On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 18:04:30 -0400, Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

> Fencer wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 17:29:42 -0400, Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>>
>>> Jake wrote:
>>>
>>>> I like cheese.
>>>>
>>>> Jake.
>>>
>>> And Fencer believes you are writing truthfully, so according to his logic,
>>> Fencer must be gullible.

>>
>> False logic, Chung.

>
> It's *your* logic. Self-realization is a beautiful thing filled with truth.


You misspelled self-rationalization.

Hope this helps.
 
On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 18:09:50 -0400, Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

> *shrug*, the untruthful simply hate the truth.


So, what exactly IS truth, Chung? How do you know something is true?
 
Ronnie Ruff <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 16:31:13 -0700, M. Schwartz wrote:
>
> > Look who's talking. Afraid to post this under your real name or real
> > e-mail address? Hmmm?

>
> His real name is MU! (Smile).. Ok now tell me why it matters what name
> you post under on USENET? And only an idiot puts his real email out there
> to be sucked up by mail bots.
>
> (Don't get over excited MU, taking up for you will not be a new habit with
> me)
>
> --
> Ronnie Ruff
>
> So shines a good deed in a weary world.
> --***** Wonka--
>
> I pray for the power. To turn it around.
> I'm too old to die young. And too young
> to die now. Warren Zevon 1980
> ----------------------------------------------
> http://www.livejournal.com/users/ronnie_in_dc


The point is WHO this Mu-Mu is and the reason he uses a false name. I
think it's pretty clear who this guy really is and why there are other
mu's out there.

Mel, virus protected...
 
On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 22:11:23 -0400, Bob Pastorio <[email protected]>
wrote:

<nothing worth reading>

Tell us more about that. What part of your diet, as a chef you would
know, what parts of your diet did you in?

Why didn't you exercise since you claim to have known better?

Why did you nearly kill yourself at your own hands?

When will you try to stop smoking?
 
On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 21:35:26 -0400, Bob Pastorio <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Sad to see people deny their true difficulties, especially when they
>try so hard to cast them onto others.


Tell us more about that. What part of your diet, as a chef you would
know, what parts of your diet did you in?

Why didn't you exercise since you claim to have known better?

Why did you nearly kill yourself at your own hands?

When will you try to stop smoking?
 
On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 04:33:18 -0400, Bob Pastorio <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Thank you for your heartfelt wishes. That was more of that irony you
>seem not to grasp.


Tell us more about your near fatal cardiac bypass.. What part of your
diet, as a chef you would know, what parts of your diet did you in?

Why didn't you exercise since you claim to have known better?

Why did you nearly kill yourself at your own hands?

When will you try to stop smoking?
 
On 18 Sep 2003 16:33:41 -0700, [email protected] (M. Schwartz) wrote:

>> Mel, the sooner you let go your need to comprehend the mysteries of
>> God, the quicker you will find your way to faith.

>
>Oh, and which God would that be? Your God?


I don't own Him.

>Mel, not really taking this phony seriously.


Then goodbye.
 
On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 20:27:19 -0400, Ronnie Ruff
<[email protected]> wrote:

>His real name is MU! (Smile).. Ok now tell me why it matters what name
>you post under on USENET? And only an idiot puts his real email out there
>to be sucked up by mail bots.
>
>(Don't get over excited MU, taking up for you will not be a new habit with
>me)


I'm not holding my breath however you are exactly correct about real
names and real idiots.