Kool Stop Rim Strip Replacement?

[daveornee]

Kool Stop is not making Rim Strip/Tape any more.
Velox absorbs water, but seems to be most available.
What is a high quality rim strip/tape that is available to replace Kool Stop?

David Ornee, Western Springs, IL

 

[richard]

That the Velox absorbs water is not an issue to most of the world. They
seem to last forever. Go with 'em!

daveornee wrote:
> Kool Stop is not making Rim Strip/Tape any more.
> Velox absorbs water, but seems to be most available.
> What is a high quality rim strip/tape that is available to replace Kool
> Stop?
>
> David Ornee, Western Springs, IL
>
>

 

[Tom Sherman]

daveornee wrote:

> Kool Stop is not making Rim Strip/Tape any more.
> Velox absorbs water, but seems to be most available.
> What is a high quality rim strip/tape that is available to replace Kool
> Stop?

3M filament reinforced strapping tape.

--
Tom Sherman - Earth

 

[Matt O'Toole]

dianne_1234 wrote:

> Is Velox made from a fiber that absorbs moisture? Or does the water
> accumulate in the fiber interstices (sp?)?

Maybe but it doesn't seem to matter.

Matt O.

 

[Wheels by BFWG]

Use the green ones, they're rated for high pressure and have never had one
split like the yellow always did. They're still a ***** to remove once
installed, but work best that I've tried. . . even better than Velox. . .



"Arthur Harris" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "A Muzi" wrote:
>
> > Michelin rim liners are quite thin ( we like that) and don't hold water
>
> Are those the yellow plastic ones? I used those years ago and they always
> split at the spoke holes from the pressure. Have they improved?
>
> Art Harris
>
>

 

[A Muzi]

> "A Muzi" wrote:
>>Michelin rim liners are quite thin ( we like that) and don't hold water

Arthur Harris wrote:
> Are those the yellow plastic ones? I used those years ago and they always
> split at the spoke holes from the pressure. Have they improved?


Yes. They are green now.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

 

[A Muzi]

>>>Kool Stop is not making Rim Strip/Tape any more. Velox absorbs
>>>water, but seems to be most available. What is a high quality rim
>>>strip/tape that is available to replace Kool Stop?

> Tom Sherman writes:
>>3M filament reinforced strapping tape.

[email protected] wrote:
> This type of tape may have great tensile strength but it has two major
> flaws that make it unsuitable for this service. It has practically no
> transverse strength allowing it to split lengthwise easily, and its
> adhesive and backing oxidize relatively rapidly so that it degrades
> into a mess of parallel fibers. Brake heating of the rim accelerates
> this deterioration.

Yes, any bicycle mechanic will affirm that the stuff
degrades rapidly.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

 

[A Muzi]

> On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 02:52:57 +1100, daveornee
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>Kool Stop is not making Rim Strip/Tape any more.
>>Velox absorbs water, but seems to be most available.
>>What is a high quality rim strip/tape that is available to replace Kool
>>Stop?

dianne_1234 wrote:
> Is Velox made from a fiber that absorbs moisture? Or does the water
> accumulate in the fiber interstices (sp?)?

Velox are cotton

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

 

[James Thomson]

"daveornee" <[email protected]> wrote:

> What is a high quality rim strip/tape that is available to replace
> Kool Stop?

I think Kool Stop was a non-adhesive polyurethane tape, no?

Schwalbe make something similar in various diameters and widths. It's more
pliable than the Michelin tape, and doesn't have its tendency to split.

Panaracer Polylite is another.

Nashbar list a polyurethane rim strip.

Bike Ribbon make a woven, non-adhesive plastic rim strip that's thin,
tough, and non-absorbent:

http://www.bikeribbon.com/product_detail.php?product=d&subprod=a

I'll leave you to investigate US availability.

James Thomson

 

[Robin Hubert]

daveornee wrote:
> Kool Stop is not making Rim Strip/Tape any more.
> Velox absorbs water, but seems to be most available.
> What is a high quality rim strip/tape that is available to replace Kool
> Stop?
>
> David Ornee, Western Springs, IL
>
>

Try http://www.salsacycles.com/comps_tubes.html

Robin Hubert

 

[[email protected]]

When without I use pvc tape,3 or so times around the rim
works out just fine.

