Kiddy Trailers

Discussion in 'Australia and New Zealand' started by LotteBum, Sep 9, 2007.

  1. Terryc

    Terryc Guest

    Theo Bekkers wrote:

    > You think there are no hills where I lived? Or do you think I am not
    > familiar with Sydney?


    He is hopeing that none of us are.

    > And yet they outlive us guys by an average of three years.


    It is obvious that he doesn't ride, otherwise he would know the
    advantages of riding slow. {:).

    > No bicycle paths where I went to school Pat.


    He wouldn't understand. He didn't ride a bicycle. It was his father who
    rode a bicycle.

    I suspect that he is now a cripple and his quack has told him to take up
    bicycle riding to get better. He seems to be doing that River in Africa
    stage and trying to apply that unsubstantiated study that says just
    thinking about exercise is as good doing the exercise.

    To top it off, his stories are the same old boring desperate old looser
    ones I've heard over and over again. Really sad that someone his age has
    to resort to that.
     


  2. Theo Bekkers

    Theo Bekkers Guest

    Terryc wrote:
    > Theo Bekkers wrote:


    >> No bicycle paths where I went to school Pat.

    >
    > He wouldn't understand. He didn't ride a bicycle. It was his father
    > who rode a bicycle.
    >
    > I suspect that he is now a cripple and his quack has told him to take
    > up bicycle riding to get better. He seems to be doing that River in
    > Africa stage


    The Zambesi?

    Theo
     
  3. LotteBum

    LotteBum New Member

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    Anyone who still refers to the female population as 'Sheilas' would be hard up getting a root, as is Patrick Turner by the sound of his sh!t.

    Patrick, in case you faile to notice, this is a thread about transporting children on pushbikes, not about your pathetic existence.

    If you have nothing positive, nor relevant to contribute to this thread, I hereby ask you in the nicest way possible to f*ck off.

    :D :D :D :D :D :D
     
  4. Terryc

    Terryc Guest

    Graeme Dods wrote:

    > And a second vote for the tubing outside the wheels. There's bound to
    > be a time when you misjudge your position whilst passing a bollard and
    > clip it slightly[1]. The protection round the wheels means it just has
    > a bit of a skip sideways. Without them I think it would be fairly
    > likely the wheel could stop dead or lift up rather alarmingly.


    So, having stub axles for the wheels is a useless design. Yyou would be
    better off with an upside down Y or V shape that goes around the outside
    of the wheels. So your wheel wouldn't clip something or bounce back,
    but the trailer would slide sideways.
     
  5. Donga

    Donga Guest

    On Sep 11, 9:26 am, LotteBum <[email protected]
    mx.forums.cyclingforums.com> wrote:
    > Dave Wrote:> I think we were using a standard style trailer from around 9 months,
    > > though very carefully. The problem is that the kids are quite upright,
    > > so need to have pretty good neck muscles. That doesn't come until 9-12
    > > months for most kids.

    >
    > Aha. This is a point I had not considered. It's a bit of a bugger
    > though - I thought I'd be getting around and clocking up the k's when I
    > retire (sometime between Christmas and mid February).
    >
    > > Ideally it'd be possible to get something where a car style capsule
    > > would clip in, preferably with some kind of roll cage just in case. I
    > > haven't
    > > seen anything like that around. I've no idea what the standard practice
    > > in
    > > countries where bike transport is more or less standard, but I suspect
    > > it's public transport, lifts and walking.

    >
    > My mum tells me that as soon as I could hold my head up, she put me on
    > the back of her bike with one of those u-shaped neck things aroudn my
    > neck. That said, back then, helmets weren't common, so I didn't have
    > to support that.
    >
    > > Oh, and is there something you're not telling us?

    >
    > Yes. Contrary to popular belief, I am not a virgin.
    >
    > Lotte
    >
    > --
    > LotteBum


    Hey Lotte, I only just noticed this thread. Well done to you and
    Paulie! That will cruel the MTB outings! You were complaining about
    putting on weight, but I was thinking it was too much chockie.

    I had my littlies on a bike seat over the back wheel after they could
    support the weight of their head. Still, it was funny to get the
    "Thunk" on my back when they went to sleep and flopped forward. All
    three loved going out on the bike. One driver told me what I was doing
    was dangerous. What could I say, but that it was only dangerous
    because of him, so could he please care for cyclists?

