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Originally Posted by dhk2 .
Steve, that's funny, thanks for the laugh. Good thing Hinault isn't subject to our USADA, because based on those photos they'd likely decide he should be stripped of all titles for bullying.
Originally Posted by Eldrack .
...there still isn't any closure on this. People who thought he doped still think he doped. People who didn't think he doped still don't think he doped.
Very little LiveStrong money was ever channeled to cancer research. The mission was "awareness," whatever that meant. I'd read, though, that many LiveStrong employees and volunteers did good work helping individuals deal with the disease.Originally Posted by Dave Cutter .
The USADA is crushing competitive cycling. Lance will be fine... someone else will help sponsor cancer research. Any new cycling stars that hope to replace Lance as a spokes-person or representative... will very quickly be attacked by the USADA. It is the sport that will suffer.
The root issue is the failure of all sports to deal with all of this in the past 100+ years. Only the foolish are completely ignorant would put this solely on Lance...Originally Posted by limerickman .
I'm just listening to Paul Kimmage on Irish radio now.
PK is saying that the UCI's refusal to deal with this issue in 1999 is the root issue in all of this.
+1 [emphasis added]Originally Posted by JAPANic .
So they kept upping the bets, put all their chips on the table...called his bluffs for one last time and he folded.
But there are no winners...
Because there have been so many doping scandals over the years that the shock factor has worn off and I'm now, like many others it would seem, completely indifferent to any breaking news of another scandal. I've accepted that doping was, and still is to a lesser degree a part of the sport. As far as I'm concerned no athlete in any sport is above suspicion any longer. If anything cycling has been too stringent in catching and punishing those culprits, and as a result has destroyed it's image possibly beyond repair. Now I'm just tired of the revelations that are killing the sport I've loved for so many years, and this latest development could be a death blow.Originally Posted by slovakguy .
so, if armstrong's doping elicits a "big deal" from you, how is usada's action "dragging the sport through the gutter"?
To take your analogy a step further, suppose that mobster's crimes had been committed a long time ago. Also suppose he was now a reformed character who was much beloved by a large section of society, and who did much noble work for the benefit of others. I think in that situation there would be some people unhappy about the fact he is being punished after all this time, and that the punishment is now doing more harm than good. That's how I see the situation with Lance Armstrong. I'm not saying he should get away with everything if he had cheated, I just don't see what good it will do now.Originally Posted by slovakguy .
or these latest actions could result in the rebirth of the sport. one can never tell. having lived through all this **** brought on by the dopers, their facilitators and lax enforcement by the sporting authorities, i can say that i still find the sport to be as wonderful as my earliest fascination with it.
back to the point, you are in effect blaming the policeman for arresting the mobster and the court for throwing the mobster in jail.
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