KH handle with Viscount



nope but everything is pretty nice on it.. the handle is kinda used and
the cover is like new (fusion cover).. and my bolt pattern was moded to
fit a rail adapter.. cauz the normal viscount saddles dont fit the kh
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primus wrote:
> would this work with udc's imitation viscount saddles they now sell
> called "Classic saddles"?


I'm aware that this thread is dead but I'd really like to know the
answer to this as well. I keep snapping my KH stiffener plate and it
seems like this is a cheap solution.


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Brian O. wrote:
> I'm aware that this thread is dead but I'd really like to know the
> answer to this as well. I keep snapping my KH stiffener plate and it
> seems like this is a cheap solution.





Fyi, those metal plates that come in kh saddles aren't made for
stiffening. They bend like butter. They are made to hold the bolts in
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Evan Byrne wrote:
> Fyi, those metal plates that come in kh saddles aren't made for
> stiffening. They bend like butter. They are made to hold the bolts in
> place and to keep them from spinning.



It seems that the only solution for the Street saddle crisis is:
1) After market seat stiffener plate. GB4 makes Miyata plates, but not
KH?
2) Viscount saddle mod (Does the UDC Classic saddle work?)
3) Carbon fibre bases (Which I have recently broken :( )

I'm calling it a "street saddle" crisis, mainly because I can't help
but have the odd bad landing whilst riding street, and when I do land
badly I tend to break any seat which I am using at the time. This does
not happen when I'm riding Trial, Muni, or Freestyle and thus the
current saddle options are fine for these.

I'm curious about the classic saddle now, but I dunno. I have been
thinking about saddles all week, since cracking my CF base and viscount
had actually popped into my mind. I have welded a fairly strong plate
for my KH plastic base which should hold up for a while, but the flex
is disgusting after riding only CF (I don't like riding other peoples
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muzzle wrote:
> I'm calling it a "street saddle" crisis, mainly because I can't help but
> have the odd bad landing whilst riding street, and when I do land badly
> I tend to break any seat which I am using at the time. This does not
> happen when I'm riding Trial, Muni, or Freestyle and thus the current
> saddle options are fine for these.


Same here, and not only does the seat break but the plate on top of the
seatpost bends for me. Would the CrMo post help that much? (I'm
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Brian O. wrote:
> Same here, and not only does the seat break but the plate on top of the
> seatpost bends for me. Would the CrMo post help that much? (I'm
> currently using steel)



Yeah, the cromo are way thicker at the top, and the cromo itself is
much stronger. Highly recommend the upgrade if your killing steel
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muzzle wrote:
> Yeah, the cromo are way thicker at the top, and the cromo itself is much
> stronger. Highly recommend the upgrade if your killing steel posts.


UDC just got in this CrMO post for my size frame, it doesn't look all
that much thicker at the top but it looks like I'll give it a go:
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I was talking to the big KH about the seat situation and how they seem
to be one of the few areas of unicycling lacking any significant recent
innovation, this was his response:



> Regarding your saddle- the main reason that saddles are slow to
> innovate is expense- big changes cost thousands of dollars in tooling
> costs. And unfortunately, you're one of the about 0.1% of people
> that actually break the saddle as it now is- the newsgroup
> notwithstanding, almost 99.9% of people find the saddles strong
> enough. That doesn't mean I'm not working on it though!



It's good to know that we've got the right guy working on it and
hopefully in the not too distant future we will end up with a solid
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primus wrote:
> would this work with udc's imitation viscount saddles they now sell
> called "Classic saddles"?



This is my new Trials/Street seat.

http://tinyurl.com/ynr6pg

I have not tested it extensively, I could also replace the stock bolts
at the front to make it stronger (if the bolts pull from the saddle)

I have made a little essay on the subject on NZUni forums.
If you plan everything well, the modification can be done in under an
hour. When I did this the first time it took more like 2 hours, but
Tony modded one in under an hour.

Here is my essay:
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Awesome! Thanks for going ahead and giving it a shot... let us know how
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Side by side, is the classic noticeably heavier than a kh?


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Evan Byrne wrote:
> Side by side, is the classic noticeably heavier than a kh?



This has the seat listed as 100g heavier. Plus I guess the weight of
the handle.

http://www.unicycle.uk.com/PriceList.asp

There's a whole lot less padding which probably makes up for the
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Evan Byrne wrote:
> Side by side, is the classic noticeably heavier than a kh?



It would have to be heavier than the KH, and the CF I have been so used
to riding. But the fact that it isn't flexy and didn't cost so much $
makes up for that. I will certainly post again when I start to destroy
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muzzle wrote:
> I will certainly post again when I start to destroy it, hopefully it
> keeps working for a while tho.


This is what I want to know, I want to know how well it holds up
compared to the CF base. I was thinking of welding a gusset on the
seatpost which extends beyond the bracket of it at the top to support
the seat. It would be similar to the stiff stick support beam
reinforcement but I think the force would be more evenly distributed.


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like this?

JFoss should be able to tell you more about it.


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> like this?
>
> JFoss should be able to tell you more about it.


Oh yeah, just like that, I wasn't even aware that its been done before.
I didn't think about bolting the handle through it too, thats great to
give it rigidity for when you are pulling up. I wonder how well that
ended up working. I was considering doing one in the back as well that
goes further down the post to keep the post from bending. I need to be
careful with my frame though, its an 06 DX thats already been welded by
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> Oh yeah, just like that, I wasn't even aware that its been done before.
> I didn't think about bolting the handle through it too, thats great to
> give it rigidity for when you are pulling up. I wonder how well that
> ended up working. I was considering doing one in the back as well that
> goes further down the post to keep the post from bending. I need to be
> careful with my frame though, its an 06 DX thats already been welded by
> Torker once.





It works great. Fugeo has made atleast 2 I know, Cody has had like
three and i made one for a freind. It makes the seat 100% flex free,
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> It would have to be heavier than the KH, and the CF I have been so used
> to riding. But the fact that it isn't flexy and didn't cost so much $
> makes up for that. I will certainly post again when I start to destroy
> it, hopefully it keeps working for a while tho.


Hows this holding up Muzzle?


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