    Donga
     
  6. Donga

    Donga Guest

    On Sep 12, 8:34 am, BT Humble <[email protected]> wrote:
    > Patrick Turner wrote:
    > > Theo Bekkers wrote:

    >
    > > > Patrick Turner wrote:

    >
    > > > > Back in Ancient Times during the 1950s when I was a youngster, the
    > > > > idea of my mum or my father pedling around
    > > > > Sydney Roads with child trailers behind push bikes would have been
    > > > > utterly impractical and
    > > > > entirely irresponsible because of the dangers of riding on the crowded
    > > > > narrow roads.

    >
    > > > Geez Pat, you come from a family of wimps.

    >
    > > You would say that of course, but wimps we are not.

    >
    > <snip>
    >
    > Dear Pat,
    >
    > Why do you have to write an essay every time you post? When Theo
    > needles you like that, a simple "Oh yeah? Well YOU are!" is more than
    > sufficient.
    >
    > Concisely yours,
    >
    > BTH


    There was some pithy stuff in the above essays. Toughen up, BTH ;-)
     
  7. Terryc wrote:
    >
    > Theo Bekkers wrote:
    >
    > > You think there are no hills where I lived? Or do you think I am not
    > > familiar with Sydney?

    >
    > He is hopeing that none of us are.
    >
    > > And yet they outlive us guys by an average of three years.

    >
    > It is obvious that he doesn't ride, otherwise he would know the
    > advantages of riding slow. {:).
    >
    > > No bicycle paths where I went to school Pat.

    >
    > He wouldn't understand. He didn't ride a bicycle. It was his father who
    > rode a bicycle.
    >
    > I suspect that he is now a cripple and his quack has told him to take up
    > bicycle riding to get better. He seems to be doing that River in Africa
    > stage and trying to apply that unsubstantiated study that says just
    > thinking about exercise is as good doing the exercise.
    >
    > To top it off, his stories are the same old boring desperate old looser
    > ones I've heard over and over again. Really sad that someone his age has
    > to resort to that.
     
  8. Donga wrote:
    >
    > On Sep 12, 8:34 am, BT Humble <[email protected]> wrote:
    > > Patrick Turner wrote:
    > > > Theo Bekkers wrote:

    > >
    > > > > Patrick Turner wrote:

    > >
    > > > > > Back in Ancient Times during the 1950s when I was a youngster, the
    > > > > > idea of my mum or my father pedling around
    > > > > > Sydney Roads with child trailers behind push bikes would have been
    > > > > > utterly impractical and
    > > > > > entirely irresponsible because of the dangers of riding on the crowded
    > > > > > narrow roads.

    > >
    > > > > Geez Pat, you come from a family of wimps.

    > >
    > > > You would say that of course, but wimps we are not.

    > >
    > > <snip>
    > >
    > > Dear Pat,
    > >
    > > Why do you have to write an essay every time you post? When Theo
    > > needles you like that, a simple "Oh yeah? Well YOU are!" is more than
    > > sufficient.
    > >
    > > Concisely yours,
    > >
    > > BTH

    >
    > There was some pithy stuff in the above essays. Toughen up, BTH ;-)


    I write an essay sometimes in replies to expand the range of
    discussions.

    It rarely works to expand anything, and I get all this shite in return,
    because the shiters don't know how to string more than two words
    together,
    or are unable to focus attention for longer than 2 seconds.

    To every factoid about cycling as a means of transport there is a
    surrounding list
    of relevant history and salient facts. I enjoy reasons about WHY some
    things are done.

    I try to deal with ppl firmly and fairly. Theo and other rather negative
    knocker types
    who lurk here don't really worry me. Theo was the one who remarked all
    the cycle paths here
    in the ACT should be ploughed up and grassed over. He illustrates that
    he is somewhat barmy.
    He knows and the group knows, and any reading politician knows exactly
    how I'd like the politicians
    in relation to cycle travel in the ACT. What Theo says is of zero
    concern to me at least, because luckily
    the politicians practice policies largely entirely friendly and
    sympathetic to what I have spelled out
    about cyclists' amenities.
    The system the pollies have implemented isn't perfect, and nothing ever
    is, but used with care the
    cycle paths remove completely any worry anyone has with being run down
    by a motorist.

    For me, cycling is only a part of life, not the whole of life, and how
    and why cycling fits into lifestyles
    is relevant material which I don't mind seeing ppl debate.

    I always get a lift when folks complain about my long posts.

    But they read every syllable right to the end though eh.

    They just can't be nice to people they like.

    Patrick Turner.
     
