"The Court noted during the August 10 hearing, this "charging document" is so vague and unhelpful it would not pass muster in any court in the United States. The Court is assured, however, that Armstrong will be given adequate notice of the specific allegations against him in a timely fashion prior to arbitration, and proceeds under the assumption this will actually occur.
Yes! What good would it be to have a Socialist nation.... if they/we had laws that applied to everyone. The USADA has shown the way forward into into a centralized enforcement of laws made up by [and for the benefit of] bureaucrats. Instead of by elected politicians that have to answer to the voting public.Originally Posted by jpr95 .
The mitigating factor should be that the USADA is a bunch of lunkheads who keep moving the bar and changing the rules long after the fact. It's like they imitated the legal systems in Cuba, Iran, North Korea, Venezuela and the like to fashion their modus operandi.
You are... of course... absolutely correct. And the "doping" infraction that he is now being accused of isn't even using "dope" in a true sense of the word. They "think" tests may have shown that his blood "may" have been reinforced with blood withdrawn at an earlier time..... ON TWO OCCASIONS. Even if we assume they are correct (without even a retest... like my own doctor would do on a disturbing test result)... they want to strip all titles... not just the two wins of the two contests? This is wrong. The sport needs to turn it's back on the USADA.Originally Posted by swampy1970 .
All we've really heard is lots of rumour - not one ounce of proof.
and truth be told, that summation with which you begin applies equally to armstrong's protests, except he and his agents are the sources for those rumours.Originally Posted by swampy1970 .
All we've really heard is lots of rumour - not one ounce of proof.
For me the whole current debacle can be summed up in two key phrases from probably the only impartial person that's actually seem any of the "evidence", US District Court Judge, Sam Sparks:
Who needs hard facts and proof when you have a whole decade of Internetz evidence! Say it enough, it seems, and it becomes fact.
Truth be told, the initial burden of proof is on USADA and the UCI. They have to bring forth facts and evidence that are indisputable. If those 'facts and evidence' can be disputed then there's no grounds for prosecution.Originally Posted by slovakguy .
and truth be told, that summation with which you begin applies equally to armstrong's protests, except he and his agents are the sources for those rumors.
Originally Posted by swampy1970 .
Truth be told, the initial burden of proof is on USADA and the UCI. They have to bring forth facts and evidence that are indisputable. If those 'facts and evidence' can be disputed then there's no grounds for prosecution.
As previously mentioned, the US District Judge stated that due to the lack of facts, there was no way that Armstrong could even begin to defend himself against the USADA.
So those that we trust to uphold the sport (UCI) and those that we trust to ensure that all sports have an equal and level playing field (WADA and its country subsidiaries) are allowed to stack the deck when presenting evidence to an athlete under suspicion and not present all the evidence? You really believe that? If that's the case we have either a Kangaroo court or a Witch Hunt. What'll it be?
It shouldn't matter who the athlete is, the same rules should apply to all, otherwise we don't have a fair and just system.
I didn't think he would walk away from this affair like he did.Originally Posted by Bro Deal .
“Pain is temporary. It may last a minute, or an hour, or a day, or a year, but eventually it will subside and something else will take its place. If I quit, however, it lasts forever.†-- Lance Armstrong
When faced with fighting the charges, LA quit. Have fun living forever with the label of greatest fraud in sports history, Lance.
Hope you useful idiots who defended this toolbag can come to grips with being part of the deception that allowed Armstrong to get away with if for so long. Way to go. He could not have done it without you.
He quit.Originally Posted by CAMPYBOB .
He's 40.
A man reaches an age where he realizes he could continue wasting his life on the ungrateful whiners.
He's already spent way too much time and money. Resources that could be better spent on curing cancer...procuring bimbettes...fathering more children to a few more wives and girlfriends...getting mellow...digging swimming holes to ******** his neighbors...inside jokes with Eddie over cigars...increasing the art collection...future White House dinners with President Romney...
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