Lance Armstrong to open bike shop



http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2008/mar08/mar14news

"
Armstrong will cater to serious road racers with top end Trek bikes,
similar to those Armstrong rode on his seven consecutive Tour de
France victories, but also wants the shop to have wide appeal. He has
plans to sell mountain bikes, commuter bikes, fixed wheels, low
riders, handmade one-offs, and triathlon bikes.
"

I wonder if he'll be a dealer for bikes with legendary ride quality
like these:
http://www.lemondbikes.com/
 
On Mar 14, 1:49 am, Donald Munro <[email protected]> wrote:
> zzfranklin wrote:
> > I wonder if he'll be a dealer for bikes with legendary ride quality like
> > these:
> >http://www.lemondbikes.com/



That Lemond 'Sarthe' with the True Temper OX Steel frame
is one sweet bike. Only wish it was built with something
more like Dedacciai SAT 14.5 tubing.
 
On Mar 14, 4:24 am, [email protected] wrote:
> http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2008/mar08/mar14news
>
> "
> Armstrong will cater to serious road racers with top end Trek bikes,
> similar to those Armstrong rode on his seven consecutive Tour de
> France victories, but also wants the shop to have wide appeal. He has
> plans to sell mountain bikes, commuter bikes, fixed wheels, low
> riders, handmade one-offs, and triathlon bikes.
> "


Any store that tries to do everything cycling-wise (commuters, racers,
mtn., low-riders ?) ends up sucking at everything.
 
If Lance is smart he won't run the shop or hire a consultant. Racing
and running a bike shop are different realms. One big advantage that
Lance has is that he actually rides a bike. I was always amazed at how
few people in the bike industry ride a bike. Most people in the bike
business don't ride at all. Another problem is that there is far to
little interaction between bicycle racing and bike business.


On Mar 14, 1:24 am, [email protected] wrote:
> http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2008/mar08/mar14news
>
> "
> Armstrong will cater to serious road racers with top end Trek bikes,
> similar to those Armstrong rode on his seven consecutive Tour de
> France victories, but also wants the shop to have wide appeal. He has
> plans to sell mountain bikes, commuter bikes, fixed wheels, low
> riders, handmade one-offs, and triathlon bikes.
> "
>
> I wonder if he'll be a dealer for bikes with legendary ride quality
> like these:http://www.lemondbikes.com/
 
Bruce Gilbert wrote:
> I read a book called "The New Wellness Revolution" which had a

strong effect
> on me. I now believe that in order for the bike business to really take off
> in this country, it has to be bound up with adult wellness somehow. Bike
> shops are not projecting or reinforcing that image very well and neither are
> the bike manufacturers. How many bike company websites have a weight
> loss/control program on their websites, or in the info packet?
>
> Bruce


Terry just did a webcast on weight control and biking and they've posted
it on their website.

http://www.terrybicycles.com/seminar.html

I haven't watched it by my wife did. It was originally broadcast live
and they got so many more folks trying to log on than they'd planned for
that the server crashed.
Of course Terry's for girls so it would have little effect on what guys
want.

David
 
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:b7c5223a-76d6-48f0-94fe-ae4f27bdad5a@s37g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> If Lance is smart he won't run the shop or hire a consultant. Racing
> and running a bike shop are different realms. One big advantage that
> Lance has is that he actually rides a bike. I was always amazed at how
> few people in the bike industry ride a bike. Most people in the bike
> business don't ride at all. Another problem is that there is far to
> little interaction between bicycle racing and bike business.
>
>

Most of the older folks in the bike business, who are the real players, are
a bit older than the racing crowd. The same phenomenon is true for a large
percentage of the people with the disposable income to buy the top end race
bikes. I believe your comment about most people in the bike business don't
ride is valid, to a degree. Most of us ride as much as they can. This exact
observation was very much on my mind during the last Interbike. I would
leave our booth to cruise the show and did observe how many wide-body
participants were in the aisles and behind the tables.

