Tom Kunich wrote:
> "Fred Fredburger" <[email protected]> wrote in
> message news:[email protected]...
>> Bill C wrote:
>>
>>> Gee, ya mean life isn't simple for rational beings?
>>
>> Rational is one thing. But it's unfashionable. Extreme positions are
>> in vogue this year. Much simpler, better sound bites.
>>
>>> That's why I laugh at Kyle's "Lets all love each other, hold hands,
>>> and sing Kumbaya." Great philosphy, wonderful goal, not really
>>> workable at any forseeable point in the near future given the nature
>>> of humans.
>>
>> Do you really see an end to homosexuality, abortion, adultry, etc? Why
>> is Republican Jesus easier to believe in than Kumbaya Jesus?
>>
>> Some choose to worry about the violence and suffering in the world and
>> go for Kumbaya Jesus; others decide to worry about faggots and
>> abortion. Why is one point of view any more laughable than the other?
>
> Hey Fred, name on socialist religious group that succeeded? Wow - the
> MORMONS. Now what is it about their religion that is difference from,
> say, the Shakers?
>
You're mixing religion and economics, but OK, I will play along. There
could be a point to that. You mention the Mormons. I'd add Bill's
"Kumbaya Christians" (I love that phrase). I've heard the American
Indians referred to as Socialists, they lasted for a while.
I'm not sure what you see as the difference, I just note that are all
about pursuing unattainable utopias. At least unattainable in an earthly
way.
Bill C wrote:
> On Nov 9, 1:16 am, Fred Fredburger
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Bill C wrote:
>>> Gee, ya mean life isn't simple for rational beings?
>> Rational is one thing. But it's unfashionable. Extreme positions are in
>> vogue this year. Much simpler, better sound bites.
>>
>>> That's why I laugh at Kyle's "Lets all love each other, hold hands,
>>> and sing Kumbaya." Great philosphy, wonderful goal, not really
>>> workable at any forseeable point in the near future given the nature
>>> of humans.
>> Do you really see an end to homosexuality, abortion, adultry, etc? Why
>> is Republican Jesus easier to believe in than Kumbaya Jesus?
>>
>> Some choose to worry about the violence and suffering in the world and
>> go for Kumbaya Jesus; others decide to worry about faggots and abortion.
>> Why is one point of view any more laughable than the other?
>
> They aren't. Both are ridiculous. The last thing the world needs is
> more excuses to abuse people, unfortunately religion has been used/
> misused that way forever.
>
> For a good read:
> http://tinyurl.com/249w64
>
> The Bad Popes (Sutton History Classics) (Paperback)
> by Russell Chamberlin (Author)
>
Maybe I'll pick that up this morning when I go to Borders. My education
in this is sorely lacking, mostly consisting of a few paragraphs from a
Kurt Vonnegut novel.
Bill C wrote:
> On Nov 9, 1:16 am, Fred Fredburger
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Bill C wrote:
>>> Gee, ya mean life isn't simple for rational beings?
>> Rational is one thing. But it's unfashionable. Extreme positions are in
>> vogue this year. Much simpler, better sound bites.
>>
>>> That's why I laugh at Kyle's "Lets all love each other, hold hands,
>>> and sing Kumbaya." Great philosphy, wonderful goal, not really
>>> workable at any forseeable point in the near future given the nature
>>> of humans.
>> Do you really see an end to homosexuality, abortion, adultry, etc? Why
>> is Republican Jesus easier to believe in than Kumbaya Jesus?
>>
>> Some choose to worry about the violence and suffering in the world and
>> go for Kumbaya Jesus; others decide to worry about faggots and abortion.
>> Why is one point of view any more laughable than the other?
>
> They aren't. Both are ridiculous. The last thing the world needs is
> more excuses to abuse people, unfortunately religion has been used/
> misused that way forever.
>
> For a good read:
> http://tinyurl.com/249w64
>
> The Bad Popes (Sutton History Classics) (Paperback)
> by Russell Chamberlin (Author)
>
Maybe I'll pick that up this morning when I go to Borders. My education
in this is sorely lacking, mostly consisting of a few paragraphs from a
Kurt Vonnegut novel.
Bill C wrote:
> On Nov 9, 1:16 am, Fred Fredburger
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Bill C wrote:
>>> Gee, ya mean life isn't simple for rational beings?
>> Rational is one thing. But it's unfashionable. Extreme positions are in
>> vogue this year. Much simpler, better sound bites.
>>
>>> That's why I laugh at Kyle's "Lets all love each other, hold hands,
>>> and sing Kumbaya." Great philosphy, wonderful goal, not really
>>> workable at any forseeable point in the near future given the nature
>>> of humans.
>> Do you really see an end to homosexuality, abortion, adultry, etc? Why
>> is Republican Jesus easier to believe in than Kumbaya Jesus?
>>
>> Some choose to worry about the violence and suffering in the world and
>> go for Kumbaya Jesus; others decide to worry about faggots and abortion.
>> Why is one point of view any more laughable than the other?