 

[Boyle M. Owl]

Tom Sherman wrote:
> daveornee wrote:
>
>> Kool Stop is not making Rim Strip/Tape any more.
>> Velox absorbs water, but seems to be most available.
>> What is a high quality rim strip/tape that is available to replace Kool
>> Stop?
>
>
> 3M filament reinforced strapping tape.
>

<slashdot>

+5 informative

</slashdot>

--
BMO

 

[Boyle M. Owl]

Tom Sherman wrote:

> daveornee wrote:
>
>> Kool Stop is not making Rim Strip/Tape any more.
>> Velox absorbs water, but seems to be most available.
>> What is a high quality rim strip/tape that is available to replace Kool
>> Stop?
>
>
>
> 3M filament reinforced strapping tape.
>

Also, fold it in half lengthwise, instead of using the adhesive to bond
it to the rim. Use a hole punch on each end (overlap) for the valve
stem and use a half inch of adhesive back to tack it to the rim at the
overlap.

--
BMO

 

[stircrazysavant]

I agree, but if a layer of electrical tape is put down first, then the
filament tape, it works.

 

[stircrazysavant]

Thin rim liners (especially durable ones) can make fitting many of
today's high pressure clinchers an easier task, especially as a shop
who repeats the process constantly. I once measured a very thin nylon
rim strip (Rox), and a thick Velox cotton rim strip around their
respective circumferences. I came up with a 1/4 inch difference in
length. While this makes little difference once the tire is installed,
going to a thinner durable strip may ease installation. It's too bad
that most modern clincher tires are hard enough to fit, but then have
had a semi-recent streak of blowing off of rims, and max pressures are
sinking down into the 100psi range for racing tires. Didn't seem to be
a problem pre-silica rubber compound. Mike Knudsen

 

[Bill Bushnell]

Tom Sherman <[email protected]> wrote:
> Matt O'Toole wrote:
> If you have a small wheel bike (particularly with caliper brakes) the
> number of suitable tires available can be counted on the fingers of one
> hand (especially if it is something like the ISO 355-mm "Birdy" or ISO
> 369-mm "Moulton" size).
> --
> Tom Sherman - Earth

Gaffers tape works O.K. and won't disintegrate like packing tape, but
it won't work as well and you'll need to replace it more frequently
than a proper rim strip such as Velox. It will drift in the rim bed
with time and repeated heat, but it's quite thin and makes easier
mounting and unmounting tight-fitting tires.

I find gaffers tape at the local OSH (Orchard Supply Hardware) in
black, or in other colors at a local theater equipment dealer. This
stuff works well in other applications where you need a sturdy sticky
tape (like duct tape) but without the clean-up mess.

--
Bill Bushnell
http://pobox.com/~bushnell/

 

[Matt O'Toole]

Bill Bushnell wrote:

> Tom Sherman <[email protected]> wrote:

>> Matt O'Toole wrote:
>> If you have a small wheel bike (particularly with caliper brakes) the
>> number of suitable tires available can be counted on the fingers of
>> one hand (especially if it is something like the ISO 355-mm "Birdy"
>> or ISO 369-mm "Moulton" size).

> Gaffers tape works O.K. and won't disintegrate like packing tape, but
> it won't work as well and you'll need to replace it more frequently
> than a proper rim strip such as Velox. It will drift in the rim bed
> with time and repeated heat, but it's quite thin and makes easier
> mounting and unmounting tight-fitting tires.
>
> I find gaffers tape at the local OSH (Orchard Supply Hardware) in
> black, or in other colors at a local theater equipment dealer. This
> stuff works well in other applications where you need a sturdy sticky
> tape (like duct tape) but without the clean-up mess.

You can find Velox at any bike shop. Enough to do two rims costs less than a
roll of gaffers' tape from OSH, and it lasts practically forever. If you need
gaffers' tape for other things and have it laying around then fine, use it until
you can get some Velox.

I've had luck with heavy duty sail repair tape, but the usual stuff is too thin
and fragile, and creeps away from the holes too. This is what Ritchey rim tape
is, and it sucks. The heavy duty stuff is very expensive, I just happened to
have a bunch laying around.

Another nice thing about Velox is that it conforms to the shape of the rim bed.
This allows a healthy overlap up the sides of the rim a little, so the spoke
holes never become exposed.

I understand wanting a thinner rim tape if your tires have a marginal fit, being
too tight to get on/off easily. But obsessing over rim tape is barking up the
wrong tree. Just get some tires that fit -- there are plenty available. Being
able to fix tires easily on the road can be an important safety factor. Heading
out with marginal equipment is foolhardy.

Matt O.