I read a book called "The New Wellness Revolution" which had a strong effect
on me. I now believe that in order for the bike business to really take off
in this country, it has to be bound up with adult wellness somehow. Bike
shops are not projecting or reinforcing that image very well and neither are
the bike manufacturers. How many bike company websites have a weight
loss/control program on their websites, or in the info packet? I wonder if
it is even practical in terms of liability, economics, etc.? Wouldn't it be
interesting if cycling based weight-loss programs started showing up in bike
shops. Race training information abounds in the bike world. Weight-loss and
wellness would be broader based and have a more universal appeal. There are
enough experts and good writers in this newsgroup alone, for a few folks to
put their minds together in order to form an effective company. Anyone
interested? If nothing else it would make a great marketing story...

I did recently see that the LAB has formed some sort of relationship with
AARP. Also, I have heard that there is a bike tour company somewhere that
does bus tours for retirees. They seem to hit a lot of the organized rides
around the country. That could be the start of low-cost wellness-oriented
vacationing. Interesting idea...

Bruce
 
Bruce Gilbert wrote:
> "David B." <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Bruce Gilbert wrote:
>> > I read a book called "The New Wellness Revolution" which had a

>> strong effect
>>> on me. I now believe that in order for the bike business to really take

> off
>>> in this country, it has to be bound up with adult wellness somehow. Bike
>>> shops are not projecting or reinforcing that image very well and neither

> are
>>> the bike manufacturers. How many bike company websites have a weight
>>> loss/control program on their websites, or in the info packet?
>>>
>>> Bruce

>> Terry just did a webcast on weight control and biking and they've posted
>> it on their website.
>>
>> http://www.terrybicycles.com/seminar.html
>>
>> I haven't watched it by my wife did. It was originally broadcast live
>> and they got so many more folks trying to log on than they'd planned for
>> that the server crashed.
>> Of course Terry's for girls so it would have little effect on what guys
>> want.
>>
>> David

>
> They make men's seats too... there is hope for the company!
>
> Bruce
>
>

Saddles, please!
 
"David B." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Bruce Gilbert wrote:
> > I read a book called "The New Wellness Revolution" which had a

> strong effect
> > on me. I now believe that in order for the bike business to really take

off
> > in this country, it has to be bound up with adult wellness somehow. Bike
> > shops are not projecting or reinforcing that image very well and neither

are
> > the bike manufacturers. How many bike company websites have a weight
> > loss/control program on their websites, or in the info packet?
> >
> > Bruce

>
> Terry just did a webcast on weight control and biking and they've posted
> it on their website.
>
> http://www.terrybicycles.com/seminar.html
>
> I haven't watched it by my wife did. It was originally broadcast live
> and they got so many more folks trying to log on than they'd planned for
> that the server crashed.
> Of course Terry's for girls so it would have little effect on what guys
> want.
>
> David


They make men's seats too... there is hope for the company!

Bruce
 
On Mar 16, 8:03 am, "Bruce Gilbert" <[email protected]> wrote:
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:b7c5223a-76d6-48f0-94fe-ae4f27bdad5a@s37g2000prg.googlegroups.com...> If Lance is smart he won't run the shop or hire a consultant. Racing
> > and running a bike shop are different realms. One big advantage that
> > Lance has is that he actually rides a bike. I was always amazed at how
> > few people in the bike industry ride a bike. Most people in the bike
> > business don't ride at all. Another problem is that there is far to
> > little interaction between bicycle racing and bike business.

