Maybe Lance will countersue the UCI--for breach of contract. They didn't provide a competitive environment in which he felt he could compete without using dope like everyone else was.Originally Posted by danfoz .
Prize money is one thing. But I'm not sure how I feel about sponsors wanting their money back. It sounds a bit like eating your cake and having it too, after all haven't they already received the return on their investment by selling x number of sneakers, bikes, cellular accounts, etc.?
I presume commercial endorsement contracts contain a clause to the effect that if caught doping the contract is null and void and that any consideration under that contract has been earned by cheating?Originally Posted by danfoz .
Prize money is one thing. But I'm not sure how I feel about sponsors wanting their money back. It sounds a bit like eating your cake and having it too, after all haven't they already received the return on their investment by selling x number of sneakers, bikes, cellular accounts, etc.?
in some measure i agree. their sponsorship money did see a return in that his promotion garnered some sales for them. the question will always be the wording of the contract clause. if their deals were/are contingent on his assertion that he is not cheating, then they may have legal recourse to get their money back and keep the profits the past association generated which was based on his "clean" reputation. could get interesting.Originally Posted by danfoz .
Prize money is one thing. But I'm not sure how I feel about sponsors wanting their money back. It sounds a bit like eating your cake and having it too, after all haven't they already received the return on their investment by selling x number of sneakers, bikes, cellular accounts, etc.?
laughable. you have created a list of choices available to armstrong in which he could only choose to dope in order to compete. he might have chosen to ride clean. he might have chosen to speak out then and there about the doping in the sport. he might have chosen to do a good many other things in that situation. he did choose to hire ferrari, stick a needle in his flesh, and did his dead level best to keep his activities and associations as deeply in the dark as he could. i hope he decides to take on uci, if only for the entertainment of watching rats fighting rats.Originally Posted by jpr95 .
Maybe Lance will countersue the UCI--for breach of contract. They didn't provide a competitive environment in which he felt he could compete without using dope like everyone else was.
Steve, cyclists, as a lot, are morons. Mostly libtard morons. I reserve the Tactical Facepalm for serious breaches of safety and security. For responses to doping, doping allegations and dopes, the triple-facepalm is my preferred meme.Originally Posted by steve .
Serious? I'm thinking tactical; fans = idiots.
You didn't listen to McQuaid's interview this morning that I linkedOriginally Posted by CAMPYBOB .
Laugh, Lim! From saddle sore to sore asses, this entire sport is frackin' hysterical.
I mean, c'mon...where are you going to find a Three Stooges episode more moronic than a doctor...A DOCTOR!...going all C.I.A. and naming his clients after their...dogs? El Hijo de Rudicio...my sides hurt for a week after first reading the O.P.dope...er...information.
[COLOR= rgb(24, 24, 24)]At this point I will settle for Lance and Floyd getting trashed and beating the **** out of each other while a crowd of stoned Austin libtards try to break up the catfight.[/COLOR]
Glad you (almost) got the joke.Originally Posted by slovakguy .
laughable. you have created a list of choices available to armstrong in which he could only choose to dope in order to compete. he might have chosen to ride clean. he might have chosen to speak out then and there about the doping in the sport. he might have chosen to do a good many other things in that situation. he did choose to hire ferrari, stick a needle in his flesh, and did his dead level best to keep his activities and associations as deeply in the dark as he could. i hope he decides to take on uci, if only for the entertainment of watching rats fighting rats.
given your past defense of armstrong, constant use of the phrase witch-hunt, your tea-bagger comments, your belief in the existence of a liberal media/lamestream media, your thoughts that there is a conspiracy threatening the country via the justice department, your probable belief in the birther conspiracy and other items you've posted, one would find it difficult to think you have a sense of humour, except in that strange part of the comedic spectrum where colter and palin exist.Originally Posted by jpr95 .
Glad you (almost) got the joke.
BTW, e e cummings called. He wants his keyboard back.
I wish I could have Kimmage over for dinner.Originally Posted by limerickman .
As promised, Paul Kimmage 13 minute interview done yesterday with Today FM
http://media.todayfm.com/listenbacks/popup
(click in to podcasts - The Last Word Show with Matt Cooper - TDF strips Armstrong of his titles Paul Kimmage
interview).
It's probably the best interview yet in this mess.
Washing his hands of the Dauphine result was one aspect of this interview that is indicative of what McQuaids attitude is,Originally Posted by slovakguy .
several striking things in the mc quaid interview. first is how savvy he is politically. does a fine job at muddying the issues enough to make uci (past and present) seem to be vigilant above and beyond other federations in getting at doping and citing the reasons why they aren't effective at rooting out the doping.
what has me very confused is the steroid test. several times he mentions that the uci were not notified of it being a positive test and then goes on to defend the use of topical creams as being legal because the results analysis showed a corticosteroid of a type which wasn't injectable. i'm sure i didn't hear it clearly enough (would love a transcript of the interview), but it seems like pat knows about the test well enough to state that it was a topical cream.
good marks to the interviewer. he tended to keep on the question despite mc quaid's attempt to just deliver the uci line without becoming a grand inquisitor.
upshot is i still have no confidence in mc quaid as an administrator for the sport going forward.
A very telling bias.Originally Posted by lance_armstrong .
I've always been an Indurain fan, although I never thought he was beyond helping his TDF chances with a little help from the medicine cabinet.
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