  9. BT Humble

    BT Humble Guest

    Donga wrote:
    > On Sep 12, 8:34 am, BT Humble <[email protected]> wrote:
    > > <snip>

    >
    > > Dear Pat,

    >
    > > Why do you have to write an essay every time you post? When Theo
    > > needles you like that, a simple "Oh yeah? Well YOU are!" is more than
    > > sufficient.

    >
    > > Concisely yours,

    >
    > > BTH

    >
    > There was some pithy stuff in the above essays. Toughen up, BTH ;-)


    Sorry Donga.


    Chastened BTH
     
  10. Resound

    Resound Guest

    "Theo Bekkers" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > BT Humble wrote:
    >> Patrick Turner wrote:
    >>> Theo Bekkers wrote:

    >
    >>>> Geez Pat, you come from a family of wimps.
    >>>
    >>> You would say that of course, but wimps we are not.

    >>
    >> <snip>
    >>
    >> Dear Pat,
    >>
    >> Why do you have to write an essay every time you post? When Theo
    >> needles you like that, a simple "Oh yeah? Well YOU are!" is more than
    >> sufficient.

    >
    > What? Me needle? I feel insulted now.
    >
    > Theo
    > :)
    >
    >


    Oh yeah? Well YOU...are...umm

    That's not as effective as I'd hoped.
     
  11. Resound

    Resound Guest

    "Resound" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    >
    > "Theo Bekkers" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    >> BT Humble wrote:
    >>> Patrick Turner wrote:
    >>>> Theo Bekkers wrote:

    >>
    >>>>> Geez Pat, you come from a family of wimps.
    >>>>
    >>>> You would say that of course, but wimps we are not.
    >>>
    >>> <snip>
    >>>
    >>> Dear Pat,
    >>>
    >>> Why do you have to write an essay every time you post? When Theo
    >>> needles you like that, a simple "Oh yeah? Well YOU are!" is more than
    >>> sufficient.

    >>
    >> What? Me needle? I feel insulted now.
    >>
    >> Theo
    >> :)
    >>
    >>

    >
    > Oh yeah? Well YOU...are...umm
    >
    > That's not as effective as I'd hoped.
    >


    No, no I've got it now..

    ahem

    Oh yeah? Well you ARE!


    (It's all about emphasis)
     
  12. Resound

    Resound Guest

    "Theo Bekkers" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > Terryc wrote:
    >> Theo Bekkers wrote:

    >
    >>> No bicycle paths where I went to school Pat.

    >>
    >> He wouldn't understand. He didn't ride a bicycle. It was his father
    >> who rode a bicycle.
    >>
    >> I suspect that he is now a cripple and his quack has told him to take
    >> up bicycle riding to get better. He seems to be doing that River in
    >> Africa stage

    >
    > The Zambesi?
    >
    > Theo


    The Congo.
     
  13. Resound

    Resound Guest

    "LotteBum" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    >
    > Anyone who still refers to the female population as 'Sheilas' would be
    > hard up getting a root, as is Patrick Turner by the sound of his sh!t.
    >
    > Patrick, in case you faile to notice, this is a thread about
    > transporting children on pushbikes, not about your pathetic existence.
    >
    >
    > If you have nothing positive, nor relevant to contribute to this
    > thread, I hereby ask you in the nicest way possible to f*ck off.
    >
    > :D :D :D :D :D :D
    >
    >
    > --
    > LotteBum
    >


    Don't mince words Lotte, tell us what you really think. :)
     
  14. SMS

    SMS Guest

    Graeme Dods wrote:
    > On Sep 12, 4:05 am, SMS <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> Avoid any trailer
    >> that doesn't have the aluminum tubing around the outside of the wheels,
    >> i.e. the new Burley d'Lite is no good.

    >
    > And a second vote for the tubing outside the wheels. There's bound to
    > be a time when you misjudge your position whilst passing a bollard and
    > clip it slightly[1]. The protection round the wheels means it just has
    > a bit of a skip sideways. Without them I think it would be fairly
    > likely the wheel could stop dead or lift up rather alarmingly.
    >
    > Graeme
    >
    > [1] Or so I've heard, apparently, never happened to me of course, no
    > never :-o


    LOL, I've seen it happen, and it's happened to me.

    It's a damn shame what happened to Burley, not only the decontenting of
    the trailers, but the discontinuation of the Piccolo, and the Kidback
    (child tandem adapter). As I understand it they were close to going
    under, and someone bought the company, and discontinued every product
    other than trailers, and cheapened the design of the trailers.

    While the Schwinn Mark III is no doubt made in China, the design looks
    similar to the older Burley d'Lite. Probably not as clever a hitch though.
     