>
> Most of the older folks in the bike business, who are the real players, are
> a bit older than the racing crowd. The same phenomenon is true for a large
> percentage of the people with the disposable income to buy the top end race
> bikes. I believe your comment about most people in the bike business don't
> ride is valid, to a degree. Most of us ride as much as they can. This exact
> observation was very much on my mind during the last Interbike. I would
> leave our booth to cruise the show and did observe how many wide-body
> participants were in the aisles and behind the tables.
>
> I read a book called "The New Wellness Revolution" which had a strong effect
> on me. I now believe that in order for the bike business to really take off
> in this country, it has to be bound up with adult wellness somehow. Bike
> shops are not projecting or reinforcing that image very well and neither are
> the bike manufacturers. How many bike company websites have a weight
> loss/control program on their websites, or in the info packet? I wonder if
> it is even practical in terms of liability, economics, etc.? Wouldn't it be
> interesting if cycling based weight-loss programs started showing up in bike
> shops. Race training information abounds in the bike world. Weight-loss and
> wellness would be broader based and have a more universal appeal. There are
> enough experts and good writers in this newsgroup alone, for a few folks to
> put their minds together in order to form an effective company. Anyone
> interested? If nothing else it would make a great marketing story...
>


One of the big challenges for cycling is to get more kids riding
again. Many kids don't ride their bikes to school because of traffic
and parents fear of crime. The ASO sponsored a TDF themed series of
cycling contests around France a few years back. This the sort of
thing the bike industry and the NBDA (national bicycle dealers
association) needs to get involved in. The would help with the
wellness issue you speak of.


> I did recently see that the LAB has formed some sort of relationship with
> AARP. Also, I have heard that there is a bike tour company somewhere that
> does bus tours for retirees. They seem to hit a lot of the organized rides
> around the country. That could be the start of low-cost wellness-oriented
> vacationing. Interesting idea...
>
> Bruce
 
[email protected] wrote:
> If Lance is smart he won't run the shop or hire a consultant. Racing
> and running a bike shop are different realms. One big advantage that
> Lance has is that he actually rides a bike. I was always amazed at how
> few people in the bike industry ride a bike. Most people in the bike
> business don't ride at all. Another problem is that there is far to
> little interaction between bicycle racing and bike business.
>

------------
I think it has to do the ass opposite,
.....distance itself from racing as much
as possible. For most people, including
myself, bike racing is a big turn-off.
I didn't really like the people, when I
was doing it myself. It's apples and
oranges, but if you want to try your
theory, open a bike shop that is
specific only to bike racing, and see
how many people come in. The average
guy, I'm guessing, that wants to buy a
bike, wants a little adventure, and to
stay fit and lose a little weight.
That's light years from the haughtiness,
and self absorption that bike racers
cling on to.
 
"Crescentius Vespasianus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I think it has to do the ass opposite, ....distance itself from racing as much as
> possible. For most people, including myself, bike racing is a big turn-off. I didn't
> really like the people, when I was doing it myself. It's apples and oranges, but if you
> want to try your theory, open a bike shop that is specific only to bike racing, and see
> how many people come in. The average guy, I'm guessing, that wants to buy a bike, wants
> a little adventure, and to stay fit and lose a little weight. That's light years from
> the haughtiness, and self absorption that bike racers cling on to.


OK, who let this FRED get in here?
 
In article <[email protected]>,
Crescentius Vespasianus <[email protected]> wrote:

> [email protected] wrote:
> > If Lance is smart he won't run the shop or hire a consultant. Racing
> > and running a bike shop are different realms. One big advantage that
> > Lance has is that he actually rides a bike. I was always amazed at how
> > few people in the bike industry ride a bike. Most people in the bike
> > business don't ride at all. Another problem is that there is far to
> > little interaction between bicycle racing and bike business.
> >

> ------------
> I think it has to do the ass opposite,
> ....distance itself from racing as much
> as possible. For most people, including
> myself, bike racing is a big turn-off.
> I didn't really like the people, when I
> was doing it myself.


You were doing it wrong.

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"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."
 
