Lance Armstrong Won't Fight Usada Charges



limerickman

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Originally Posted by tonyzackery .

http://velonews.competitor.com/2013/01/news/walsh-on-armstrong-landis-was-a-very-dangerous-enemy_270752

Yeah, I too thought the Godfather was too big to be toppled by nothing less than himself walking out of washroom with a needle still sticking out of his ****.
Ahh yes, if he would've just given up a small slice of the pie when Floyd was on the down-and-out, perhaps this whole ordeal could've been avoided delayed - by maybe a year or two...
Walsh's book more or less concludes that Landis intervention after he got busted, was the beginning of the end for Armstrong.

Landis put the entire matter out there for all to see and he was prepared to hold anything back in terms of what had gone on at Discovery/USPS.
 

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in anticipation of armstrong's appearance on oprah, i nicked this from a link found in the commentary of nyvelocity's "toto 230". should make for enjoyable viewing.

http://i.imgur.com/U0AUT.jpg
 

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well, the more one reads on this development...

good companion pieces in the guardian concerning the 10 questions oprah should ask and, the other, most likely will ask armstrong. highly recommend the latter, quite humourous.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/tv-and-radio/blog/2013/jan/09/ten-questions-oprah-winfrey-lance-armstrong
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2013/jan/09/ten-questions-oprah-wilfrey-lance-armstrong

and from velonews, an article which should make everyone see this interview for what it is, one hundred percent american-made hokum. the interview will be 90 minutes long including commercials, video recorded in his austin house, and edited for broadcast.
http://velonews.competitor.com/2013/01/news/millar-leery-of-stage-managed-armstrong-interview-with-winfrey_270837

i'm printing my bingo card.
 
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Lance is just being Lance. No one can't really be suprised at his chosen format for this 'tell-all', right? Very much par for his course, and all too predictable...
Like his Tour victories, so contrived and the outcome just a forgone conclusion. Things will change somewhat though when the Feds and European authorities get thrown into his 'tell-all' mix.
 

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slovakguy said:
in anticipation of armstrong's appearance on oprah, i nicked this from a link found in the commentary of nyvelocity's "toto 230".  should make for enjoyable viewing. http://i.imgur.com/U0AUT.jpg
It's missing one: "Things would have been completely different if I had two testicles."
 

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Originally Posted by jhuskey .

It all depends on how the media handles it. People are led so easily and believe what they want to believe. If they spin and sugar coat it the masses will eat it up like fine cuisine. BTW Slick Willie never had redemption with me.
Lance will be just fine because, as I pointed out earlier, he will continue to get 'glad-handed' by the professional (aka "paid") media in North America. For sure, Oprah won't be throwing any 'curve balls' at Lance - strictly 80mph 'fastballs' right over the plate. Bloggers, 'underground' journalists, European writers and pundits will continue to crucify him, but, and even more importantly, LA still has the significant potential to generate income on this continent, and as such he will not easily become pariah-esque like his contemporaries Barry Bonds, Marion Jones, or Ben Johnson. Mark McGwire and Roger Clemens are doing just fine, thank you. Probably not Hall of Fame material anymore, but they're able to still continue making a living in the sports that they cheated within.

If you stand to make people money, either with fame or infamy, people will ALWAYS be your friend and leave the welcome mat out for you. Politics and capitalism at its finest, and worst.
 

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Best thing that can come out of the interview is Lance dropping the UCI (esp. McQuaid and Verbruggen) in the ****. Most of the interview will be complete **** though.
 

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Originally Posted by tonyzackery .

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/cycling/2013/01/09/lance-armstrong-usada-doping-lifetime-ban/1820529/

Mid-December discussions of a confession with USADA? Smart man; not smart enough...
So he did meet with the USADA as late as December 2012 in the hope that some sort of confession would gain him re-admittance to competitive sport.

Very interesting.

USADA are coming out of this mess with it's reputation enhanced (cue derision from the Armstrong supporters)
 

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Betsy Andreu and a reporter are interviewed about Armstrong and the upcoming Oprah fluff piece: http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2013/01/10/ac-lance-armstrong-intimidation-claims.cnn Travis Tygart talks about Armstrong, donations, and the Lausanne link: http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/lau...armstrong-key-to-beating-epo-test-says-tygart Meanwhile, LiveStrong has re-imagined their campaign:
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The interview with Oprah is going to be funnier than seeing someone getting run over by a truck and squashed. I can't wait.
 

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one question i have is how will armstrong manage to do the crying bit? will he have had professional acting training from his pal mcconaughey with the whole think of something very emotionally painful? will he resort to mechanical means to induce physical pain? i figure it has to be the former, because he must be used to the feeling of jabbing a needle into his flesh by now.
 

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slovakguy said:
one question i have is how will armstrong manage to do the crying bit?  will he have had professional acting training from his pal mcconaughey with the whole think of something very emotionally painful?  will he resort to mechanical means to induce physical pain?  i figure it has to be the former, because he must be used to the feeling of jabbing a needle into his flesh by now.
I think he'll handle it exactly as well as he did acting in "Dodgeball", which is to say he'll think that he put on an amazing, heart rending display of contrition wrought with the pain of a crushed soul. Meanwhile, viewers will respond in the same they did to his performance in "Dodgeball", which is to say they'll think, "What the fΨck was that?"
 

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Originally Posted by slovakguy .

one question i have is how will armstrong manage to do the crying bit? will he have had professional acting training from his pal mcconaughey with the whole think of something very emotionally painful? will he resort to mechanical means to induce physical pain? i figure it has to be the former, because he must be used to the feeling of jabbing a needle into his flesh by now.
I'm beginning to think that Oprah makes people cry, and not always by touching their hearts (at least not while they're still in their ribcages).
 

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I have a feeling this is going to be a catastrophe.

I don't think enough time has passed for him to really face himself and from what I have read there has been no professional involvement (ie.counseling) to assist him in doing so. It took 30 some odd years to create his own illusion of himself, it is going to take longer than 3 months of self reflection for Lance to truly address his own character flaws with any authenticity.

I suspect he will come off saying "doping was part of the sport and he had to keep it all up to protect the foundation and help find a cure for cancer which I think is really going to hang him for not stepping up to his own issues. He might even go so far as to say "who cares if a silly bike race was compromised these are children, mothers, fathers dying of cancer we are trying to save"

I hope I am wrong and there are a lot of tears but I don't see it coming

This is going to be a battle royale of "integrity/truth" vs "death from cancer".

I'll take truth!
 

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Originally Posted by tonyzackery .



"I always tell the truth - even when I lie". Gold!
I think what is more relevant in this clip is " you need people like me so you can point your finger and say there's the bad guy, so what does that make you?"

Indeed, Gold!
 

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Originally Posted by jpwkeeper .

I'm beginning to think that Oprah makes people cry, and not always by touching their hearts (at least not while they're still in their ribcages).
Hmmm, this angle hadn't occurred to me - Lance victimized by the demonic Oprah. Intriguing storyline.
As it appears, this idea of deflecting criticism from Lance and onto Oprah is gaining more and more traction in several other cycling forums. Novel thought, and well played by Armstrong fans...
 

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