  15. LotteBum

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    Ha, I actually lost a bit in the first trimester (2.5kg to be precise - feeling like sh!t will do that to you), but I've gained a bit of that again. I'm only 14 weeks, so you still can't tell. I'm only just beginning to notice myself (pants a little tight, abs feeling like they actually exist etc.).

    Oh, and as for the mtb outings, they're still on. We're riding this Saturday. I'll text you.

    Nice one! Heh!!

    LH
     
  16. Theo Bekkers

    Theo Bekkers Guest

    LotteBum wrote:

    > For a bloke, you know an awful lot about being stretchy, Theo. I'm
    > worried about you.


    I come from a large and still growing family. My parents arrived here with
    seven children in 1953 and, at the family reunion in 2004, 115 people turned
    up, all direct descendants and their partners.

    Obviously a few couldn't make it.

    I told my dad a few years ago that the population of Australia has more than
    doubled since the Bekkers family arrived. :)

    Theo
     
  17. LotteBum

    LotteBum New Member

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    I hope you're not the only one out of those who rides bikes :)
     
  18. Theo Bekkers

    Theo Bekkers Guest

    LotteBum wrote:
    > Theo Bekkers Wrote:


    >> I told my dad a few years ago that the population of Australia has
    >> more than doubled since the Bekkers family arrived. :)


    > I hope you're not the only one out of those who rides bikes :)


    My dad's brothers were road-racers (I never knew them, all three did not
    survive the war), my older brother got cautioned for speeding once by the
    local copper, my younger brother rode his track bike everywhere (he could
    lock up the wheel with the pedals when he wanted to stop in a hurry). My son
    and I once did a 300 km weekend ride. My daughter has a Terry because she is
    very short. In case you're not familiar with them, a Terry has a 700 rear
    wheel and a 24" front. This allows you to have a proper frame and gearing
    with the small front wheel giving you some headstem depth. My personal daily
    best was 210 kms. Unfortunately there is nowhere to go from where I live
    now, the 'local' shop is 10 klicks with a 50 metre climb and a 100 metre
    drop in the first (or last on the way back) thre kms, so I'm getting fat.

    Theo
     
  19. Kingsley

    Kingsley Guest

    On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 16:16:11 +1000, LotteBum wrote:


    > My problem, however, is that most say you should not use these for child
    > carrying purposes until the child is 12 months old, as they run the risk
    > of suffering from shaken baby syndrome prior to this. I find this
    > absurd.
    > [...]
    > Does anyone have any advice regarding this?


    I would (and did) heed this advice.

    Weens don't have the neck strength to stop their head bobbing around.
    (think of a dash-board bobbing elvis)

    But this is a product of the upright sitting position. I've seen photos
    of people using a trailer to carry a baby in a car-capsule. I don't have
    any fundamental ill-regard for this, so as long and the capsule is
    strapped in too.

    I've towed various kids in the trailer, all of them 1-year onwards.
    Used it this morning to drop ~35kg of kids off at school, and then
    pre-school. Taken it on largeish bicycle tours too, the trailer is the
    best choice for perambulating your weens by far.

    In some other threads, people have mentioned that trailers with
    non-surrounded wheels are dangerous. Based on me *never* having
    an accident the way they describe (clipping something between
    the wheel and trailer body) over 7 years of pulling the trailer,
    I don't feel this is a big risk. You very quickly learn how wide
    your trailer is, especially if you negotiate the same paths more
    often than not.

    I have flipped the trailer once - when it was empty. This does not have
    anything to do with whether the wheels are within a cage or not. If you
    take a gutter at speed, and catch one wheel on the 'ramp' where the flat
    becomes square-section gutter again, it will flip. More easily with less
    weight too.

    FWIW, our trailer is a Trek Transit, the lower-end model. I read
    somewhere that this these are (were?) a licenced design from Chariot brand
    trailers. The only issue I have with the trailer, is that sandy gumboots
    and shoes tend to prematurely wear-out the fabric floor of the cockpit.
    We're due for our 3rd re-skin soon, and this time I'll put in a car-mat or
    something.

    Feel free to email me directly for specific questions.

    Oh, and there's a huge writeup on trailer pros & cons in the FAQ.

    cheers,
    -kt


    --
    Kingsley Turner,
    http://MadDogsBreakfast.com/ABFAQ - news:aus.bicycle Frequenly Asked Questions
     
  20. LotteBum

    LotteBum New Member

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    Thanks a bunch Kingsley. Had a look at the FAQ and it's very informative. Much appreciate it.
     
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