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Karhu
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In 2008 Lance will be just 36... That's not too old to be a competetive cyclist, just look at world
champion Mario Cippolini.
champion Mario Cippolini.
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Drew Cutter
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Ed-D
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"Drew Cutter" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> He will need to "reload" his team with new talent if he want to win more tdf.
>
I'm going to go on record as predicting that Lance will absolutely not win anywhere near 10
tours in a row.
> He will need to "reload" his team with new talent if he want to win more tdf.
>
I'm going to go on record as predicting that Lance will absolutely not win anywhere near 10
tours in a row.
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Johannes Kracke
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On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 17:10:16 -0400, Drew Cutter <[email protected]> wrote:
>He will need to "reload" his team with new talent if he want to win more tdf.
Next year Postal will have Mayo and Ullrich going back to the car to bring him water.
>He will need to "reload" his team with new talent if he want to win more tdf.
Next year Postal will have Mayo and Ullrich going back to the car to bring him water.
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David Ryan
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Ed-D wrote:
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> "Drew Cutter" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> > He will need to "reload" his team with new talent if he want to win more tdf.
> >
>
> I'm going to go on record as predicting that Lance will absolutely not win anywhere near 10 tours
> in a row.
Candyass...
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> "Drew Cutter" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> > He will need to "reload" his team with new talent if he want to win more tdf.
> >
>
> I'm going to go on record as predicting that Lance will absolutely not win anywhere near 10 tours
> in a row.
Candyass...
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Kbh
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I don't understand people griping about USPS signing great riders. Can anyone point me to a document
that shows the payrolls of pro cycling teams? If USPS's is significantly greater than anyone elses's
you have a point. If its not, you have none. A Red Sox fan has a legitimate gripe about the Yankees
buying the best talent in baseball - their payroll dwarfs that of most other teams. But until
someone can prove to me that these great riders are riding for USPS for much more money than they
could elsewhere, I have to believe that they are simply thrilled to be part of a TDF winning
campaign, and you can't complain about that.
Kyle
"Johannes Krackencow" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 17:10:16 -0400, Drew Cutter <[email protected]> wrote:
> >He will need to "reload" his team with new talent if he want to win more tdf.
> Next year Postal will have Mayo and Ullrich going back to the car to bring him water.
that shows the payrolls of pro cycling teams? If USPS's is significantly greater than anyone elses's
you have a point. If its not, you have none. A Red Sox fan has a legitimate gripe about the Yankees
buying the best talent in baseball - their payroll dwarfs that of most other teams. But until
someone can prove to me that these great riders are riding for USPS for much more money than they
could elsewhere, I have to believe that they are simply thrilled to be part of a TDF winning
campaign, and you can't complain about that.
Kyle
"Johannes Krackencow" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 17:10:16 -0400, Drew Cutter <[email protected]> wrote:
> >He will need to "reload" his team with new talent if he want to win more tdf.
> Next year Postal will have Mayo and Ullrich going back to the car to bring him water.
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Warren
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In article <[email protected]>, KBH <[email protected]> wrote:
> I don't understand people griping about USPS signing great riders. ...I have to believe that they
> are simply thrilled to be part of a TDF winning campaign, and you can't complain about that.
Beltran and Pena must feel like the luckiest guys in the race.
-WG
> I don't understand people griping about USPS signing great riders. ...I have to believe that they
> are simply thrilled to be part of a TDF winning campaign, and you can't complain about that.
Beltran and Pena must feel like the luckiest guys in the race.
-WG
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Warren
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In article <[email protected]>, KBH <[email protected]> wrote:
> I don't understand people griping about USPS signing great riders. ...I have to believe that they
> are simply thrilled to be part of a TDF winning campaign, and you can't complain about that.
Beltran and Pena must feel like the luckiest guys in the race.
-WG
> I don't understand people griping about USPS signing great riders. ...I have to believe that they
> are simply thrilled to be part of a TDF winning campaign, and you can't complain about that.
Beltran and Pena must feel like the luckiest guys in the race.
-WG
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Peter Allen
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"KBH" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> I don't understand people griping about USPS signing great riders. Can anyone point me to a
> document that shows the payrolls of pro cycling teams? If USPS's is significantly greater than
> anyone elses's you have a point. If its not, you have none. A Red Sox fan has a legitimate gripe
> about the Yankees buying the best talent in baseball - their payroll dwarfs that of most other
> teams. But until someone can prove to me that these great riders are riding for USPS for much more
> money than they could elsewhere, I have to believe that they are simply thrilled to be part of a
> TDF winning campaign, and you can't complain about that.