>
> They aren't. Both are ridiculous. The last thing the world needs is
> more excuses to abuse people, unfortunately religion has been used/
> misused that way forever.
>
> For a good read:
> http://tinyurl.com/249w64
>
> The Bad Popes (Sutton History Classics) (Paperback)
> by Russell Chamberlin (Author)
>
Maybe I'll pick that up this morning when I go to Borders. My education
in this is sorely lacking, mostly consisting of a few paragraphs from a
Kurt Vonnegut novel.
Tom Kunich wrote:
> "Bill C" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> If you feel there are scriptures, or any other
>> evidence that shows Christ himself in support of abortion, please
>> point me to them.
>
> As far as I've been able to make out, these guys think that because
> Christ didn't preach against something that couldn't occur, he was for it.
Or: if he didn't say something, you shouldn't say that he did.
Tom Kunich wrote:
> "Bill C" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> If you feel there are scriptures, or any other
>> evidence that shows Christ himself in support of abortion, please
>> point me to them.
>
> As far as I've been able to make out, these guys think that because
> Christ didn't preach against something that couldn't occur, he was for it.
Or: if he didn't say something, you shouldn't say that he did.
Tom Kunich wrote:
> "Bill C" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> If you feel there are scriptures, or any other
>> evidence that shows Christ himself in support of abortion, please
>> point me to them.
>
> As far as I've been able to make out, these guys think that because
> Christ didn't preach against something that couldn't occur, he was for it.
Or: if he didn't say something, you shouldn't say that he did.
"Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>
>> why I made the original "longhaired liberal" joke.
>
> I would have thought that you'd have known that Christ undoubtedly wore
> his hair short as was the custom in those days. There was a religious
> group of asthets that were called "Nasarines" or some such who wore their
> hair long and somehow because Jesus was born in Nasareth he was mistakenly
> portrayed with long hair by artists 800 years after his death.
>
>> There is currently a tendency among people who ought
>> to know better to replace Kumbaya Jesus with
>> 3-Star General Jesus. This is also a mistake.
>
> I see you haven't read the Bible either.
Umm, Jesus was born in Bethlehem and lived in Nazareth for most of his
youth.
"Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote in message
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> <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>
>> why I made the original "longhaired liberal" joke.
>
> I would have thought that you'd have known that Christ undoubtedly wore
> his hair short as was the custom in those days. There was a religious
> group of asthets that were called "Nasarines" or some such who wore their
> hair long and somehow because Jesus was born in Nasareth he was mistakenly
> portrayed with long hair by artists 800 years after his death.
>
>> There is currently a tendency among people who ought
>> to know better to replace Kumbaya Jesus with
>> 3-Star General Jesus. This is also a mistake.
>
> I see you haven't read the Bible either.
Umm, Jesus was born in Bethlehem and lived in Nazareth for most of his
youth.
"Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> why I made the original "longhaired liberal" joke.
>
> I would have thought that you'd have known that Christ undoubtedly wore
> his hair short as was the custom in those days. There was a religious
> group of asthets that were called "Nasarines" or some such who wore their
> hair long and somehow because Jesus was born in Nasareth he was mistakenly
> portrayed with long hair by artists 800 years after his death.
>
>> There is currently a tendency among people who ought
>> to know better to replace Kumbaya Jesus with
>> 3-Star General Jesus. This is also a mistake.
>
> I see you haven't read the Bible either.
Umm, Jesus was born in Bethlehem and lived in Nazareth for most of his
youth.
On Nov 10, 11:47 am, Fred Fredburger
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Bill C wrote:
> > On Nov 9, 1:16 am, Fred Fredburger
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> Bill C wrote:
> >>> Gee, ya mean life isn't simple for rational beings?
> >> Rational is one thing. But it's unfashionable. Extreme positions are in
> >> vogue this year. Much simpler, better sound bites.
>
> >>> That's why I laugh at Kyle's "Lets all love each other, hold hands,
> >>> and sing Kumbaya." Great philosphy, wonderful goal, not really
> >>> workable at any forseeable point in the near future given the nature
> >>> of humans.
> >> Do you really see an end to homosexuality, abortion, adultry, etc? Why
> >> is Republican Jesus easier to believe in than Kumbaya Jesus?
>
> >> Some choose to worry about the violence and suffering in the world and
> >> go for Kumbaya Jesus; others decide to worry about faggots and abortion.
> >> Why is one point of view any more laughable than the other?
>
> > They aren't. Both are ridiculous. The last thing the world needs is
> > more excuses to abuse people, unfortunately religion has been used/
> > misused that way forever.
>
> > For a good read:
> >http://tinyurl.com/249w64
>
> > The Bad Popes (Sutton History Classics) (Paperback)
> > by Russell Chamberlin (Author)
>
> Maybe I'll pick that up this morning when I go to Borders. My education
> in this is sorely lacking, mostly consisting of a few paragraphs from a
> Kurt Vonnegut novel.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Vonnegut was definitely more fun than parochial school and growing up
Catholic.
Bill C
