Kohl has balls afterall

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  1. Grater

    Grater New Member

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    Apparently Kohl has named names.

    That's the rumour going around at the moment.

    And from that, comes this.

    The International Cycling Union (UCI) announced that it will be taking disciplinary action against an undisclosed number of professional riders whose biological passports have shown abnormal results, at a press conference in Paris on Wednesday.

    "The riders will be informed early next week," said UCI president Pat McQuaid, according to AFP. "We will inform their teams and national federations. We will [then] name the riders and will start disciplinary proceedings against them."

    McQuaid did not reveal the names of the riders involved nor the teams effected. Sources within the UCI have indicated that the names of riders could emerge on Monday of next week.

    McQuaid went on to explain that the UCI would not itself be suspending the named riders, instead leaving it to teams to decide what action should be taken immediately against their riders. "There will be no provisional suspension. It will be up to the teams to decide what they do," said McQuaid.

    The UCI president also revealed that riders in next months Tour de France will face the biggest anti-doping army ever seen at a major sports event.

    AFP reported that improved relations between the UCI and the various anti-doping agencies will ensure the most comprehensive testing procedures in cycling's history. "The Tour de France in 2009 will probably be the most tested sports event in history," McQuaid said.

    "Our [the UCI and testing agency AFLD] collaboration at the Paris-Nice race (in March) worked extremely well, we continued discussions and came up with an anti-doping programme leading up to and through the 2009 TDF," added McQuaid.

    "During the race we will do three to four hundred tests. Tour officials have provided us with a long list of riders likely to be racing the Tour."

    The news comes just a day after rider Antonio Colom, was suspended by his team, Russian squad Team Katusha. The Spaniard returned a positive test for the banned blood agent EPO. The rider is currently awaiting the results of testing on his B-sample. (RT)
     
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  2. Cobblestones

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    Bio passport working?? I believe it when I see it.

    Now Kohl naming names could be interesting.

    I think the UCI tries to deflect attention away from Kohl who said that testing in most cases gives false negatives and the bio passport is more helpful for dopers than anything else.
     
  3. jhuskey

    jhuskey Moderator

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    Good, now if Mc Quaid could grow some balls.
     
  4. limerickman

    limerickman Moderator

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    I read this report and if Bernard Kohl is going to name names, the very least he should expect is support from the UCI.
    There lies the nub of the problem.

    Has the UCI engaged with the likes of Manzano, for example, after he went public?
    If the UCI were really interested in resolving the doping problem - they would be encouraging those found to be guilty, to speak publicly.
    The UCI should, if it's interested in combaing doping (as it says it is), should practically knocking down Kohl (and other riders who wish to name names) to speak to them in order to buildup a database of information about avoidance methods used/trafficking methods used etc.
    That's if they were interested of course.

    Kohl has two choices : he can either stay quiet and wait until his ban expires to get back in the peloton (ie Basso) or he can talk now and probably never get back in to the peloton.
     
  5. poulidor

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    Bordry has already stated that he wanted to met Kohl. He is very interested so probably Bordry wants to link le list of name of Kohl and their testing (current and the old results).
    McQuaid is more on fire than in the past, the old lies are still not working and the coming books on doping will be an another difficult col for him and his accomplices.
     
  6. limerickman

    limerickman Moderator

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    Well that is good that someone is prepared to talk to Kohl.
     
  7. swampy1970

    swampy1970 Well-Known Member

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    How does "spilling the beans" about who's taking stuff, take balls when you've already retired and announced you'll never ride again?
     
  8. kennf

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    Because (1) you're not seeking any quid pro quo (i.e. getting a lighter suspension), and (2) you risk being sued.
     
  9. limerickman

    limerickman Moderator

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    Kohl is a young guy.
    I hope that any decision that he has decided to make - is the correct one.

    It's easy in the heat of the moment to decide to make a definitive statement like "I'm retiring".
    And especially when you'e younger it's hard to appreciate just how much you might miss something later in life.
     
  10. mrfrogger

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    Agreed, his window of opportunity may be longer than say a tennis player, but it's still short. If nothing else, his willingness to break omerta, shows strength of character. I hope he, and all the others that fall by the wayside, have something to fall back on. If doping is as rife as he suggests (it is) it's pointless to demonise the few that get caught.
     
  11. slovakguy

    slovakguy Active Member

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    anybody else curious about how mcquaid, pound and gripper are going to spin the latest from kohl and his manager? seems that some wada lab workers have some complicity in these doping matters. wondering who else might have been paying for a bit of assistance.

    Kohl Confirms Manager Bribed Anti-doping Labs | Cyclingnews.com
     
  12. jimmypop

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    Bribing the labs. If Kohl was doing it, it certainly raises the question of which riders with more resources were doing it.
     
  13. Cobblestones

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    Not precisely bribing the labs. Just letting them analyze samples to see how far they could go without getting a positive. But yeah, it's pretty bad.
     
  14. swampy1970

    swampy1970 Well-Known Member

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    No, the newspaper reported that there were WADA accredited labs in those places listed but didn't say that they were used but they did say that Kohls' manager used labs in Central Europe. However, it doesn't take a WADA accredited lab to carry out blood work.
     
  15. slovakguy

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    granted there are many labs which can run these tests, but

    "Kohl confirms manager bribed anti-doping labs"
     
  16. bicycledick

    bicycledick New Member

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    Sounds like these politicians when they retire and then tell people who rule the world. But it was Ok while they were on the pay.
     
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