Cyclingnews seems to think USPS has a budget about half again that of most other teams - see their
bit about Euskaltel team (which is run on a much smaller budget).
USPS does have a very good team, certainly - but probably not as good as ONCE's team last year,
especially in the mountains (and with Heras not anywhere near last year's form). There've been four
stages where Lance has really done well having his team this year: the TTT, of course, the stage to
Alpe d'Huez where Beltran's acceleration burnt off Ullrich (although that was mis-paced and a bit
lucky), and the two stages in the Pyrenees where USPS put someone high on GC in the breaks so other
teams had to do the chasing. Last year USPS had Rubiera and Heras pulling Lance most of the way up
all the climbs, dropping most of the contenders and stopping attacks from happening, leaving Lance a
relatively easy last attack to the finish.
The main problem with last year was that the second strongest guy in the race was Heras, who of
course wasn't allowed to compete.
Peter
news:<[email protected]>...
> I don't understand people griping about USPS signing great riders. Can anyone point me to a
> document that shows the payrolls of pro cycling teams? If USPS's is significantly greater than
> anyone elses's you have a point. If its not, you have none. A Red Sox fan has a legitimate gripe
> about the Yankees buying the best talent in baseball - their payroll dwarfs that of most other
> teams. But until someone can prove to me that these great riders are riding for USPS for much more
> money than they could elsewhere, I have to believe that they are simply thrilled to be part of a
> TDF winning campaign, and you can't complain about that.
Cyclingnews seems to think USPS has a budget about half again that of most other teams - see their
bit about Euskaltel team (which is run on a much smaller budget).
USPS does have a very good team, certainly - but probably not as good as ONCE's team last year,
especially in the mountains (and with Heras not anywhere near last year's form). There've been four
stages where Lance has really done well having his team this year: the TTT, of course, the stage to
Alpe d'Huez where Beltran's acceleration burnt off Ullrich (although that was mis-paced and a bit
lucky), and the two stages in the Pyrenees where USPS put someone high on GC in the breaks so other
teams had to do the chasing. Last year USPS had Rubiera and Heras pulling Lance most of the way up
all the climbs, dropping most of the contenders and stopping attacks from happening, leaving Lance a
relatively easy last attack to the finish.
The main problem with last year was that the second strongest guy in the race was Heras, who of
course wasn't allowed to compete.
Peter
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Bird
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On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 17:39:20 GMT, karhu <[email protected]> wrote:
>In 2008 Lance will be just 36... That's not too old to be a competetive cyclist, just look at world
>champion Mario Cippolini.
Chippolini is not a competetive cyclist. He's just a good sprinter, that's all.
Groet, Arne Vogel
>In 2008 Lance will be just 36... That's not too old to be a competetive cyclist, just look at world
>champion Mario Cippolini.
Chippolini is not a competetive cyclist. He's just a good sprinter, that's all.
Groet, Arne Vogel
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Smiles
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"Bird" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 17:39:20 GMT, karhu <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >In 2008 Lance will be just 36... That's not too old to be a competetive cyclist, just look at
> >world champion Mario Cippolini.
>
> Chippolini is not a competetive cyclist. He's just a good sprinter, that's all.
And therefore competitive at sprints ... so he IS a competitive cyclist;-)
Also is it my imagination but was competitive spelled wrong by both of the above posters??
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> On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 17:39:20 GMT, karhu <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >In 2008 Lance will be just 36... That's not too old to be a competetive cyclist, just look at
> >world champion Mario Cippolini.
>
> Chippolini is not a competetive cyclist. He's just a good sprinter, that's all.
And therefore competitive at sprints ... so he IS a competitive cyclist;-)
Also is it my imagination but was competitive spelled wrong by both of the above posters??
s http://boardnbike.com
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Bird
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On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 08:28:50 -0400, "smiles" <[email protected]> wrote:
>"Bird" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>> Chippolini is not a competetive cyclist. He's just a good sprinter, that's all.
>And therefore competitive at sprints ... so he IS a competitive cyclist;-)
I haven't seen him in Paris.
>Also is it my imagination but was competitive spelled wrong by both of the above posters??
Damn, you're right
Groet, Arne Vogel
>"Bird" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>> Chippolini is not a competetive cyclist. He's just a good sprinter, that's all.
>And therefore competitive at sprints ... so he IS a competitive cyclist;-)
I haven't seen him in Paris.
>Also is it my imagination but was competitive spelled wrong by both of the above posters??
Damn, you're right
Groet, Arne Vogel
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