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> On 31 Jan 2004 07:01:03 -0800,
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> >Justin Lewis <
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> >news:<
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> >> On 30 Jan 2004 19:49:50 -0800,
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> >>
> >> >Justin Lewis <
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> >> >news:<
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> >> >> On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 17:37:34 +0800, "Tom Potter" <
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> >> >>
> >> >> Hello Tom,
> >> >>
> >> >> Why did you post this message in a group which is devoted to issues related to bicycling?
> >> >>
> >> >> Second, upon what do you base the assertion that the German people are perhaps the most
> >> >> intelligent, moral and productive people on earth? Is the average IQ in Germany higher that
> >> >> that of other countries, and if so, does the superior morality and productivity flow
> >> >> automatically from that "fact"?
> >> >>
> >> >> >Considering that the German people are perhaps the most intelligent, moral, productive
> >> >> >people on Earth, would you like to discuss why the German people turned to strong leaders
> >> >> >when a small group of people were instigating class wars all over the Earth during the
> >> >> >1900's?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Considering that "Trish" asserts that she is speaking for the rational, intelligent, MORAL
> >> >> >folks, I trust she will engage in an honest, moral, open debate on the issue of instigating
> >> >> >conflict and war for power and riches, rather than engage in childish, low class, insults.
> >> >
> >> >Well Justin Lewis, first off, if you look at the thread, I was just replying to the posts in
> >> >the thread.
> >>
> >> Your answer suggests that you are exonerated from any onus to base anything you write upon any
> >> evidence so long as it is not the first posting in a thread. Thank you for this clear statement
> >> regarding the cogency of the assertion that Germans are more intelligent than other
> >> nationalities.
> >>
> >> >And secondly, if you disapproved of me posting in this thread, why did you take issue with my
> >> >statem,ent that the "German people are> perhaps the most intelligent, moral and productive
> >> >people on earth.", and ask me to comment on it?
> >> >
> >> >Why don't you be honest and fair, and chastize the source of the problem, rather than pick a
> >> >post at random?
> >> >
> >> >It might appear to rational, intelligent, open-minded folks, that you were prejudice against
> >> >Germans, or had another ax to grind, by your actions, rather than that you were objecting to
> >> >an off topic post.
> >> I chose to react because I have several German friends who would welcome evidence supporting
> >> their superior intellect: however I can offer them no evidence and it appears that you also
> >> lack evidence for this assertion. It is certainly not an unfavourable based upon inadequate
> >> facts (prejudice) on my behalf to suggest that Germans are not the most intelligent people on
> >> earth but equally intelligent as any other nationality.
> >>
> >> Your title is "Kill The Jews". As a Jew, I felt that some response was justified even though
> >> the posting was off-topic.
> >
> >
> >First off, as I indicated, the title "Kill The Jews" was not mine. In fcat it could have weel
> >been posted by a Jew who was trying to stir up conflict.
>
> Perhaps that is my mistake, although a link to your website does appear at the bottom of the
> initial posting.
> >Secondly, why would you, as a Jew,
> >
> >be motivated to respond to a post that suggested that the German people, "are perhaps the most
> >intelligent, moral, productive people on Earth"?
> I was motivated by the title of the thread, not by the groundless assertion that Germans are in
> some way more intelligent than other nationalities. In order to counter the tenor of the title I
> chose the statement which most resembles a fact and asked for proof. Your inablility to provide
> anything other than fanciful vitriol and rhetoric on supposed point of fact must render the rest
> of your content worthless. Where is your evidence for the statement?
> >As can be seen by their contributions to society, their morality, and how they are welcomed as
> >good neighbors whereever they live in the world, it seems that this is a correct statement.
> This can be said of many nationalities: the Dutch, Belgians, Spanish, English etc.
> >Even the Romans, admired the morality, the bravery, and the culture of the Germans, when they
> >were trying to add them to their empire.
> >
> >And of course, the Germans were the main force acting against the people who were instigating the
> >class wars of the 1900's, and as shown by history, if FDR had joined with the German people, and
> >gone after the class war instigators, rather than getting in bed with them, WWII would have
> >lasted two months, and there would have been no Cold War, no Korean War, no Vietnam, etc. Note
> >that after FDR died, America did a 180, and begand to oppose the people who were instigating the
> >class wars, the very people the German people were opposed to. And note, that even now, the
> >German people are opposed to the people who are trying to instigate the religious wars of the
> >2000's.
> If FDR, or for that matter Churchil, had joined with the German people, would that have included
> the tacit approval of the anti-semitism whipped by ****** in the thirties and co-operation in the
> hollocaust by the Allies?
As can be seen by studying history with an open mind, a small group of people were instigating
conflict and war for power and riches, during the 1900's.
The German people, and peolpe in many other nations recognized the threat, and began to oppose these
instigators. As the instigators were breaking up the meetings of political opponents, creating
violence to folks at political rallies, and assassinating and bribing political leaders, the plain
folks in some nations, such as Germany had to turn to strong leaders, in order to prevent the
instigators of conflict and war from detroying their nations and societies.
As can be seen, FDR and Churchill sold out to the war-for-profit instigators, just as Bush and Blair
have, and assisted them in their effort to create havoc, and profit from it.
If FDR had taken a stand against the people who were instigating the class wars, WWII would have
lasted two months, and there would have been no Cold War, no Korean war, no Viatnam War, and the
instigators would not be trying to instigate the religious wars of the 2000's, and there would have
been no 911, no Afganistan War, no war aginst the Iraqi people, and no loss or freedoms to
Americans.
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Tom Potter