"Ryan Cousineau" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:rcousine-E01EAA.17463919032008@[74.223.185.199.nw.nuvox.net]...
> Crescentius Vespasianus <[email protected]> wrote:
>> ------------
>> I think it has to do the ass opposite,
>> ....distance itself from racing as much
>> as possible. For most people, including
>> myself, bike racing is a big turn-off.
>> I didn't really like the people, when I
>> was doing it myself.

>
> You were doing it wrong.


But he'll never understand how or why.
 
In article <[email protected]>,
"Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:

> "Ryan Cousineau" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:rcousine-E01EAA.17463919032008@[74.223.185.199.nw.nuvox.net]...
> > Crescentius Vespasianus <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> ------------
> >> I think it has to do the ass opposite,
> >> ....distance itself from racing as much
> >> as possible. For most people, including
> >> myself, bike racing is a big turn-off.
> >> I didn't really like the people, when I
> >> was doing it myself.

> >
> > You were doing it wrong.

>
> But he'll never understand how or why.


You were, too.

--
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"In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."
 
Ryan Cousineau wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Crescentius Vespasianus <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> [email protected] wrote:
>>> If Lance is smart he won't run the shop or hire a consultant. Racing
>>> and running a bike shop are different realms. One big advantage that
>>> Lance has is that he actually rides a bike. I was always amazed at how
>>> few people in the bike industry ride a bike. Most people in the bike
>>> business don't ride at all. Another problem is that there is far to
>>> little interaction between bicycle racing and bike business.
>>>

>> ------------
>> I think it has to do the ass opposite,
>> ....distance itself from racing as much
>> as possible. For most people, including
>> myself, bike racing is a big turn-off.
>> I didn't really like the people, when I
>> was doing it myself.

>
> You were doing it wrong.

----------
I should have done something like ski
jumping, at least there is a fan base in
that sport.
 
"Ryan Cousineau" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:rcousine-3FA8F8.18010119032008@[74.223.185.199.nw.nuvox.net]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
>
>> "Ryan Cousineau" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:rcousine-E01EAA.17463919032008@[74.223.185.199.nw.nuvox.net]...
>> > Crescentius Vespasianus <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> ------------
>> >> I think it has to do the ass opposite,
>> >> ....distance itself from racing as much
>> >> as possible. For most people, including
>> >> myself, bike racing is a big turn-off.
>> >> I didn't really like the people, when I
>> >> was doing it myself.
>> >
>> > You were doing it wrong.

>>
>> But he'll never understand how or why.

>
> You were, too.


And how was I doing it?
 
"Crescentius Vespasianus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>>> ------------
>>> I think it has to do the ass opposite, ....distance itself from racing
>>> as much as possible. For most people, including myself, bike racing is
>>> a big turn-off. I didn't really like the people, when I was doing it
>>> myself.

>>
>> You were doing it wrong.

> ----------
> I should have done something like ski jumping, at least there is a fan
> base in that sport.
>


If that's your priority...
 
In article <[email protected]>,
"Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:

> "Ryan Cousineau" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:rcousine-3FA8F8.18010119032008@[74.223.185.199.nw.nuvox.net]...
> > In article <[email protected]>,
> > "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
> >
> >> "Ryan Cousineau" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >> news:rcousine-E01EAA.17463919032008@[74.223.185.199.nw.nuvox.net]...
> >> > Crescentius Vespasianus <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >> ------------
> >> >> I think it has to do the ass opposite,
> >> >> ....distance itself from racing as much
> >> >> as possible. For most people, including
> >> >> myself, bike racing is a big turn-off.
> >> >> I didn't really like the people, when I
> >> >> was doing it myself.
> >> >
> >> > You were doing it wrong.
> >>
> >> But he'll never understand how or why.

> >
> > You were, too.

>
> And how was I doing it?


You never left Cat 5 and you declined to contest sprints. You should
have done time trials and stuck with it.

Even a personal best is sort of honourable.

At least you didn't ride in Harrison Hot Springs:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/rcousine/2336500893/

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"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."
 

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